Interwiki synchronization/elementary-primary-comprehensive-school-education-etc

elementary-primary-comprehensive-school-education-etc

There are several starting point in various wikipedias, all having to do with elementary/basic/secondary/comprehensive/collaborative schools/schooling/learning/education.

They connect:

1. en:Comprehensive school
2. en:Elementary school
3. en:Gastropoda — (see #Group 2)
4. en:Gymnasium (school)
5. en:High school
6. en:Liceum ogólnokształcące — (see also #Group 1.A)
7. en:Lyceum — (see #Group 1)
8. en:Primary education
9. en:Primary school
10. en:Secondary education
11. en:Secondary education in France#Lycée
12. en:Slug — (see also #Group 2.B)

One of the problems apparently is that, school systems in different countries just do not compare. Likely, most school types apply to a much smaller set of countries (and thus likely, languages, too) than current interwiki links try to make us believe. --Purodha Blissenbach 21:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Group 1

Starting from en:Lyceum gives a clean group:

1. ca:Liceu (antiga Grècia)
2. cs:Lyceum
3. de:Lykeion
4. el:Λύκειο
5. en:Lyceum
6. eo:Liceo
7. es:Liceo
8. fr:Lycée
9. he:ליקיאון - Aristotle's school near Athens, est. 335 BCE
10. hu:Líceum
11. it:Liceo di Aristotele
12. ja:リュケイオン
13. nl:Lyceum
14. pl:Lykeion
15. pt:Liceu
16. ru:Лицей
17. sk:Lykeion
18. sr:Лицеј
19. sv:Lykeion
20. tr:Lykeion

thus cutting all links from the others to this group might be a helpful step. --Purodha Blissenbach 23:50, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Group 1.A

Starting from it:Liceo, things already get messy:

1. cs:Lyceum
2. de:Lyzeum ← not good: disambiguation. Links ignored.
   • de:Lykeion
3. el:Λύκειο
4. en:Lyceum
   • en:Liceum ogólnokształcące
5. fr:Lycée
6. he:ליקיאון - Aristotle's school near Athens, est. 335 BCE
7. hu:Lyceum → hu:Líceum
8. it:Liceo
   • it:Liceo di Aristotele
9. ja:リセ
   • ja:リュケイオン
10. pl:Liceum ogólnokształcące
    • pl:Lykeion
11. sr:Лицеј
12. sv:Lykeion
13. ca:Liceu (antiga Grècia)
14. eo:Liceo
15. es:Liceo
16. nl:Lyceum
17. pt:Liceu
18. ru:Лицей
19. sk:Lykeion
20. tr:Lykeion
21. uk:Середня загальноосвітня школа

Group 2

Starting from any of the following yields no problem links either:

1. ar:بطنيات القدم
2. bg:Коремоноги
3. bs:Puževi
4. ca:Gasteròpode
5. cs:Plži
6. da:Snegl
7. de:Schnecken
8. en:Gastropoda
9. eo:Gastropodo
10. es:Gastropoda
11. et:Teod
12. fa:شکم‌پایان
13. fi:Kotilot
14. fr:Gastropoda
15. he:חלזונות - Gastropoda
16. hr:Puževi
17. hu:Csigák
18. io:Gasteropodo
19. is:Sniglar
20. it:Gastropoda
21. ja:腹足綱
22. ka:მუცელფეხიანები
23. ko:복족류
24. la:Gastropoda
25. lt:Pilvakojai
26. lv:Gliemeži
27. mk:Полжав
28. nds-nl:Slekken
29. nl:Slakken
30. nn:Sniglar
31. no:Snegler
32. pl:Ślimaki
33. pt:Gastrópodes
34. qu:Wiksachaki
35. ru:Брюхоногие
36. simple:Gastropoda
37. sk:Ulitníky
38. sl:Polži
39. sq:Kërmilli
40. sr:Пужеви
41. sv:Snäckor
42. tr:Karından bacaklılar
43. uk:Черевоногі
44. zh:腹足纲

--Purodha Blissenbach 00:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Group 2.B

starting from en:Slug yields a duplicate each for almost all languages, and collects all members of the above #Group 2, too. --Purodha Blissenbach 00:39, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Discussion

I've uploaded an automatic analysis for this area, it's here. It is based on database snapshots from late August 2008.

At least three "bottlenecks" in the graph of meanings can be identified:

• en:High school (23) - en:School (18). Introduced by cs:High school ---> he:בית ספר, already corrected by a bot.
• en:Gymnasium (school) (52) - en:Högstadiet (3) - en:Primary education (39). Introduced by nn:Ungdomsskule ---> el:Γυμνάσιο, no:Ungdomsskole ---> el:Γυμνάσιο, and sv:Högstadium --~> fi:Peruskoulu (interwiki to a redirect to a section). Still present.
• en:Secondary education in France (51) - en:Slug (40). Apparently due to a homonym in Farsi. fa:لیسه is now a disambiguation page, and all incoming interwiki should be directed either to fa:لیسه (حلزون) (meaning 40) or fa:لیسه (مدرسه) (meaning 51). Note: I don't speak Farsi I only have a very limited understanding of the Arabic alphabet, this point is based on pictures, structure of links. It should be double-checked by a Farsi speaker. --Bolo1729 10:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you! --Purodha Blissenbach 21:43, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

removed from en:Secondary education in France and fr:Lycée en France, changed interwiki to fa:لیسه (حلزون) elswhere. Andreas 15:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Meaning 12

de:Klammeraffe ("@-sign") should be isolated. It is unrelated to en:slug (disambiguation). The link is caused by homonym hu:Csiga which means both "@" and "slug" as it appears to me. (Imho linking disambiguations other than literals (abbreviations, figures, codes) works usually only between related languages having very compatible sets of homonyms) --Purodha Blissenbach 21:43, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I removed the interwikis from these pages. Andreas 14:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)