Grants talk:Programs/Wikimedia Community Fund/Rapid Fund/QA infrastructure and tools to fix problems on Wiktionary (ID: 22678255)

Endorsement from Vininn126 (talk)

1. Synchronization between children and parent languages is often overlooked, but is crucial for providing accurate information. The suggested methods would be effective in maintaining this synchronization. 2. This suggestion provides and implements good structure for maintaining the website. 5. Very.

--Vininn126 (talk) 21:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Follow-up questions

Hello @Tbm

Thank you for putting in a grant application. Related to question 17 and 20, could you provide more elaboration/ clearer link between what you hope to learn and whether the tools you have proposed will help to address that? We're also interested in understanding "more cooperation among the different Wiktionary communities could potentially look like". Would you be able to provide some examples?

Thank you.

Regards, Jacqueline JChen (WMF) (talk) 02:44, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

@JChen (WMF) Let me clarify:

1) More QA tools for Wiktionary: in addition to creating QA tools to fix certain issues on Wiktionary, this project will create infrastructure that makes it easier to make such fixes. Therefore, it's my hope that others will use this infrastructure to implement additional fixes. We can measure this by looking if anyone is using the Python module built in this project.

2) More cooperation between Wiktionary communities: currently there's very little cooperation between the different Wiktionary communities (see below). While the main focus of this project is on the English Wiktionary, I'd like to explore extending the tools to cover other Wiktionary editions. This work would make it easier to modify different Wiktionary projects using the same Python module. This could potentially lead to more information being shared. Also, I hope this work will show the community that more cooperation makes sense.

3) Prompt a discussion about moving some Wiktionary data to Wikidata: this is a long-term goal of mine, as common information could be stored on Wikidata and embedded in Wiktionary using Wikifunctions. I don't believe anyone in Wiktionary has done this.

I should some more things I'd like to learn:

4) What can we improve about the current structure of Wiktionary in order to avoid errors and make contributions easier?

I will fix common errors on Wiktionary as part of this proposal. I believe this work will lead to a better understanding of how the structure of Wiktionary itself could be improved to avoid or reduce such errors. This may also make it easier to contribute (as currently there's a steep learning curve).

5) Will making Wiktionary more consistent and reducing syntax errors make it easier to consume the data, therefore increasing usage of Wiktionary data?

6) What information could be shared across different Wiktionary editions?

As to what more cooperation among the different Wiktionary communities could potentially look like:

English Wiktionary defines words from (potentially) any language in English (so Malay to English, Swedish to English, etc). The Swedish Wiktionary defines words from (potentially) any language in Swedish (so Malay to Swedish, German to Swedish, etc). There are many different language editions of Wiktionary. At the moment, there is almost no cooperation between these different editions.

Yet, a lot of information is the same and could potentially be shared. This includes:

• Factual information about words, such a noun gender or noun class and noun plurals
• Images highlighting a word
• Audio for a word
• Links to Wikipedia

My believe is that (in the long run) this information should be moved to Wikidata and embedded in the different Wiktionary editions using Wikifunctions. This would ensure one common source for this information, which everyone can collaborate on. This project will contribution to this long-term vision by making it easier to consume Wiktionary data (by reducing syntax errors and other errors).

In the meantime, the contributors from the different Wiktionary editions could collaborate more on sharing such information. For example, if someone does research on what a noun gender or plural could be (sometimes it's not obvious), this information could be shared with others by adding the information there - instead of everyone doing their own thing (and duplicating work). By creating tools that can modify different Wiktionary editions, we make it easier to synchronize information. (Again, in the long-term we should avoid such duplication by migrating data to Wikidata or a similar database, but this is far off.)

Despite not speaking Swedish, Italian or Dutch, I made some improvements on Wiktionary for those language Wiktionaries for Swahili (fixing or adding some factual information). Here are some examples:

• Add audio: moja (Italian Wiktionary), mbili, isimu (Dutch Wiktionary), Uswidi (Swedish Wiktionary)
• Add noun class: mkate (Italian)
• Fix language of word: bibi (Italian)
• Add etymology: saini (Swedish), penseli (Swedish)
• Remove incorrect information: chai (Swedish)

Tbm (talk) 04:24, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Your grant application has been approved

Hello @Tbm

Thank you for taking time to respond to the additional questions/comments.

Congratulations! Your grant application has been approved in the amount of USD 5,000 from 16 July 2024 to 22 October 2024.

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Regards, Jacqueline JChen (WMF) (talk) 11:39, 28 June 2024 (UTC)