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Wikivoyage holds monthly summits, where ambassadors from each language version can come together to report and discuss interesting news in their communities with the broader Wikivoyage community. The goal is to promote interlingual coordination and cooperation, and to more generally foster a spirit of cross-wiki community and shared endeavor.

Reports should include information such as major accomplishments, features being developed or implemented, features being discussed, technical issues, events, and examples of exceptional work being done.

March 2014[edit]



I was busy with template programming. Besides improving the documentation of all templates we have rewritten some important templates in Lua. Some of them pick their icontent from Wikidata. These templates are new:

  • Five templates provide different content depending on: Season(2 or five seasons per year ), month, or e specific period of time given by day and month. So we can provide e.g. automatically changing images (summer and winter photos in the infobox) or changing prices in high and low season or special travel alerts one month before big events (Wacken festival, CSD ) or whatever...
  • We have rewritten all infobox (quickbar) templates. Some can fetch the information directly from Wikidata. You can see an example on the Malaysian province of Kedah. Location map and flag comes from Wikidata as well. Information from Wikidata are marked with a small sign. Contributors can use the old templates. They work as they always did. If you use a template parameter without a value, the template will look at Wikidata and fetch the information form there. If you use the value in the template, the local information always win. If you dont use the parameter, nothing happens. So u can start with the empty quickbar template, just prewritten with parameters, when you start an article and you will see, what Wikidata provides already. -- DerFussi 13:39, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
Stefan, could you give us an example? Kedah seems to be using a standard, old-fashioned template. In particular, I am wondering if you have a Lua module that will properly read the number for population from Wikidata. --Alexander (talk) 00:12, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
How do you think the template ist standard and old-fashioned? Move your mouse over the entries and you will see what information comes from WD. The population is quite new. Numbers haven't been available form the beginning on Wikidata. Going to add it. The province infobox uses Lua-templates. Check all the quickbar templates used in the Malaysian province template. The template quickbar item fetches its content from Wikidata, if no value is porovided. -- DerFussi 07:31, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
The number of population can be fetched from WD. See Sabah. -- DerFussi 11:40, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! One major difficulty is that many language versions have been using the simple {{#property: syntax to retrieve information from Wikidata. You basically started from scratch and prepared a huge Lua module. Its integration into other wikis may not be straight-forward, but we have to do it... --Alexander (talk) 10:44, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
The simple {{#property: syntax is not very useful. There is no chance to format the fetched data (Thousand periods, wiki markup, image markup...). And on the other hand you can overwrite the WD-info. The local article always wins. Information is taken from WD only if there is a parameter used in a template but left empty. |capital= takes the name of the capital from WD, |capital=Berlin outputs just "Berlin" and ingnores Wikidata. The submodul Modul:Quickbar/Wikidata shows what quickbar template parameter is connected to what propery and how it should be formatted. The modul can be adapted to other languages if needed. -- DerFussi 09:14, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Credit source[edit]

You could notice that every page imported from WT had recently got a new footer with credits to the authors from WT, and there is a red link to the history page, because some not very smart person forgot to check the content of this footer. The text is stored in MediaWiki:Creditssource-credits, you can change it at your discretion and correct or even remove the red link, because it is not very clear what legal requirements are. --Alexander (talk) 00:34, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Which language version are you talking about? And I don't think it's fair to call one of your fellow contributors "not very smart". LtPowers (talk) 16:08, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
I am talking about every language version, because this change was applied to all. This unknown fellow contributor is not very smart indeed because he/she tried to repair something that is not broken without even asking whether we want this or not. --Alexander (talk) 20:47, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
The footer used to be correct. Nobody has touched it. I think somebody at WMF technical stuff touched it. -- DerFussi 07:24, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
I haven't seen any problems. Maybe before we start tossing around wild accusations, we can calm down and discuss this rationally... starting with precise details about the problem, possibly including screenshots or at least links. LtPowers (talk) 17:44, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Yes, you just go to this page and check the footer, so that I don't spend more time on people who defend the destructive activity of incompetent technical staff. --Alexander (talk) 20:09, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
That problem appears to be unique to the Dutch Wikivoyage; English is not similarly afflicted. You should be able to fix it by editing voy:nl:MediaWiki:Creditssource-credits. LtPowers (talk) 21:59, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
I noticed this issue on de some time ago. What do I need to change in voy:de:MediaWiki:Creditssource-credits? --Timmaexx (talk) 17:08, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes, you should edit this page. I am not sure how to fix the link to the article history, though. Try "[$5 Versionsgeschichte]", or remove this link completely, and feel free to modify the whole attribution message, because nobody seems to know how it should be phrased. --Alexander (talk) 19:33, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Please substitute [[$5|geschiedenispagina]] by [{{SERVER}}$5 geschiedenispagina]. --RolandUnger (talk) 16:56, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

April 2014[edit]


Hey everyone. I apologize for my long absence from wv Summit. I was travelling for one month and more. I noticed that el wv had no grown during my absence. Contents remain poor and no pages match our manual of style. In order to fix layout problems I previously tried to introduce voy:en:Wikivoyage:Article templates in the Greek version. At the same time I was working on dynamic maps with one of ours favourite experts, Joachim. I hope I get his help again, soon. I confirm my involvement to the project as I did long time ago (Please find a link here). The good news is that user Glorius 93 announced at lounge his intention to get administrator duties after his resignation one year ago. Shall I submit application for short terms administrator? Please let me know your ideas about. Greek wv is very weak. The lack of a teamwork is a substantial concern. Me and user Glorius 93 are the only ones doing all the work. Thanks in advance for your feedbacks on the "Cinderella" of Wikivoyage --Gobbler (talk) 21:13, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi! The lack of editors is a persistent problem for all language branches of Wikivoyage, and, let's be honest, nobody knows the solution. Some possible strategies are as follows: i) link all Wikivoyage articles from Greek Wikipedia; ii) contact regional Wikimedia chapter and see if they are interested in developing Greek Wikivoyage; iii) advertise Wikivoyage on traveler's forums and message boards; iv) contact local organizations, such as tourist information offices in your country, and propose cooperation. Of course, each of these routes requires a huge involvement from your side. Now, 1.5 years after the launch, it is bloody clear that Wikivoyage does not develop on its own simply because the content was moved from Wikitravel. Either you do something, constantly edit articles, tidy up content, and take care of technical innovations, or simply nothing happens. --Alexander (talk) 10:01, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your advices, Alexander. You're very receptive to opinions of other members of our community. I appreciate your availability. As you suggested, I start optimizing contents and I'll take care of technical innovation. --Gobbler (talk) 13:37, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi Gobbler. From the start we at the Hebrew Wikivoyage have had a very low participation. As a result, after understanding it is up to me to do most of the tiresome work relating to building the foundation of the website by myself, I have become over time the main user developing Heb Voy (Heb Voy was launched in March 2013 mostly thanks to my efforts).
In my opinion, the amount of work which needs to be done by the "founders" of any successful Wiki project tends to be technically challenging, consumes A LOT of time, and is not always rewarding (especially when it seems that no one else want to help). Basically, in order for thousands of Greek speaking editors to eventually discover the Greek Wikivoyage and help out, it is up to you "founders" (is it only you?) to create the first decent 1000 or 2000 articles, probably mostly by yourself, making sure that they would be in a decent shape and that as a result the random readers whom would discover them sooner or later would have a much better understanding of why Wikivoyage is necessary at all (I have found that many new users tend to not understand the essential difference between Wikipedia and Wikivoyage, and as a result some would tend to write articles with large segments copied from the Wikipedia or otherwise write different articles for each site/buisness in an encylopedic style, instead of articles about major tourist destination which cover all sites loctaed in them. Your task is to be the first to guide the masses of potential Greek editors how this should be done (by making good articles and by conversing politely with the curious new editors), and try to slowly and gradually gather a community of editors.
We at the Hebrew Wikivoyage have tried most of Alexander's suggestions mentioned above (1) I tried to link all Heb Wikivoyage articles (most of whom are in the quality status "outline" or "Usable article") from Heb Wikipedia, but I was reverted and got "shouted" on for doing so because "Heb Voy articles are not yet of decent quality to deserve a link back from Heb Wikipedia" (in other words, the Heb Wikipedia community wants me to spend A LOT OF TIME writing thousands of good articles in order to get the links back on Wikipedia - this is quite a lot to ask from one or two users) (2) I contacted the Hebrew chapter of Wikimedia and that didn't really help much. All they could offer is for us Wikivoyagers to volunteer giving lectures about the project (although this offer is very kind, this means in practice that they are not willing or capable of taking the responsibility of advertising the project/initiative in media and/or web). (3) Advertising the project on Hebrew speaking Travel forums did help bring a lot more readers to the website, although some of those people only criticized the current poor state, and no one stayed to help. (4) The fourth suggestion does sound like a good idea in theory, although I am not sure doing so would have a huge effect for the Wikivoyage editions with smaller amounts of native speakers world wide, as for example, in the case of Heb Voy most Hebrew speakers live only in Israel (and most Greek speakers live only in Greece), unlike speakers of the English language or Spanish (there are many countries around the world in which those languages are the main languages). I would end this by saying that after all the efforts I have made so far to promote Heb Voy and to get editors from various sources, the only few ones whom ended up joining the Heb Voy editor community are existing Wikipedians (maybe you should try recruiting potential editors from there?). I guess this stems mostly from the fact that most people in the world do not want to write/develop content without getting paid, and apparently even less people want to help take part in creating a wiki that might or might not end becoming successful. Neverthelss, I believe that eventually, after a good foundation of a wiki website exists, and after the articles of the wiki get hundreds of thousands page views each month, it is inevitable that sooner or later additional editors would join the efforts. ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 18:41, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind advices. I read carefully everything. I share your points of views. As a first step I have to ask for temporary sysop rights to manage pages as there is no admin there. You know, we have very few pages but the article about your country was among the first to be created. See voy:el:Ισραήλ. Well there's very little information but I will expand the article soon. I'm going to manage my account in Hebrew wv right away in order to contact you again. You're a fine person. Regards --Gobbler (talk) 19:14, 30 April 2014 (UTC)


Just a quick one! This month on the English Wikivoyage:

Apologies for our recent absence from the Summits!

Nick talk 00:18, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

May 2014[edit]

Several French Wikivoyage editors use TransVoyage to semi-automatically translate articles from English to French.

June 2014[edit]

First German-English article collaboration, on the Travemünde article.


The following message was created in the end of may 2014 for this report. Unfortunately I forgot to post it here:

Please excuse our absence of the Summit in the last months! Following we want to recompense our fail: After having found a mysterious category containing pages with blacklisted links, we learned that certain URLs, that might help readers of Wikivoyage, are on the global spamblocklist. For example There's no reason to keep those on the list. Instead of removing them from the global list, which would mean, that other sister-projects are spammed, we can write them down on our white-list.
In this moment, there is a bureaucrat-election running in our project. In this process we learned some incidents about the rights of bureaucrats we eventually want to change. We're thinking about promoting bureaucrats the right to remove admin-rights, too! So we don't need to make the detour to meta and the stewards. Additionally we have two new importers.
Since 20th of May, users with more than 200 contributions are promoted autopatrolled-rights. This will, hopefully, relieve admins in patrolling vandalism.
With regards to contents: We want to work more on the topic "accessibility".
Greetings from the German Wikivoyage Community, Tim

--Timmaexx (talk) 11:40, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

July 2014[edit]

Mainly to show we are alive.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:39, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

 :-)))) --Andyrom75 (talk) 07:20, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Happy to hear that. It's summer time and we are going to explore the world. At least we guys from the northern hemisphere will have more time for the report during the upcoming cold season. -- DerFussi 08:03, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
We certainly have smth to say, but let us formally wait till Oct 1.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:38, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

September 2014[edit]


Since there is no administrator for Greek wv right now, I was thinking about applying for short terms administrator. I have mention about it on Greek traveller's pub, however there is no reply so far. Handrian (talk) 06:07, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

It may be possible to request at steward requests/Permissions#Administrator access with a link to your thread in the pub if you're unable to get an answer locally. K7L (talk) 11:23, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

November 2014[edit]


  • We were busy with building up lists of cultural heritage monuments (in conjunction with WLM), some are in a pretty good shape, but only a tiny fraction of them are currently ready.
  • We discussed changing the design (removal of bullets before the listing template), so far inconclusive though several options were proposed.
  • We also discussed whether in long lists of sights we should mark the most important ones. The general reaction was positive, but the discussion still needs to be closed.
  • Recent usable/guide articles (we do not have star articles): Moscow/Kremlin, Inkerman, Vianden.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:34, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
I think it is decided that bulletpoints should give way to POI markers because we don't need them simultaneously. --Alexander (talk) 11:30, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Right, but I thought we did not choose the design option. May be we should formally close the discussion.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:40, 6 November 2014 (UTC)


  • Banners: Extensive lists of all our 16,957 missing banners (sorted by article size) have been created in which anybody can easily suggest which images to make banners from. Having many more people involved in the process of finding suitable free CC source photos for Wikivoyage banners (especially people whom don't have the skills or software to create banners themselves), that exist on either Flickr or Wikicommons, greatly helps speed up the process of creating 16,957 missing banners (many of the suggested photos would be processed sooner or later by the few expert users whom specialize in creating many banners very fast).
  • Offline ZIM files are now available for all languages for November 2014:

December 2014[edit]


  • We are discussing the possibility of introducing a new layout of sights/regions sections, expanding the text, highlighting, and giving a photo. The consensus so far is in favor of the change, but we are still discussing the details of the layout. See voy:ru:Эстония for an example.
  • We now use stars to emphasize the most important sights. There can only be one star (or no stars), which are incorporated into template:listing, and a star can only be added to a sight which is accompanied by a comprehensive description.
  • Recent usable/guide articles: Mtskheta, Gyor--Ymblanter (talk) 08:28, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

January 2015[edit]


The "Wikivoyage" Datahub group gathers listings data (CSV, OSM, OBF) extracted from Wikivoyage. Currently English and Russian listings are available for download, more languages are welcome to join, feel free to reuse our bash script or our Java script. While listings data is useful in itself and for validation, it is also a first step towards listings collaboration between languages.


In french we have also a star article in Slovakia: Košice. I saw the new layout for regions, they are nice. --Adehertogh (talk) 14:14, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

February 2015[edit]


I have never participated in this discussion page, nevertheless, this time I decided to let the global Wikivoyage community know about the new feature we at Hebvoy are currently adding to our guides for prominent cities (which we would also be including in the future in all our other cities + countries guides) - namely, external links to pages on various prominent commercial websites which we estimate would be very useful for our readers/travelers (most relevant pages on websites such as TripAdvisor, Lonelyplanet, Timeout, Eventful,, Airbnb and for every city). Although most people know these days the majority of these websites, I still think that most of our readers would greatly benefit from us adding a selected group of the most prominent links under the section "External links" in our guides (and might also discover information or websites they were not aware of in this way). I decided to share this decision after being somewhat surprised this week when I found out that the English Wikivoyage is mostly opposed to including any external links to commercial websites, even if those links might greatly help the readers (read the discussion here).

The external links that the Hebvoy community currently wants to add to all of the "External links" sections at our cities articles (the current example includes the specific links that now appear in the Hebvoy New York City article):

Professional guides accessible without having to pay
Updated lists of prominent local events
Finding accommodation and renting vehicles

(You can see an example of a guide which now has these links here).

Which prominent external links would you add as well, and which would you remove? (I want the list to contain only the most prominent and useful links for travelers about destinations)? Does the community in you Wikivoyage have plans to add useful external links to commercial websites as well? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 07:48, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

On ru.wv we do not use such links, only links to websites of hotels etc as well as websites of cities or city tourist offices. I believe en.wv have the same policy as we have, since our policy originally was a translation of theirs.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:01, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
In it:voy we have a similar rule to the one mentioned by Ymblanter, that is: we allowed:
  • the official commercial website of resturant/hotel/etc in the relevant parameter of the listing
  • the official administrative and touristic website of a city/region/nation/etc. in the Quickbar template
  • the official website of certain item mentioned in the article e.g. univeristy, tv/radio channel, ariports, air/sea carriers etc.
  • exceptions are discussed time by time
On the other hand we do NOT allow:
  • unofficial website of any kind, because there's no criteria to choose one or another
  • generic booking website (e.g.
  • any link to any page of any travel guide really make no sense :-) if there something interesting there, it should be written here
--Andyrom75 (talk) 08:18, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Similar rules as in italian or russian in french too but we have the official facebook page in our listing template.--Adehertogh (talk) 10:15, 2 March 2015 (UTC)


Noting special, new usable articles: Foros, Ohrid, Kislovodsk, Sestroretsk. We are also working on transferring existing articles to the new format as described earlier. We started a Facebook group, so far without great success.--Ymblanter (talk) 15:01, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

We have also a new facebook page in french also without big success till now.--Adehertogh (talk) 10:15, 2 March 2015 (UTC)


From the begining of the year we made:

  • New climate template inspired by the german one but we improved it.
  • The Airport article type is now accepted.
  • Following the Article status, there are now less than 100 articles not respecting the articles templates (stub articles-ébauche).
  • new facebook page but very few followers...
  • This tool translate english wikivoyage syntax to the french one. Really helps for thanslations.
  • We plan to insert last edit date in the listing + other parameters as wifi access, accessibily for travellers in wheelchair and maybe Wikidata ID. But the talks about it is still open.
  • Two new star articles: Evere and Slovak phrasebook.

--Adehertogh (talk) 10:32, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

March 2015[edit]


  • This 19 March 2015 french wikivoyage has more than 5000 articles.
    Great, congratulations.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:28, 20 March 2015 (UTC)


  • Considered reusing banners as a background for cities in region articles: idea abandoned.
  • Consensus to improve gender balance, no actions defined.
  • Experimentation with articles about caves, about marinas, and about drama series tours.

April 2015[edit]


  • April fools: Time travel


  • We are mainly busy with compiling lists of nature monuments as a preparation for WLE; otherwise Kokand and Uglich may be the only our two usable articles in March.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:50, 3 April 2015 (UTC)


  • Our new template {{Horaire|day 1|day 2|hour 1|minute 1|hour 2|minute 2|hour 3|minute 3|hour 4|minute 4}} {{Horaire|1|4|8|30|12|30|13||15|45}} gives: Lun.- Jeu. : 8 h 30 - 12 h 30 et 13 h - 15 h 45. This would be easy to translate the opening hours from one language to an other if the other language version uses the same code.
  • In June it'll be the 200 years birthday of the battle of Waterloo, the article Site de la bataille de Waterloo has a guide status and updates for the coming event is well updated.--Adehertogh (talk) 19:17, 7 April 2015 (UTC)


  • Thanks to User:Mey2008's help we've implemented in our articles a new feature which allows to create GPX tracks and to download a file, that can be uploaded in GPS systems so that travellers can avail oneself of the info contained in listings even without an internet connection.
  • On April the 11th, also it:voy has more than 5000 articles :) --Nastoshka (talk) 17:52, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

May 2015[edit]


  • Wikidata became technically usable for listings on the 19th. Proof-of-concept: The listing "National Art Center" at Roppongi takes its name, URL, and thumbnail image from Wikidata.
  • Vega might be usable to create region maps dynamically.


  • We are mainly busy with the Wiki Loves Earth this month, two of our admins are the organizers, and lists are maintained on Russian Wikivoyage rather than on Wikipedia.
  • Latest usable articles: Samarkand, Bukhara, Mexico/Center--Ymblanter (talk) 10:51, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

June 2015[edit]


July 2015[edit]


  • An experimental listing retrieves from Wikidata most of its information: Name, Alt name, URL, Latitude, Longitude, Image.
  • New listings editor: Works even after session loss, larger fields, cleanly collapses on small screens, keeps and shows unrecognised fields, edit summary, multi-line possible.

August 2015[edit]


  • The new banners extension has been deployed, a huge advantage is that banners now display fine on mobile. We encourage all other Wikivoyages to use this banner extension.

Archived reports[edit]