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Latest comment: 1 year ago by DVrandecic (WMF) in topic Grammatical Framework

Grammatical Framework

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I read parts of the Preprint and I think I know now a bit more what Grammatical Framework is and how it works. I wish support for different concepts to generate Abstract Content. The biggest challenge is from my point of view the notation ob Abstract content. It is important that it is easy enough to notate it. There is no common easy notation this depends on the users preferences and so different concepts are from my point of view necessary to make it more propably that Wikifunctions and Abstract Wikipedia are not a colonial project or a project with a specific prepered concept how to present knowledge.

For the most cases Boilerplate templates are enough from my point of view. So I am not sure if all the time invested until now was necessary and if there will be enough use cases for advanced abstract texts within the Wikimedia Projects. The most Wikidata items contain only a small part of the content of the related article in bigger Wikipedia language Versions like English Wikipedia. I hope that there will be use cases for Abstract Text. I am interested in using Abstract Text for other cases outside the Wikimedia Projects.

I am interested in Abstract Literature and especially in generating Abstract Novels based on existing Novels in the public domain. This is a very advanced thing but I think it would be great if it is possible in the future. It could maybe help making old literature more accessible. So I think there are good reasons for investing into Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions although it will maybe be useful for other things as I expected at the announcement of the project. Hogü-456 (talk) 20:50, 25 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! I am a bit confused by your statements "boilerplate seems enough" and "Wikidata is only a small part of the content". That's the whole point of the abstract content! To go well beyond the statements in Wikidata. I wonder if that aspect is not clear enough yet? --DVrandecic (WMF) (talk) 19:08, 14 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Results from the experiments

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Link to source code: https://github.com/aarneranta/NLG-examples

Here are the student projects mentioned in the article, for discussion:

Discussion thread: https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/abstract-wikipedia@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/ISI63VCIIC2RQ5IUGLZOHZZY4UEX6ERR/ TuukkaH (talk) 23:51, 13 April 2023 (UTC)Reply