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Please see the following archives for older discussion.

  • Archive 1 (2004-08-08 to 2006-03-21) — earliest discussion, before script-based updates (35K)
  • Archive 2 (2006-02-10 to 2006-06-14) — mostly about the switch to script-based updating of the "All Wikipedias" table (51K)
  • Archive 3 (2006-06-06 to 2006-09-01) — miscellaneous fixes to table formatting, vandalism reports, etc. (<32K)
  • Archive 4 (2006-09-12 to 2007-08-04) — debates over language inclusion, automatic updates, depth calculations, etc. (70K)
  • Archive 5 (2007-08-20 to 2007-12-31) — (67K)
  • Archive 6 (2008-01-13 to 2008-12-23) — (53K)
  • Archive 7 (2009-12-06 to 2011-05-02) — (39K)
  • Archive 8 (2011-06-06 to 2015-10-07) — (90K)
  • Archive 9 (2015-10-08 to 2017-10-23) — (18K)

Error in the table[edit]

There's an error at line 213 of the table (Doteli Wikipedia) where the native name and the English name of the language are inverted, which fucks up the links, but I don't know how to fix it. Basemetal (talk) 15:04, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

  • Fixed. --Emaus (talk) 01:51, 10 February 2018 (UTC)


What's happening with Cebuano, it has over 5 million articles! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 22:59, 16 November 2017‎

This is not a problem. The majority of the articles in the Cebuano Wikipedia have been created by a bot called Lsjbot. The English Wikipedia has an article about this bot: Lsjbot.
Regards --NicoScribe (talk) 07:45, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Klingon Wikia[edit]

The Klingon Wikia link is broken, here is a working link.'a' --Sabelöga (talk) 22:43, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Kabiye Wikipedia[edit]

For Kabiye (kbp), the "Language" and "Language (local)" designations are the wrong way round on this list. The name of the language in English is 'Kabiye'. The name of the language in Kabiye is 'Kabɩyɛ'. Please can this be changed? Gnangbade (talk) 08:55, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

  • Fixed. --Emaus (talk) 01:50, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Updates for 14 January 2018?[edit]

Why are there no updates for 00:00 & 12:00 14 January 2018 (UTC)? Is it out of order?--Kowlooner (talk) 12:50, 14 January 2018 (UTC)


? Total what? Bits/bytes/characters/words/edits? Apparently not articles, since there is a separate, smaller column for this category. I would correct this, but I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SHOULD BE. 06:55, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Under the section "Notes" you will find the definition of "Total". -- Tegel (Talk) 07:14, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
@Tegel: So you've just helped that IP user, but it's no help to anyone else: we just have to scroll down to Notes and find out for ourselves. Not even a link! Shame on whoever set the table up that way! --Thnidu (talk) 22:05, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
@Tegel: A proper fix would be to link all the headers that are discussed in Notes to that section, or even to the appropriate paragraph in Notes via anchors. --Thnidu (talk) 22:14, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Hi. Yes, I popped in here in the beginning of the year when a user had a question. I have just reverted vandalism a couple of times so I have not contributed to the page in any way other than that. All users with a confirmed account can change and improve the page, so if you see anything that can be improved you could do it yourself as well. From the history of the page you can see who made the current structure. Just think of Etiquette if you contact them. -- Tegel (Talk) 16:02, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

New column "Views"[edit]

Hello, everyone!

I have an idea to add a column with site views to the table. Here you can find it's first draft: List of Wikipedias/Table v2.

Please comment this. In case of approval here, I'm going to start an RFC with some additional options of the table modification. --Emaus (talk) 01:43, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

What's the point of simple English wikipedia?[edit]

I get the gist of it, but it seems practically the same as the actual English. Not that "simple". Alex of Canada (talk) 00:48, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Look at several of the other longer, better quality articles there. You'd be surprised as to how simple the page is in comparison to its counterpart. Unfortunately, we don't have too many active editors over there to keep all pages simple. hiàn 04:04, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
This is not the place to discuss the use of any particular Wikipedias. Or Wikipedia in general, for that matter. Steinbach (formerly Caesarion) 12:12, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
I will edit on it, then. Alex of Canada (talk) 00:01, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Uppercase missing at[edit]

In the language list at nearly all languages but the Armenian in the 100.000+ section are given with uppercase first letter. Armenian is mentioned as հայերեն, rather than Հայերեն: How can this be fixed ? Darwwin (talk) 10:26, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

I'll put in a phabricator on that. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:45, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
phabricator:T193060. I suspect they'll handle this pretty promptly. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:52, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
@Darwwin: Phabricator reports that the correction will be deployed on Monday, 7 May. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:01, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
thanks! Darwwin (talk) 10:17, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
@Darwwin: Have a look now ... StevenJ81 (talk) 15:03, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
@StevenJ81:, perfect! thanks for very quick processing!

Un MAmaguebo trafficante[edit] 16:01, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

I have no idea what you want to have done here. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:53, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Albanian Wiki[edit]

It seems to have disappeared from the main list. I had to pick it up from the External Link at the top of the page (sq:Faqja kryesore).

Others may also have gone AWOL. The intro talks of 301/291 Wikis, but there are only 278 in the numbered list.

(I don't need a reply, it's just something which may need looking into.) Narky Blert (talk) 17:53, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

I have informed the bot owner to the bot that do the update that there is languages missing. -- Tegel (Talk) 18:05, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Do we need a phabricator task to address the missing wikis on the table? --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done, I've issued the phabricator task. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:41, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
The task has been rejected as "invalid", but when will you add the missing wikis on the list? --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:50, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Ukrainian Wikipedia not listed[edit]

I notice that Ukrainian Wikipedia is not listed on the table. Is that language version closed? --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Also Bosnian Wikipedia is missing. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:32, 6 June 2018 (UTC) Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:32, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Do we need a phabricator task to address the missing wikis on the table? --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:35, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done, I've issued the phabricator task. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:41, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
The task has been rejected as "invalid", but when will you add the missing wikis on the list? --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:50, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Hello! Bot gets errors on local data obtaining, probably due to technical works. Currently I stopped the bot and reverted page to last full version.

Turkmenian Wikipedia (170.) is not written in her own alphabet at Language local column[edit]

The Turkmen Wikipedia is not written in her own alphabet. It is not Arabic or Cyrillic style. Why? Can somebody fix it?--Porbóllett (talk) 18:41, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

  • Fixed. --Emaus (talk) 01:54, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you.--Porbóllett (talk) 18:28, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Santali language link[edit]

Hello! The Santali language link goes to w:ᱥᱟᱱᱛᱟᱲᱤ and not w:Santali language. Thank you! Ed [talk] [en] 22:46, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

  • Hello! Fixed. --Emaus (talk) 20:59, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Hausa Wikipedia (#223) native name written only with Arabic script[edit]

Hausa Wikipedia (#223) native name is written only with Arabic script, despite the language is also written with the Latin script. Please fix it. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 23:03, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

  • Added "Hausa" into local name. --Emaus (talk) 20:58, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

3rd bullet under "Notes"[edit]

The page states:

    ""Images" is the number of locally uploaded files."

In the chart, "Images" is replaced by the header "Files". Should it be changed? The Graceful Hobo (talk) 13:14, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --Antonio1952 (talk) 20:05, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Vietnamese entry in table[edit]

No depth is given, just "--". Is there a reason for this? I suppose I could calculate the depth by hand. Bruce leverett (talk) 18:17, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

  • Hello! This is caused by artificially grown total page number which distorts the real situation. --Emaus (talk) 21:51, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
    • Do many non-artical pages still exist now? Why they cannot be caculated into the total page number as valid. Thanks. MirrorWuu (talk) 07:36, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

An oblivion about Moldovan Wikipedia deletion information[edit]

In section "Deprecated, moved and other", subsection "Moved and deleted" you forgot to state the deletion of Moldovan (Cyrillic) Wikipedia, which has been at first closed, then moved to Wikia and finally deleted and redirected to Romanian Wikipedia. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 22:24, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Rationale for "Never been an official Wikipedia"[edit]

The "Never been an official Wikipedia" section now lists 3 wikis that were rejected as Wikimedia projects. Problem is, there are already hundreds of potential Wikipedias that have been rejected, and surely dozens more on the way. Any of them could be set up at Wikia or elsewhere and possibly be added to this list. We obviously don't want to list all of them here. So, what exactly are the criteria for inclusion in the "Never been an official Wikipedia" section on this page? Should the section even be here at all? - dcljr (talk) 21:59, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

That section probably made sense in the early years of Wikimedia for projects that might conceivably become legitimate Wikipedia editions had the process gone through. I agree that those years are now gone. — Yerpo Eh? 13:58, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
OK, fair warning: I am prepared to remove that section entirely. Unless someone gives me a good reason not to, I will remove it in a few days. - dcljr (talk) 20:11, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
I done did it. - dcljr (talk) 08:31, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Shan Wikipedia[edit]

For Shan (shn), the "Language" and "Language (local)" designations are the wrong way round on this list. The name of the language in English is 'Shan'. The name of the language in Shan is 'ၽႃႇသႃႇတႆး'. Please can this be changed? Jacek Janowski nr2 (talk) 19:52 9 February 2019 (UTC)

See here. --Antonio1952 (talk) 22:32, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

German wrong link[edit]

Please change [[Deutsche]] to [[Deutsche Sprache|Deutsche]] on the first table. -- 20:03, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. Nihlus 19:57, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
@Nihlus: I fear the bot updating this page will override your edit during its next run, at least that is what seems to have happened with previous manual edits to that page. It might be advisable to contact the bot operator. --Vogone (talk) 20:09, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I figured it might. If it does, I will contact the botop. Nihlus 20:45, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
@Nihlus: the bot has reverted the wrong link... -- 06:18, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
@Nihlus: you missed my last message? Link to German language is still wrong... -- 20:04, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
He's been notified. Nihlus 20:20, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) The content you all are discussing here is transcluded from List of Wikipedias/Table, which is generated by a bot twice per day. As pointed out at the top of Talk:List of Wikipedias/Table, you need to contact User:Emaus (who just got pinged here) to make permanent changes to the table. - dcljr (talk) 20:24, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

error (Northern Sami)[edit]

The table says, "Sámegiella", but it links to "Davvisámegiella".
Please change the text in the table to "Davvisámegiella".

The content page can not be edited by my user account. Regards! Sju hav (talk) 13:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Bug in table[edit]

Native and English names of Western Armenian are swapped on the table. Please fix that bug! --Agusbou2015 (talk) 18:14, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Number of Words[edit]

Hi Emaus. Would it be possible to integrate also the number of words in all content pages in this table, which are evaluated in 'Special:Statistics' for some time now? Best regards, --Holder (talk) 12:09, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

(Not an answer to your question, but might be helpful…) The information currently shown in the "All Wikipedias" table are all based on the raw stats accessible through the API. But it looks like the "Words in all content pages" number shown on Special:Statistics is provided by the CirrusSearch extension (see Community Wishlist Survey 2017/Miscellaneous/Word count on statistics and the links from there). I don't know how a script would access that number. Do you? Emaus, can you figure it out? - dcljr (talk) 01:45, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes, bot gets data via API but can use any other useful data source. Currently I dony't know such source for word number. --Emaus (talk) 19:49, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Error in the table at Serial Number 162[edit]

The language "Bhojpuri" ("भोजपुरी" in the Devanagari script)(Serial Number 162 in the table) has been misidentified as the group of over 11 languages, "Bihari" - which it belongs to. I don't know how to fix it, so somebody else please do. PolyRe167895432 (talk) 00:49, 07 November 2019 (GMT + 5:30 hrs)

This seems to be because "bh" is the ISO language code for the Bihari language group (the Wikipedia subdomain in question is ''), while Bhojpuri is "bho". Emaus would be the one to change this in the table (and he has just been "pinged" here). Note that the wiki was apparently created before there were clear rules about naming Wikimedia wikis (subdomains). A "bh" Wikipedia certainly would not be created today. There is already a Phabricator task (created in 2014) to change the subdomain from "bh" to "bho". Unfortunately, it is currently prohibitively difficult to perform such "renames" (I'm not sure why), so I wouldn't expect the subdomain itself to get "fixed" anytime soon. - dcljr (talk) 04:45, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Changed english name to bhojpuri. --Emaus (talk) 22:43, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Should this be mentioned in the Cebuano Language article?[edit]

A minority language in the southern Philippines having the second largest Wikipedia next to English, more than not only Filipino but Spanish, the Chinese dialects, Japanese, German, Russian, with significantly less users is both noteworthy and amazing. Does anybody believe it should be mentioned in w:Cebuano language? J390 (talk) 02:14, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

The proper place to ask this would seem to be en:Talk:Cebuano language. (Note that almost all articles on the Cebuano Wikipedia were created — and most only edited since — by a single bot, as you can verify by hitting "Random page" several times on that wiki and then "View history" on each page you come to. So the size accomplishment is not at all amazing. Whether it's noteworthy can be discussed elsewhere.) - dcljr (talk) 02:27, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Correction to Old English[edit]

So the local language link for Old English redirects to "Nīwenglisc sprǣc" (Modern English). The correct link should be "Ænglisc spræc". Thanks! Clarinetguy097 (talk) 06:05, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

That redirect lives on the Old English Wikipedia. Please get consensus there to change the redirect. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:16, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Depth calculation[edit]

Hello! Is depth calculated automatically? I have the case for Basque wikipedia where (7569979/348777)*((705704-348777)/348777)^2=22 and now it appears as 11. I don't know the cause to be exactly the double. Thanks -Theklan (talk) 23:28, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

  • Hello! The first divisor should be a total page number and not the article number. So the calculation is (7569979/705704)*((705704-348777)/348777)^2=11. --Emaus (talk) 17:05, 2 January 2020 (UTC)