Talk:Wiktionary Cognate Dashboard

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Usefulness and scope[edit]

The presentation sounded very promising at first, but in reality I found many features less useful. Lately I have worked in the Swedish Wiktionary, adding words from Russian. I am proud that Swedish Wiktionary now has more than 6000 words in Russian but sorry that it has less than 500 in Chinese. However, the Cognate Dashboard shows that Swedish-Chinese are about as interconnected as Swedish-Russian, both pairs having around 75,000 links. This is of course due to the common share of English (and French) words, but not due to our efforts in adding Russian or Chinese words. Most of the presented statistics only reflect the fact that English, Malagasian and French Wiktionaries are very large and contain many English words. There is little difference between the medium-sized Wiktionary sites, such as Swedish and Russian.

The one feature that was immediately really useful was the "I miss you" tab. It gives me a list of very common words that were missing from Swedish Wiktionary, that I could add. How often is that list updated? Daily? Monthly? The words have not disappeared since I created the entries, a few hours ago.

An improvement that I would like to see, is to count not only pages, but entries. Swedish Wiktionary has a page "kilogram", but it doesn't contain an entry for the Danish word "kilogram". How many of the 41 Wiktionaries that have a page for "kilogram" have an entry for the Swedish word and for the Danish word? That would be interesting to know. --LA2 (talk) 19:27, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

@LA2: Hello,
  1. I Miss You is the really greatest part of this tool. it has some limitations but it show the missed words by projects
  2. The tool is refreshed every 6 hours. Anyway there’is a delay between the time written on the homepage and the result publication, maybe due to the treatment of data.
  3. WCD is based on Cognate and Cognate only link pages of all Wix projects. Entries is another stuff. Anyway, the best place to ask improvements reminds phabricator I think. Otourly (talk) 16:57, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
  4. Another interresting tool is Compare. Using this, if you choose russian Wix vs swedish one, you wiil get the ful list of missing pages of your project. Then you can extract only cyrillic words manually… Of course some will not be russian by another language using cyrillic alphabet too (it’s also possible for you, manually again, sadly, to reduce the list with the caracters witch aren’t used in Russian). But it could give you a good start. Otourly (talk) 17:06, 28 August 2018 (UTC)