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Hello, can my account be unlocked now? Pardon and thanks!

Wikidata weekly summary #127[edit]

User rights account creator on fr.wikisource[edit]

Hi Billinghurst,

Please can you either give me the right to give rights of account creator, or give this right yourself, to User:Ernest-Mtl. Thanks for your help! --Zyephyrus (talk) 22:24, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done via SRP. @Zyephyrus: If you wish for the grant rights for "account creator" to be held by frwikisource bureaucrats (s:fr:Spécial:Liste des droits de groupe), then have a local discussion, to reach consensus (and submit a bugzilla request). If you need a hand, then give me a shove and I can explain the technical detail, but to start the conversation, that is the pertinent detail. :-)  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:52, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #128[edit]


Hello Billinghurst. I think that you forgot to remove your checkuser right on fawiki. Regards.--Calak (talk) 13:12, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

COIBot xwiki review[edit]

Hi billinghurst, can you examine my action on User:COIBot/XWiki/ and other COIBot userspace edits (mostly clousures)? I'm newbie to antispam world (especially COIBot), so I want to get second opinion on it, and I saw you have done lots of effors in this area :) — revi 16:09, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Looks fine. I usually just place commentary to explain either to myself or to others what I sort of did. More explanation if I think that it needs more, or less if it is obvious.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:18, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, one question: Can COIBot configured to stalk a domain addtion on local wiki?(not xwiki) — revi 07:19, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
There are local reports Category:COIBot Local Reports‎, though generally it isn't designed to limit its focus, per wiki as COI and spam are just that, and it doesn't matter whether it is a local wiki or xwiki it is still spam, or CoI.  — billinghurst sDrewth 08:51, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Then, how can I command to watch addition of some domain? — revi 09:57, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Available commands at Small Wiki Monitoring Team/IRC  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:55, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Template:Tps(Edit conflict.) - User:-revi, do you mean that you want a report for a specific domain? For that, on wiki, there is User:COIBot/Poke - you poke the domain in a LinkSummary template there, and COIBot should save a report for that domain 'shortly' (though it seems to have saving hickups at the moment, I hope to have time in the end of next month to look at those problems). --Dirk Beetstra T C (en: U, T) 11:56, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Billinghurst: Thanks, but seems the commands need some permissions, but I don't have it :(
Beetstra: Thanks, that's what I was looking for! — revi 12:02, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

New Mail[edit]

Eurodyne (talk) 04:19, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

I have no specific opinion about your block on species. My comment was more generic.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:35, 19 October 2014 (UTC)


Re your question on IRC: What did you mean by aligning namespaces? I'm guessing it'll probably require filing a shell bug detailing what needs to be done? Legoktm (talk) 16:30, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

@Legoktm: Bugs exist. Talking about aligning/standardising NSs for the WSes, initially defining/declaring a standardised set(s) of NSs that the WSes will use, then working on migrating the WSes to the defined sets. Primary interest is declaring Index: and Page: so components can be set in the governing extension. All stuff that is discussive, such why a name, and managing expectations, so looking for a pointer of the direction (technical or community relationship within WMF)  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:09, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #129[edit]

Colton Cosmic[edit]

Although I appreciate your limiting Coltons block to a year rather than infinite I still think he should have been unblocked. I do not think their intention was to "spam" and it seems to me they simply misunderstood the purpose of this wiki. If someone would have simply asked him to stop sending messages I am sure they would have done that. However, no one did, Snowolf just blocked them indefinitly because she didn't want to hear about a user who is banned from the English WP. A common problem BTW of many editors including myself due to the devolving nature of that Wiki and why they are losing editors and admins faster than they can recruit new ones. Given that Colton had a lot of other good contributions to this Wiki outside the talk page message incident and an apparent misunderstanding of the use of this Wiki, I would encourage you to unblock or at least reduce the duration of his block. I see a potentially useful contributor that is blocked simply as a misunderstanding. That is not why we should be using blocks, especially lengthy duration ones. IMO the problem has been resolved and the user understands what they did wrong, they just do not agree with the block and frankly neither do I. Reguyla (talk) 14:54, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Reguyla, I don't fully concur with your synopsis. I started a polite and helpful response, however, I have reflected on the user's approach on my talk page at enWP subsequent to my shortening the block. I have simply had enough of their overly righteous approach. This is a community, we are volunteers, so when someone is not listening, not evidently modifying behaviour, then becomes insulting, these are not components of misunderstanding. I am choosing not to have any further action, or interaction with this user.

To catch butterflies, one uses something sweet, if one puts down shit, one just get flies. Sometimes life's lessons reflect our own approach.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:30, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

I have read their comments both here and on ENWP and as someone who was in a similar situation (and continue to be) on ENWP I can tell you that its frustrating when you get screwed and no one cares. I am not saying that I agree with everything Colton said or did, but being blocked indefinitely without having so much as a warning first seems extraordinarily stupid. As far as I can see, Colton stated they misunderstood the policy here and that they would not do it again and then others including yourself insisted that they beg forgiveness before they could return. It makes absolutely no sense why you all think that would make the user just go away and giveup. If anything, that sort of conduct and backing editors into corners turns them into vandals, sockmasters and the like. As far as I can tell Colton is simply the latest in a series of editors who were banned from ENWP who feel they were treated unfairly and want to participate but are given no avenue to due so. Reguyla (talk) 00:57, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
If you review my approach, I think that you will find that I am not an obdurate blocker of users of good faith, even those with whom I am in abject disagreement. That said, where a user is blocked, I am wanting to see some change in approach to undo a block of another. This is a community and we need to try to get along, and we all need to give a little. Anyway, as I said, with this case I am finished, and I have expressed why. I would suggest that the user email Teles (as Teles suggested) when they are willing to stop pinging people, and maybe the talk page can be reopened. Either way, a talk page to which I am not returning.

Re enWP, sure it is less than perfect, expectations of perfection are unrealistic as there are these contrary and variable beasts called people involved. The WM2014 talk by Raph Koster may be of interest to you. It is a bunfight to which I wander only a little these days. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:50, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

I really don't have a dog in this fight and I don't have any ties to Colton so its not that big of a deal to me, I have just been in the same dead end and frustrating situation and I understand where he is coming from. Further I see where he has already said he wouldn't do it anymore if unblocked and I have a problem with admins blocking, especially for long durations without a warning first and especially with editors who had done other goo edits first. That is what causes vandals and the like and that conduct is a poor reflection on admins as a whole. Anyway, I'm not going to keep fighting this because its clear that no one wants him to participate in this project and there clearly isn't anything I can do to change your mind. Reguyla (talk) 14:44, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #114[edit]

Renamers' mailing list[edit]

Hi, when you allocated me global renamer rights, you advised me to subscribe to the mailing list (I'm guessing this one). I did that a few days ago, but haven't received a response, possibly because I entered my full name which the list admin didn't recognize. Could you point me to someone who can resolve this? Thank you, — Yerpo Eh? 12:05, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that one, and noting the email addresses at the bottom of the page. @Yerpo, Savh, Trijnstel: If you use IRC, also note that there is a invite channel too.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:14, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Dear Yerpo, that is indeed the mailing list. We have received various subscribtions, but to be able to confirm yours, please reply to the e-mail I just send you. Once that is received, I will approve it. Savhñ 21:14, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Where can I ask for help against these spammers on French WS?[edit]

Hello Billinghurst,

Is there any thing we can do with this to-day's attack? Thanks very much! --Zyephyrus (talk) 02:40, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

@Zyephyrus: quickest is to write a filter that prevents IP addresses adding external urls. There is external url filters at enWS that you can copy, and to limit to IP addresses, utilise user_age = 0 (I think that it is user_age).  — billinghurst sDrewth 03:14, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry on mediawikiwiki[edit]

As a note, in reply to Special:Diff/10376044, sockpuppetry is prohibited on mediawikiwiki per mw:Project:Sock puppetry. Jackmcbarn (talk) 20:54, 31 October 2014 (UTC)