Talk:Massive open online course using Wikipedia

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Coursera is not free/open[edit]

As I am taking this course about OER, I'd like to underline that courses like the Coursera ones are just free, not open. In OER, openness is also about freely licensed course materials. Regards, --Elitre (talk) 15:28, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Elitre. Thanks for pointing this out. I'm aware of that and it's important to distinguish that. Actually, depending on the definition, Coursera is not open either, see the open definition. I think they have a good platform, but there is this problem because their content is not free/open. Best, --Ezalvarenga (talk) 17:10, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Actually what I meant is that they are not free also, thinking in the definition of free cultural works. They are free of charge, like in free beer, but not free as in freedom. --Tom (talk) 17:34, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Breaking news as an example[edit]

I think breaking news is a elucidative example on how could we work with a MOOC to improve articles. For those interested, please, read What Wikipedia can tell us about the future of news. --Ezalvarenga (talk) 14:00, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Risk: too many people editing at the same time[edit]

I do think we could use a etherpad as a test in such cases. I have already worked with 5 people in one document and it was extremely agile and productive. I am going to try this to a crowsourced translation on some articles and, after finihed the text, some person with more experience on Wikipedia syntax and rules, can wikify the results from the pad. --Ezalvarenga (talk) 18:45, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

P2PU : not a MOOC[edit]

P2PU does offers some of the features of massive open online courses, as wp say, but these are not MOOCs ! --Ofol (talk) 19:17, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Why? --Ezalvarenga (talk) 19:21, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi Ezalvarenga - that's what the wp article says, so if it must be corrected please do ! I guess it's about the current definition of a MOOC.. so what doesn't fit could be the "Massive", or the fact that p2pU is not necessarily about "Courses". --Ofol (talk) 19:52, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Ofol. I will look carefully for the definition on the English Wikipedia article later and check what it says about P2PU. Since I think courses on P2PU can be massive (lots of students), open (free licensed content) and online, I thought it could be defined as a MOOC. Thanks for the observation. --Ezalvarenga (talk) 01:17, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Role of wikiversity?[edit]

For me the Dutch wikiversity project is one big online course. Since this year we are experimenting with virtual communities (we call them 'learning circles'). We use social media (LinkedIn, Google+) to discuss, collaborate, etc. I think this form of learning (learning by doing, learning by making your questions, beliefs, etc. explicit) is a very powerfull way of learning. In my opion wikimedia should not promote the encyclopedia (i.e. Wikipedia), but instead we should promote the learning platform (wikiversity). Timboliu (talk) 10:04, 29 August 2013 (UTC)