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Please see the following archives for older discussion.

  • Archive 1 (2004-08-08 to 2006-03-21) — earliest discussion, before script-based updates (35K)
  • Archive 2 (2006-02-10 to 2006-06-14) — mostly about the switch to script-based updating of the "All Wikipedias" table (51K)
  • Archive 3 (2006-06-06 to 2006-09-01) — miscellaneous fixes to table formatting, vandalism reports, etc. (<32K)
  • Archive 4 (2006-09-12 to 2007-08-04) — debates over language inclusion, automatic updates, depth calculations, etc. (70K)
  • Archive 5 (2007-08-20 to 2007-12-31) — (67K)
  • Archive 6 (2008-01-13 to 2008-12-23) — (53K)

Contents

[edit] "Serbo-Croatian- a joke?

The fact that the so called "Serbo-Croatian" is listed as a separate language category beside the already existing Croatian and Serbian categories demonstrates Wikipedia's amateur aspect which is often politically motivated. The category "Serbo-Croatian" must be deleted if Wikipedia aspires to retain any form of credibility.--155.105.7.43 13:29, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Polyglott wikipedians

I see that this article is about wikipedias per article and not about wikipedians.
However, since the article about the statistics on wikipedians has ho discussion page, I will formulate here my request.
Because I've contributed to wikipedia in six different languages, I'm interested in knowing statistics about how many wikipedians contribute to more than one language edition and with how many articles and edits.
Thank you 82.90.46.143 14:37, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong Aramaic language code

Wikipedia has an Assyrian Neo-Aramaic version, using the language code ”arc”.

However ’arc’ is the code for Official Aramaic (700-300 BCE). 2300 to 2700 years ago... Hardly a language vividly used today.

Assyrian Neo-Aramaic has the ISO 639-3 code ’aii’, covered by the macrolanguage code ’syr’ (Syriac) (which is also in ISO 639-2, it has no ISO 639-1 2-letter code).

So I would suggest changing the language code for that Wikipedia to ’aii’ (keeping the name Assyrian Neo-Aramaic).

[edit] Bot request to update Anglo-Saxon version of this page

I just created the Anglo-Saxon language version of this page, and I would like to request to have a bot update its statistic counts, just the same as it is done here. I'm not sure where to send such a request, but I figured that at least this talk page would be a good start. Thanks. —Wōdenhelm 03:05, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Why it is so slow?

Latvian wikipedia have on 63 place, because there are more articls, wahy tjis statistic isn't change by 4 or 5 days?

Thank you:)

[edit] Could it be possible?

To create a new version for Old Norse? If so, how would one go about doing that?

[edit] Pontic Greek (pontic)

Please can you put in this list the pontic greek (pnt) pnt.wikipedia.org  ?--Consta 14:21, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

  • How long time it take put one language more to list? Hurry, hurry! :P --Historian 19:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Done. RobiH 18:14, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Changing The Ranks

I vote for inventing a new method to rank each wikipedia based on it's richness and activity rather than article count; as many wikipedias are more active with edits and content than others, but with less articles, yet they are ranked below those with less activity. so I think ranking by article is unrealistic and has to be changed to something that reflect the progress being made in each encyclopedia. AshrafSS 20:23, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Nheengatu language

Can we create a nheengatu wikipedia page? Nijago

[edit] Replace "Images" column with more useful information?

The "Images" column isn't the true number of images in the wiki since it doesn't include the "common" images. Even if it was, I'm not sure it too useful. I can think of several attributes that would be more interesting.

  1. Pages views - the metric used to figure out the "top ten" wikis
  2. Article count growth - how many new articles are created every month?
  3. Average article size - how big are the articles in the wiki (probably more useful than depth)
  4. Active user count - how many users that are actively editting the wiki

How about we replace "Images" with one of the above. -MarsRover 06:00, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Of cause the number of local images is not a real mark of quality, but maybe having no images local but using only commons is? en:wikipedia could also reduce local images by large amounts, though more liberal local laws as these for "fair use" may not allow to remove all without reducing the articles quality? IMHO this column could be a mark of sound "wikipedianess" if showing a blank zero! For my main target, the de:wikipedia, it could be a good ambition to discard all local images, as local laws do not allow much more than others around the world, especially those applied to the commons. Something like "number of images used" could be a real quality related column replacement. Pages views would not be a good column if not related to the number of speakers of the respective language. Article count growth is just a momentary measure, active user count would punish small communities but is maybe a better replacement for the number of total users. average article size, in the end, is something I would like to see, though it has it's drabacks, too (valuing blabla over reducement to proofed facts). -- Käptn Weltall 16:36, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
Having no images locally could mean they don't have any images at all. So, its not obvious from a low number whether the wiki is leveraging commons or completely devoid of images. Also, moving images to commons is great policy but doubt people come here to figure out the status of that work.
The idea of making "page views" relative to the size of the population would probably distort things more than correct them. The en.wp would have a huge number since a good percent of the page views are outside the english speaking countries.
With the advent of SUL, the user account number is probably not even close to the number of people that actually edit the articles. I agree with just replacing it with "active users".-MarsRover 19:36, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
The image column is the main reason why I check this page frequently. I find it interesting to see the progress of the move-to-commons-projects in different wikis. It also gives some hints to how liberal EDP's different wikis have. --Boivie 12:48, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bot update breaks tables with Burmese language

This site appears to be updated by a bot (or un-attentive person) which breaks the 1000+ table by making the Burmese local name some huge unicode characters instead of မြန်မာဘာသာ, which appears to be the standard spelling (according to en:Burmese language). Sligocki 06:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] "Depth"

Where did this formula come from and what is it supposed to measure? Edits/Articles is more a measure of the amount of vandalism and trivial bot-editing than anything else, and Non-Articles/Articles is more a measure of bureaucracy and pointless user subpages than anything else. Which explains why the English Wikipedia ranks so highly. Gurch 15:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Listing of numbers of articles in other languages than English

On the main page of the English Wikipedia, a number of languages are grouped which have more than 300,000 articles. There are now Wikipedias in several languages which have more than 500,000 articles, and the German Wikipedia is likely to top a million before too much longer. I think it is time now, and it would be of some interest to the general reader to make more of these exciting developments. I suggest a category for languages which have more than 500,000 articles and, when the German Wikipedia reaches a million articles, I think this should receive special note. Would be interested in any comments. Cheers John Hill 15:04, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Site link

This page link is not working. This page doesn't open. Is there any problem with this page? Or the editors have deliberately blocked this site to prevent users from updating. Rohitrrrrr 05:49, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Inclusion of Telugu wikipedia

I am one of the sysops at [Telugu wikipedia http://te.wikipedia.org]. It has over 43k articles and depth is 5.21. Can anybody include this language wiki in the list of wikis having 40k+ articles. If there is any other requirement please let us know. --రవిచంద్ర 06:59, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Telugu is second highest specking language in India.Please do needful --User:Bhavi

What "list of wikis having 40k+ articles" are you talking about? this list has 10k+ and 100k+ lists?--MarsRover 17:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Meadow Mari

Please, put Meadow Mari wikipedia [1] on the list.--Historian 17:42, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] What is an active user?

Would be good if there could be some info regarding what constitutes an active user, with the table. Ulflarsen 20:48, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

An active user is a user who has performed an action in the last 30 days. ASOTMKX 14:36, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] sorting

It is of course good that we added one more wiki and one more column, however, sorting in the table is now made in alphabetical order, not in numerical order as it was before the change. Could someone ellaborate on this? Mashiah Davidson 17:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

The sorting is messed up because there is spaces instead of commas in the numbers. ASOTMKX 14:34, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] s23.org

We should use the s23.org script, even if it doesn't have many metrics and absolutely every Wikipedia. If Mutante neglects the tool for an extended period of time, then we should stop using it. But the reason this page exists is to provide up-to-date statistics and to automate the process as much as possible. Do you know of an alternative script that provides similarly current (i.e., daily) numbers in wiki syntax? If so, it should be publicly available, so that other Wikipedians can keep this page up-to-date. Wikipedia has other sources for thoroughly analyzed, comprehensive statistics, such as stats.wikimedia.org, but the downside is that they're updated much less frequently. The less automation we allow, the more likely the tool will end up like Wikipedia:Multilingual statistics. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 07:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I would agree. I don't think I absolutely need "Active users" metric and the new tool maintainer doesn't look responsive enough. Mashiah Davidson 19:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedias with less than 10 articles.

Every single one of those is currently "closed" and have been for a few years now. I assume that they will not be opened anytime soon (I would love them to do so however if there are individuals who can write articles in that language and if there is such a request by all means). But for now, is there any reason for them to still appear on this list as if they are active wikis? All it seems to be doing is making the entire Wikipedia look like it has articles in 267 languages (on this page anyway) when it really only has 260. Cheers.Calaka 14:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Four new wikipedias to add

  1. Wikipedia Acehnese
  2. Wikipedia Kurdish (Sorani)
  3. Wikipedia Mirandese
  4. Wikipedia Western Panjabi
--MarsRover 07:24, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I've notified Mutante, the user whose script we fed into this page until recently. Once the script is updated, we can hopefully start using it again – there's no way we can expect people to be updating this huge page by hand. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 07:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Arrange by active users

Does not work! It goes by the first digit so that for example 1100 < 21. I guess it's in alphabetical mode instead of numeric mode or something? I don't know how to change this. Eb.eric 14:39, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] All languages of Wikipedia

I want a list over ALL LANGUAGES of Wikipedia, where can I found it? 62.16.168.57 18:26, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Complete_list_of_Wikimedia_projects is the only page other than this one that I can think of. J.delanoygabsadds 18:30, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Try the site matrix. GreenReaper 04:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] 600 articles missing from (W)Punjabi Wikipedia +

I want to draw the attention toward the missing of 600 articles in the article counter Western Punjabi Wikipedia. The counter is showing the number of 2104, although it should show 2704. Please rectify the mistake. See this incubator counter of this Wikipedia 2 weeks [2].

2. In the language (local) column پنجابی is enough. Please delete the other words.

--Khalid Mahmood 11:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The Wiki Stats Data Is Wrong

  • Japanese wikipedias have 600000+ articles , but Wiki Stats data only 6800+ articles.
  • Gan wikipedias have 4400+ articles , but Wiki Stats data is 6800+ articles.
  • Dutch Low Saxon wikipedias have 3800+ articles , but Wiki Stats data is 6800+ articles.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.250.10.165 (talk • contribs) 12:52, 29 August 2009 (UTC).

The article counter on some of the wikis is broken. I'll try to fix it whenever I update the page using the s23.org tool, but I can't guarantee anything until the software is fixed. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 21:12, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Who objects to a 500,000+ list, and why?

I have twice seen attempts to split the 100,000+ List of Wikipedias (and there may have been other attempts I did not see) into 500,000+ and 100,000+, but within days it reverts to a single list of 100,000+. Surely a list with Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, Italian, Japanese, Polish, French & German would provide a finer and more meaningful distinction. German is soon to join English in the 1,000,000+ list, but since it will have only one-third the number of entries, that will say nothing very useful for comparative purposes. If Wikipedia articles were aligned with world literacy and education, Polish and Dutch would slip down a few places, and Russian up a few. A list showing 500,000 to 1,000,000 entries would reflect these trends visually. I think everyone understands why Chinese is not represented to the extent statistics would predict. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.136.57.64 (talk • contribs) 22:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC).

You could discuss this with Mutante, who maintains the script that we use to update the page. If the page is changed without a corresponding change in his script, everything will revert as soon as someone updates the tables. This page isn't really intended to be a statement about the importance of certain languages over others, just a plain listing of data. There are much more interesting ways to visualize and compare language editions, especially Erik Zachte's statistics animations. Perhaps we should be publicizing these resources better. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 08:46, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Why separate tables anyway? Is this due to a sorting problem? --Matthead 20:16, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Belarusian (Tarashkevitsa) language name

Hi! Аccording to the language title in the localization messageы file [3] and IANA language subtag registry [4] (plain text is used there) the proper name of the orthography is Taraškievica. Therefore I suggest renaming Belarusian (Tarashkevitsa) to Belarusian (Taraškievica), so the stat line will appear to be:

|-
| 65
| [[w:Taraškievica|Belarusian (Taraškievica)]] 
| class="plainlinksneverexpand" | [{{fullurl:be-x-old:Беларуская мова}} Беларуская (тарашкевіца)]
| [[:be-x-old:|be-x-old]]
| class="plainlinksneverexpand" | [{{fullurl:be-x-old:Special:Statistics|action=raw}} '''21,794''']

| 60,660
| [[:be-x-old:Special:Statistics|548,710]]
| [[:be-x-old:Special:Listadmins|9]]
| [[:be-x-old:Special:Listusers|7,973]]
| [[:be-x-old:Special:Listusers|151]]
| [[:be-x-old:Special:Imagelist|1,659]]
| 29
|-

--zedlik 13:36, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


[edit] volapuk language?

by [[5]] volapuk language has only 20 speaker, it is quite amazing, they manage to pull out 118,000 articles with 6,000 users?!?
23:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Most of articles were written by Volapukian robots.
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then how come there are 6,000 listed volapuk users?
this is quite confusing.
01:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
It means 6,000 wikipedia users has an account at the volapukian Wikipedia, whether or not they understand the language. Nowadays I think an account is created just by viewing a page, if you are logged in somewhere else with a global account. --Boivie 07:56, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Punjabi, Western Panjabi, Gurmukhi, Shahmukhi

Please change the title of 'Western Panjabi' to 'Punjabi (Shahmukhi)' and 'Punjabi to 'Punjabi (Gurmukhi)' as it is appropriate description. Western Punjabi is a set of dialects which should not be confused with Shahmukhi which is Punjabi written in persio-arabic script. The wikipedia under 'Punjabi' is Punjabi in indic script which should be Gurmukhī script.

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