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Hello, I don't really know how wikipedia works, but the article keeps on being reverted by some right winged nationalist. I add a line that states that the person in the article is a anarcho-communist and an athiest, and it keeps being reverted.

Citations for the changes I made. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 008bond (talk)

@008bond: This is a matter for that Wikipedia, and you should address your concerns on that site. For local guidance please see the list of hiWP administrators. Stewards have no local role with regard to general content.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:58, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy new years 2015[edit]

My personal Happy new yaer to All Stewards of WMF Project.Best regards. Happy new year to you Dear "Billinghurst" :D --Grind24 (talk) 18:44, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy new year to you Dear Billinghurst --Florence (talk) 18:47, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind thoughts and taking the time to drop by my talk page. :-)  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:53, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Is is for you already? Then, Feliz año nuevo 2015 (Happy New Year 2015). -- M\A 23:09, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
We are not that far ahead of UTC! We are leading into the party tonight. :-)  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:12, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

What is an RFC's purpose?[edit]

I'm just wondering what outcome if any comes from opening a request for comment discussion. I started a discussion several months ago hoping that it would draw the attention of administration and the matter would be resolved with a decision one way or anotherbut in actuality its been noticed by hardly anyone.


David Condrey (talk) 17:03, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

It is a request for comment to gauge opinion, and the weight of opinion determines whether the issue should progress and in which directions. Who drives it, how it is driven, where it is promoted and whether it is promoted through relevant communities, and the impact all are pertinent for broader opinion. Some go nowhere, some get decisions quickly, some plod along. It is an inexact science.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:10, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #139[edit]

Wikidata weekly summary #140[edit]

Links about compatibility and NFC Tags Specs[edit]

I put those links because they are really up-to-date (more than, for example) and are very useful for users, because those info are hard to find, especially in Italian. Let me know what you think. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk)

Non-authoritative link, without sources. Not sure that it is needed, however, if you believe that it is a valid link then the talk page of the article is the means to progress the addition. You should also declare whether you do or do not have any association with the site to which you are adding the link.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:00, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #141[edit]

see meta update regarding admin abuse for Ymblanter and HJ Mitchell[edit]

These admins are not following policy rules and block without talk engagement including range blocks. The discussions re RedPenofDoom is just a example of conflict of interest with HJ Mitchell, YmBlanter refuses to engage as well. wiki oversight is constantly having to overrule YmBlanter and HJ Mitchell —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk)

It is an issue for the wiki and needs to be sorted out by the wiki. Stewards are not a global arbitration committee. English Wikpedia has w:WP:UTRS and w:WP:ArbCom, if you believe that you have a case then use them.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:02, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

we cant use arbcom or utrs since get blocked when try to use, the block from posting the original block then causes a block to arbcom/utrs. Oversight is seeing problems with the en wiki admins and they seem a law unto themselves and when people point this out with evidence you get blocked with no talk engagement. This is why arbcom is failing as fails to address users which are blocked.

That is their accountable decision-making process, stewards have no right to intervene with a democratically elected ArbCom.  — billinghurst sDrewth 08:57, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

If you're bored![edit]

Could you undelete my user page (from my deletion - couple of junk ones since I see which are not required). While I'll need to remove some of the garbage it will probably be easier to start from a known point. Cheers --Herby talk thyme 08:51, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

@Herbythyme: lazily brought it all back bar the suppressed content. If some stuff needs to be shot again, please do some diffs. Delighted to see you back from your sabbatical, and maybe with some of the enthusiasm returned. Face-smile.svg  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:36, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
'preciated - as to enthusiasm... we'll see ;)--Herby talk thyme 09:49, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

I know I should know the answer but...[edit]

Is local rollback available? My memory is sketchy not having had to rely on such things :) --Herby talk thyme 17:41, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Looking at Special:ListGroupRights it would appear that it is admins only. To me, I would think that the local 'crats would look favourably on your retrieving those rights.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Meh... --Herby talk thyme 12:59, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
{{spin}} {{twirl}} {{party}} Herbythyme Welcome back to the collective.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:37, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Simply proof I'm mad maybe... --Herby talk thyme 08:39, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Or "further proof that you are still crazy".  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:49, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #142[edit]

You've got mail[edit]

@Elockid: replied.  — billinghurst sDrewth 01:37, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Help request from Marathi Wikipedia[edit]


In July 2014 after a discussion with User:Nemo_bis Marathi Wikipedia local file upload was made sysop only and other users are directed to commons. since Jan to June period there are lot of Marathi language and Marathi Wikipedia celebrations and to get a emotional connect photothon events are arranged so Marathi Wikipedia wants to make it flexible for a specific time span Jan to June and allow local file upload from Jan to June. I want your support in filining a relevant bug at Phabricator (I have not been able to log in there at learning phabricator related aspects for me will take longer time . Actually I made the same request to User:Nemo_bis on his meta talk page he seems to be active but not responding may be he is busy in some other activities). Local discussion page on Marathi Wikipedia for your ref

Looking forward to your kind support

Mahitgar (He who knows ,wants to know and and loves to keep others informed) (talk) 06:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

What you are desiring is nothing to do with stewards, either in design or implementation, so my support or otherwise is moot. If your community desires to have uploads, that would be a decision by consensus, followed by a phabricator request, nothing more, nothing less. I would suggest that your licensing templates would be worthwhile getting right ahead of that time. There is currently a project running on meta that can give you assistance if you need it. Good luck with your deliberations.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:28, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

I hope you now realize[edit]

who the real disruptor is. ~ DanielTom (talk) 13:48, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

That is nasty and unworthy. You didn't like it when others made such comments about you, so you should know to not make them about others. While you are entitled to your opinion, that doesn't mean that it should be shared, and especially not on my talk page.
The community debates don't get degenerate due to one person. The community needs to try consensus, not make their community project a debating forum, where an individual is a winner.  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:02, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
What are you talking about? I've never asked that any account be globally locked. Maybe you missed Cirt manipulating checkusers on Wikipedia to block Miszatomic there, based on behavior on wikis other than Wikipedia. Maybe you also missed Cirt blocking him on all wikis where he (Cirt) is an admin. Doesn't this abuse of power make you sick? Maybe not... ~ DanielTom (talk) 18:11, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
I didn't said you did. You appeared here with a snarky comment, and I responded.  — billinghurst sDrewth 19:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Trying to take your advice[edit]

Billinghurst, I am trying to take your advice.

I've taken direct actions based on your advice.

You've asked me to provide evidence.

I've provided evidence and DIFF links.

You've asked me to use community processes.

I've voluntarily taken the initiative to start those community processes.

Please understand that I do wish to listen to you and hear your advice.

But I do also think that these accounts are related, and since the former is stale (last edit from 2007), we need to use behavioral evidence and DIFF links to compare it to the latter.

-- Cirt (talk) 13:48, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

You see the words, but you don't actually listen. Take a moment and stop, read, listen, and think. You are running around trying to get someone globally locked contra to the policy. You have not allowed this person to make their case, or to dispute your commentary. You simply have blocked them out and are making accusations based on circumstance. I try to give you guidance, and ask you to be more gentle and think of the community, and progress this matter fairly. I don't see it. Let people talk, let people comment. That everyone wishes to debate point by point, is completely unhelpful. At this point of time, I see rush, and with righteousness. Please put your fairness hat on, and think how you would like to be treated, or you would like a friend to be treated in such a case.
You know that I do not like vandalism. You know that I don't like abuse of the system. You know that I try to be fair. There is investigative process and data analysis under way. The community is safe, just let process flow.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:58, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
"You know that I do not like vandalism. You know that I don't like abuse of the system. You know that I try to be fair. There is investigative process and data analysis under way." Thank you, Billinghurst, I'm glad to hear you say these things. I agree with you. I'll try to take your advice. Thank you and good luck with the investigative process and data analysis under way, -- Cirt (talk) 16:24, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Two more data points for your investigative process and data analysis = one and two. Hope that's helpful information, -- Cirt (talk) 17:05, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Locations all over the place?[edit]

How is this user able to hop all around the world like this?

Is this related?

May I file a different, separate Checkuser request for this activity?

-- Cirt (talk) 17:26, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Why do you think that a checkuser request is going to help? Those are the respective IP addresses of anonymous user(s), there is no further secret information. Never completely trust IP reverse DNS, or IP data information sources to be accurate for geo-location.  — billinghurst sDrewth 03:42, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
I just thought it was a worthwhile idea, is all. Worthy of looking into for further investigation. But those above IP addresses and the behavior pattern involved show they are all controlled by the same individual, quite likely. It'd be nice to have more active Checkuser investigation at Wikiquote to cut down on this sort of vandalism and disruption and socking, which we unfortunately have quite a bit of at Wikiquote. -- Cirt (talk) 03:51, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
I have undertaken a review of the vandalism at enWQ, and commented as such, and at this point the investigation is continuing. You know quite well from your time as a checkuser that it just converts usernames to IP addresses, and it is not a magic bullet. As said, the investigation is continuing, and jumping to conclusions and rushing to decisions is not helpful.  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:18, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
I wasn't. But if you look at the contributions from the above listed links, we at the Wikiquote community are certainly getting weary of that sort of vandalism, whoever it's coming from. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 05:32, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Understand, and from my initial investigation, we would be hitting a large ranges of a mobile telephone provider, that is dynamic ranges, and also a different large broadband provider over several ranges, and uncertain on whether static or dynamic. I haven't run collateral damage checks, nor conversed specifically with other CU to see how they are managing this vandal.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:21, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Okay, thank you. It is most confusing how they are able to appear from those locations all over the globe linked, above. -- Cirt (talk) 13:38, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Not sure of your data set and not sure that I need to be. This is irrelevant to the analysis that I have undertaken, and I don't need to explain single IP contributions, nor need to. On their own they are symptomatic, not necessarily diagnostic.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:52, 29 January 2015 (UTC)