Wikimedia Conference 2017/ESEA Meeting
2017-03-31
[edit]East and South East Asia + Australia meetup
2017-03-31, Wikimedia Conference in Berlin
https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wmcon17esea
Participants
[edit]- Erick Guan
- Addis Wang
- Yusuke
- Ks aka 98
- Liang-chih Shang Kuan
- Aaron Huang
- Dody Ismoyo
- Venus Lui
- Robert Myers
- Taweetham Limpanuparb
- Athikhun Suwannakhan
- Biyanto Rebin
- Kartika Sari Rebin
(The names of a couple more people present there might be missing here...)
Introduction on regional status of each community
[edit]China user group
[edit]- User group since 2014
- This structure gets less government restriction than a legal entity
- Chinese Wikipedia is the main target, involving mainland Chinese
Wikimedia Taiwan (WMTW) chapter
[edit]- speaker: Aaron
- Chapter since 2007, hosted one of the two Wikimanias in Asia, then exhausted; revived in 2011
- Focused to zh-TW Wikipedia
- Translation project of medical contents, recently a talk by James Heilman; getting attention from government bureau
Discussion
- Dody Ismoyo writes a lot about Taiwan in English Wikipedia. But he found out the translation of the Chinese geographical names is confusing.
- Liang reply it's rather a complicated question, maybe in the future we can use the conversion system between zh-TW and zh-CN to English Wikipedia?
PhWiKi community
[edit]- Officilal user group since June 2015, local community since 2012
- Focused to BCL.wikipedia.org and Incubator projects of some languages in Philippines (BTO)
- Editathon, Wiki Takes City, TV station, collaborating with other communities. Textbook uses Wikipedia contents.
- Challenges: new editor recruitment and following up events; most of the above has time gaps, one year in between.
Japanese Community
[edit]- Tokyo Community (Tokyo User Group)
- Large online community and small offline community (One of top 10 wikipedia in terms of number of users). None of the Wikipedia Japan usergroups is being recorgnised by the WMF.
- Tokyo user group has 5-6 members
- Wikipedia Town is one of the most prominent (editathon series) --> Go around the town, taking pictures, and go back to library to edit.
- Main concern : sustainability of the projects because it heavily depends on the library.
- 2009 and 2013 : Country-wide Wikimedia conference
- WMAU has many GLAM collaborations and one of the way is by making librarian as a Wikipedian.
S. Korean community
[edit]- Eun-Ae Gu - director of the South Korea Wikimedia user group
- Local community started in 2008 after Jimmy Wales gave talk in S Korea
- Focused to Korean Wikipedia (English and other languages are not widely spoken in S. Korea)
- Recent attention to AI lead to interest to Wikidata and Wikipedia. (because of AlphaGo)
- Local companies get interested in the use of Wikidata and Wikipedia for AI
- Software development in AI in S. Korea is acitve
- Challenge - Competing online commercial encyclopedia (Daum) is more popular than Wikipedia
- Awareness to the Wikimedia projects and Creative Commons is an issue
- (Plans to ?)collaborate with with government, but fears censorship
Community in Malaysia
[edit]- Dody Ismoyo - personally created 1600+ articles
- An early stage community - no organization existing (user group or chpapter)
- Probably the first meeting was in 2015 on Skype, first in-person one was in May 2016.
- Main focus is en.wikipedia and ms.wikipedia
- ms.wikipedia has little quality standards yet; trying to establish policies
- No other patrollers from the region who monitor project
Discussion
- Q - how many readers does ms.wikipedia have? You might need to select and allocate limite resources to where most cost-effective. A - Seeking to make it a more reliable project and then readers will follow. Cautious against simply following readers interest. (e.g. only paying attention to breaking news and celebrities)
Wikimedia Indonesia (WMID) chapter
[edit]- establishedin 2007-2008
- 2 languages
- many ongoing digitization projects involving museums; libraries and magazines
- challenges: overwhelmed by too many projects; funding and staff spread thinly
- monthly wiki training; Google training
Discussion Q - when translating articles between languages, Indonesian naming of certain places can be confusing - transliteration doesn't seem to be standardized. (e.g. Kalimantan) A. diversity
Wikimedia Australia (WMAU) chapter
[edit]- established in 2007-2008
- Wiki Loves Monuments
- Supporting 300+ indigenous languages in the country
- Katherine Maher is coming for Knowledge Week to Melbourne
- Challenges: similar to Japan; branching to user groups in different parts of Australia under one chapter8
- This may be a better transition than splitting into multiple chapters though.
Discussion
- Q Government partnerships? - They are quiet but all right. Trying to work with them
- Q Wikimedian organization in New Zealand? - Long time not heard. Due to Government regulation, WMAU cannot be involved.
Wikimedians in Thailand Usergroup (WMTH)
[edit]- Wiki Loves monuments, Wiki loves Earth, and (possibly) science photo competition
- Taweetham - organizing lectures with Wikipedia assignments
- Government intervention is an issue - asked to revise articles in 2006
- Wiki Loves Monuments
- Education program for survivors
- Athikhun - started involved after Taweetham's class in 2015, now working as campus voluteer for the education program, monotoring student's contribution
- Working on so called "academic success" of Wikipedia, research projects, e.g., students' outcomes from the education program, suitability of Wikipedia articles for medical education
- Seeking collaborations with experts/specialists to evaluate and improve the content of Wikipedia articles
- Seeking new partnerships with local organizations
- Challenges - relationships with government; needs to keep distance and good relationships at the same time. Contacted by Ministry of Digital Economy and Society
General comments and feedback on the intro
[edit]- Asia does a lot of things but is quiet about it; should talk about it like Europe does
- Immigrants between countries in the region; they can be a catalyst for international collaboration in the region
- Should seek an ASEAN-wide collaboration similar to Europe and Ibercoop
- Maybe Asia's regional usergroup? Doesn't have to have recognition from AffCom
ESEA regional meeting (2018)
[edit]- Why? To break barriers of cultures and languages, and then to learn from each other
- Mostly invitational
- WMID is preparing to be the host; plan is to hold it in Feb 2018
- We need to form a core committee
- Planning to form (sub)committees - logistics, registration, scholarships, program design
- Topics of the program- learning, capacity building, collaboration (e.g. WIkipedia Asian Month, membership swaps)
Discussion
[edit]- Is it going to be like Wikimania or WMCON? Invitation only?
- Focused to capacity building and learning about each other's organization; building a new community leader
2017-04-02
[edit]participants:
- WMID: Biyanto
- WMTW: Liang & Aaron
- WMAU
- PHWiki irvin & ramon
- China User Group
- Japanese community
- (Thailand)
- (Malaysia)
- (WMF)
Agenda:
- Wikipedia Asian Month
- Introduction of Google Non-profit - free GMail/Google Drive accounts for nonprofits - (G Suite, formerly called Google Apps)
- techsoup.asia : used by Korea, Indonesia
- Communication
- Difference between newsletter from social media
- Ask help from Ed Erhart
- Conference
Newsletter, communication
- Why newsletter? What's the popular communication channel?
- Keeping writing a Newsletter (long-form content) was heavy load to volunteers
- Social media updates are already done in many communities
- Taiwan: https://www.facebook.com/WSOTK
- Malaysia: https://enwp.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Malaysia https://www.facebook.com/groups/ms.wiki/
- Japan: active Twitter and Facebook communities exist with different audience
- Icon!!
- Liang and Biyanto will make the Social Media first (FB and Twitter)
- Rotation: The admin will be from each country and there is an admin who will be responsible to ask the community and to post every month
- Level 1: Wikipedia facebook A photo with 3 sentences (WAM & regional meeting)
- Level 2: (learning pattern) lesson learned, reflection (endorsement)
- Level 3: Event report on Wikimedia blog - Translation to all asian-pacific languages
AU: 2009 they have newsletter, but no human resource to continue. GLAM newsletter / Education Newsletter
Another blog post for call for participation to the event?
- JA: for the call for participation, it might be better to use mailing lists and maybe CentralNotice. leave the Wikimedia blog for the post-event report
Conference
- Comittee commnication channel -
- committee mailing list - 2 weeks later we set up
- telegram & facebook, irc channel -
- for work flow - phabricator.wikimedia.org
- example to follow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2286/
Round 3 2017 schedule https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Conference (Open call: 5 September – 1 October, see the link for more)