Talk:List of Wikipedias by language family/Archives/2005

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Wouldn't it make sense to open new sections for Language isolates such as Japanese, Korean and Basque and for Constructed languages such as Esperanto and Ido?

I agree. Having Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Esperanto, and Ido together is a strange combination.
I added new sections for various language isolates (separately) and constructed languages (together), and also for Sino-Tibetan, Austronesian and Indo-Aryan. It seems a bit strange having only one language under some headings, but I think Japanese, Korean, etc, should be counted separately. Chamdarae 07:18, 5 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Isn't Maltese a Semitic language? 62.56.224.133 16:51, 5 Jul 2005 (UTC)

I suggest 1,000 articles as the minimum number for a family / group of languages to get on this page. Chamdarae 01:20, 6 Jul 2005 (UTC)

It is a shame that unique families like the Uto-Aztecan have virtually no representation on Wikipedia. --ROY YOЯ 6 July 2005 19:58 (UTC)

the policy of the 1000 limit is somehow unfair. for example gothic (with 8 articles) seems to be counted just becouse it is a germanic language while we dont see mongolians here that have more than 200 articles.

my proposal:

  • let every language be here but not count (and not update) the languages that have less than 100 articles. this way it will be easier to update and it will inform more correctly about how many laguages are active in wikipedia and I see no cost. --Lucinos 10:24, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
OK.... I added all remaining wikipedias with at least one article to the "Other language families" section, and made some other small changes. --Chamdarae 01:29, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
very nice but you said nothing about my 100 articles proposal, I done it so you can visualize how it works --Lucinos 10:46, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

more than 2,000,000 articles

Just for the record: On July 10th 2005 there was a total of 2,029,238 articles in all wikipedias listed on this page.

percentages?

Could someone please explain what the percentages in section headers mean? And what the numbers in front of those percentages are for? 80.185.158.221 07:44, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

ok, this is my idea. I think that it is nice to demonstrate somehow in the headers how "large" a family is (not only the number of articles).

the first number is the total of articles of the wikis that are somehow active (the wikipedias that have more than 100 articles are counted) (this existed before, I just introdused the 100 limit).

the second number is thw number of wikipedias for example there are 20 wikipedias in the germanic languages.

the third number is the number of the "somehow active" wikipedias (more than 100 articles) for example I dont count gothic as it has very few artcles and for germanic languages we count 19.

the last number is a mesure of the "domination" of the first language for example I counted 1269747 articles in germanic languages. the first is english with 702419 articles so we have 702419/1269747 = 0.553 =55,3%

--Lucinos 06:49, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

I think percentages indicating the share of a group against all Wikipedia articles would be much more useful.--Nxx 13:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I believe that my original idea to show how important are the other languages was a really good one. --Lucinos 18:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

It would make much more sense to simply include the total number of articles for that language group, and then the percentage that language group contributes to the total of all Wikipedia articles. Also it's pointless to be too accurate, when statistics change continually. Thus, taking the total number of articles to be 10 785 337:(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias#Grand_Total)

Germanic languages (4,435,706 - 41.1%)

Romance languages (2,317,665 - 21.5%)

Slavic languages (1,447,000 - 13.4%)

Japanese (502,000 - 4.7%)

"Constructed languages" (271,021 - 2.5%)

Finno-Permic languages (223,600 - 2.1%)

Sinitic languages (177,092 - 1.6%)

Turkic languages (155,042 - 1.4%)


and so on

Altaic languages

We should unite Japanese, Mongolian and Korean into Altaic languages family.--213.135.64.212 00:13, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Japanese and Korean are not belong to Altaic languages. Even those two languages are uncertain to be one language family. 211.228.19.187