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| description | "video in Introduction to Partnership Building (computer-graded exercises) - Basics of partnership building for Wikimedia volunteers, with computer-graded exercises." |
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| label | "WikiLearn - Introduction to Partnership Building (computer-graded exercises) - video: Questions and answers about informing the community" |
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| display_name | "Questions and answers about informing the community" |
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| subtitle-90-6900-1 | "To pause here and ask if you have any questions about the difference here, or has" |
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| subtitle-6900-11400-2 | "everyone understood or heard or felt the difference in approach here?" |
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| subtitle-13280-15920-3 | "And now I see that there's a question here from [someone]." |
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| subtitle-16460-20240-4 | ""Isn't there the possibility of the consultation jeopardizing the prospective" |
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| subtitle-20240-25580-5 | "partnership? If you do this in advance, like the partner or a news outlet might stumble" |
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| subtitle-25580-33200-6 | "upon a village pump discussion page before we even approach the partner." Yes, that is" |
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| subtitle-33200-34700-7 | "certainly possible." |
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| subtitle-36980-42230-8 | "Certainly don't discuss sensitive matters in public." |
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| subtitle-43220-46190-9 | "Don't embarrass the partner, or the potential partner." |
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| subtitle-46280-52370-10 | "And if you think that that's likely to happen, if you think that when you mention" |
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| subtitle-52940-60650-11 | "this prospective partner, maybe it's a partner, say, whose previous management was" |
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| subtitle-60650-62180-12 | "involved in some scandals." |
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| subtitle-62570-63860-13 | "The previous management." |
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| subtitle-64370-67970-14 | "But, you know, the first thing that people will think of would be those famous scandals" |
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| subtitle-67970-72050-15 | "from the past. And that might distract people and create an ugly discussion." |
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| subtitle-72050-73460-16 | "So you can head it off." |
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| subtitle-73670-80510-17 | "You can, when you say we are considering partnering with Y, you can mention, "yes, we" |
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| subtitle-80510-83150-18 | "know about past scandals, but they're under new management." |
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| subtitle-83150-89150-19 | "Please, let's keep this to the point, and not discuss the scandal", or something like" |
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| subtitle-89150-94880-20 | "that. You can try to head off the obvious difficulty and also remind people, literally" |
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| subtitle-94880-99350-21 | "remind people, because people who are so used to on-wiki discussions sometimes forget" |
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| subtitle-99350-103670-22 | "that it's public, sometimes forget that the people they are discussing could read this." |
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| subtitle-103790-108200-23 | "So you can, you can just politely remind people and say, "Hey, whatever your opinion" |
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| subtitle-108200-113720-24 | "about this, let's all be civil and and stick to the facts", something like that." |
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| subtitle-113930-117860-25 | "Is it a guarantee that they wouldn't write something that would embarrass or offend the" |
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| subtitle-117860-120110-26 | "partner? No, it is not a guarantee." |
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| subtitle-120110-124820-27 | "But I think asking people politely and reminding them gently can go a long way." |
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| subtitle-125760-130980-28 | "But yes, there is a chance that the partner would discover or someone would even send the" |
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| subtitle-130980-135360-29 | "link to the partner, and they would read the discussion about themselves as a prospective" |
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| subtitle-135360-140610-30 | "partner. And in that discussion, by the way, it is important that you, the user group, the" |
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| subtitle-140610-145110-31 | "chapter, the person who is actually going to approach them with a partnership, at least" |
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| subtitle-145110-149580-32 | "that you conducted yourself in a civil and calm manner." |
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| subtitle-149580-153240-33 | "Because then even if the partner reads it and takes offense or something, you can" |
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| subtitle-153240-157590-34 | "explain, "well, yeah, you know, we have public discourse on Wikipedia, and we have" |
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| subtitle-157590-161550-35 | "all kinds of people, and some of them are less mature, and some of them are more" |
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| subtitle-161550-166350-36 | "outspoken and less polite." |
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| subtitle-166350-172710-37 | "And yeah, I wish that conversation had turned out differently, or that people didn't" |
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| subtitle-172710-177390-38 | "say such things. But as you can see, other people responded, myself included, and we are" |
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| subtitle-177390-180930-39 | "actually interested in partnering with you!" I mean, you know, you can talk your way out" |
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| subtitle-180930-183900-40 | "of it by really going back to the wiki norms." |
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| subtitle-184800-190710-41 | "Saying, "you know what, this unpleasantness is the price we pay for the benefits that we" |
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| subtitle-190710-195840-42 | "get from public discussion, from transparency." I mean, you can you can" |
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| subtitle-195840-201270-43 | "literally turn it into a teaching moment about the virtues of Wikipedia, and how that" |
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| subtitle-201270-206040-44 | "sometimes comes with a little bit of a price, in potential unpleasantness." |
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| subtitle-206040-208560-45 | "So this was my answer to [someone]." |
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| subtitle-209760-214620-46 | "[someone else] asks, "Is the village pump the only place to announce?" No." |
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| subtitle-214680-216840-47 | "I specifically mentioned the WikiProject pages." |
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| subtitle-217680-225270-48 | "Didn't I? the WikiProject for a country, or the WikiProject for a topic, a theme, are" |
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| subtitle-225270-226290-49 | "definitely relevant." |
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| subtitle-226290-231540-50 | "Even if you did post in the village pump, you should probably also post in any relevant" |
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| subtitle-231540-237900-51 | "group. It can be a mailing list, it can be a Facebook group but never ever post only on" |
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| subtitle-237900-242410-52 | "Facebook, leaving the on-wiki contributors in the dark." |
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| subtitle-242410-246660-53 | "Again, people don't like to be surprised, and people don't like this feeling that here" |
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| subtitle-246660-252090-54 | "on-wiki nobody said anything, but out there in a smoke-filled Telegram channel, they were" |
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| subtitle-252090-253260-55 | "making plans." |
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| subtitle-253260-254610-56 | "People don't like that feeling." |
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| subtitle-255960-260570-57 | "There's another question: "Isn't there a possibility of another wiki group in the same" |
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| subtitle-260570-264230-58 | "locality in which you operate, rather than reaching out to you for possible" |
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| subtitle-264230-270980-59 | "collaboration, go ahead and reach your potential partner before you do?" Yes, I" |
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| subtitle-270980-273290-60 | "suppose that is possible." |
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| subtitle-273290-279950-61 | "If that is the situation in your region, where there is this kind of uncollegial" |
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| subtitle-279950-286370-62 | "competition between groups, then I guess you would need to think twice before discussing" |
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| subtitle-286370-292670-63 | "it publicly. And maybe you want to inform the community not when you have the idea, but" |
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| subtitle-292670-296990-64 | "when you've already had some conversations with the partner; not the full pitch, not the" |
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| subtitle-296990-301910-65 | "decision, but when you've already created some kind of relationship with the partner." |
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| subtitle-303430-309280-66 | "But I will say that it saddens me to hear that that's a concern for you." |
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| subtitle-309670-318070-67 | "I really think Wikimedia groups should not behave that way to to each other." |
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