User talk:Pathoschild

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[sbl] surgery-images

Hello

A few days ago my site was added to the spam list by Naconkantari,after Mdwyer's proposal. After reading the rules carefully I now know that this was done for good reasons and it was truly fair. As a result I contacted Mdwyer ,apologized for my mistakes,promised I would follow the rules from now on and asked him for a second chance. If you check my entry in the spam blacklist discussion you will see that Mdwyer(the one that initially requested the ban) actually proposes my removal from the spam blacklist. So i contacted Naconcantari using his discussion page (since noone answered my entry about my site)and his responce was "I'd rather have a neutral third party review this." So since I saw that you were an administrator ,and considering you to be a neutral party ,I decided to contact you :) I don't care that much if you unban my site or not. I just want a straight "yes" or "no".

Thanks in advance

Nikolaos Fostiras 19:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello Nikolaos. Please be patient; someone will review your request eventually, probably myself when I next clear open requests this week. Unfortunately, that page is affected by relentless backlog. —[admin] Pathoschild 05:50, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok thanks :) —unsigned by Nfostiras (talk) 07:38, 11 October 2006

Well sorry for bothering you again for this issue :) I am really frustrated with my case. Let me be a little more specific.I have added my request for removal at the spam blacklist at about 15September 2006 . All I wanted was just a simple answer even if it was negative.During that date many requests have been answered other negative and other positively,some even the same day.So at the end of september I decided to contact NaconKantari(the one that initially added the ban) and his reply was "I'd rather have a neutral third party review this".So I waited some more time(during which I got no reply) and contacted you and you replied me "someone will review your request eventually, probably myself . So I was happy that my issue would be finally be resolved ! But all I got was a reply to the spam blacklist saying "I've notified the administrator who blacklisted the pattern" . Come on,this guy was the one that told me that someone else and not HIM should solve this issue. I feel like you play ping pong with me or something :P Yes I know that I should be patient but my issue hasn't been solved for more than one month when other people's request took a maximum of 10 days

Thanks in advance Nfostiras 12:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)nfostiras

Hello Nfostiras. The responses you've received do seem rather circular. This is caused by my mechanical approach to the backlog, which ensures a high efficiency in terms of clearing old requests faster than new requests appear. Unfortunately, it also means that discussions on my talk page are sometimes disjointed from the requests themselves. If the blacklisting administrator doesn't comment by the next time I clear the backlog (today), I'll judge the request without. —[admin] Pathoschild 18:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC) 18:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello,
I just want to thank you for solving my issue :) —unsigned by Nfostiras 00:35, 30 October 2006.

You're welcome. —[admin] Pathoschild 04:20, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[sbl] ideamappingsuccess.com

I noticed that you have archived my unaswered question on the spam blacklist removals with this edit Revision as of 04:09, 11 October 2006 - can I please have an answer - trully I am just trying to understand and produce clean good pages...Idea Map was my first page other than a few edits to other subjects.

I put up the Idea Map page, and I tried to put an external link to the main site of the author of the first book on the subject, I got a spam warning and could not save it. I subsequently found my way to the spam blacklist removal area and posted the question why... I was pointed to the rules and told to discuss them in the idea map page disussion area, which I did point by point with no answer there.

Second I was asking any admin to take a look at it and either remove the link from the spam blacklist where I do not see how it belongs or at least let me know where I am going wrong... I did what was asked and read the rules, also answered them point by point on the idea map page

The site is the best out there for content, has lots of examples (for example see: www.ideamapping.com/maps.cfm and www.ideamapping.com/additionalmaps.cfm and www.ideamapping.com/clientmaps.cfm) and is the website of the main autority on the subject...

She has also written to you guys, which I just noticed and you gave her an answer about the discussion to move it to the spam filter. But the links were not really spam in my oppinion - as it relates to all those areas, but this might be the problem that there was not a page up for idea map when the links were added and it was hard to see it realte without research in the matter...

Link belongs in brainstorming since I added "Team idea mapping" to the ways of brainstorming, I added it there a few weeks back with no problem.and I see that was considered spam which makes no sense.

Well I am frustrated and confused, please help.Sorry about the leghty message. Lenroc1999 16:35, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello Lenroc1999. I didn't archive that discussion, although I did move it to the correct section; see Talk:Spam blacklist#ideamappingsuccess.com. I apologize for any confusion that caused. —[admin] Pathoschild 03:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Pathoschild, I was not referring to Jamies message but to my messages that were at 2 - 2.2 Jamies message you moved to the right place and I was not confused by that... but you archived my messages above that were part of a discussion on the same theme which was waiting for an answer anyway here are the 3 messages (I do not knolw how else to do it so I appologise for posting them here on your page but I think it illustrates the point) I am talking about copied from the history :

link to http://ideamappingsuccess. com is blocked HELP!!

Hi,

I feel that unjustly a link to the website Idea Mapping Success which is the site of the founder and book author of Idea Maping (which is also a new page I just added) can not be used due to the spam filter. I am wondering why as it already appears in a couple of related areas in wikipedia, however when adding it as an external link (as the site holding the most examples, both from the book, hiostorical and additional authors) to the Idea map page it triggered the spam filter.

please unblock it so it can justly be put into the page it belongs to. Please keep in mind that this was my first real article I published as well and I am willing to use any advice on how to make it better, so any help will be appreciated.

Thank you, --68.41.131.202 01:38, 5 October 2006 (UTC)Lenroc1999

Not done per [1] Naconkantari 19:37, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

please answer why not
Please explain why not? since I am new I would like to understand so I do not pester yoou guys uneccesarily. How is this a spam link? and why? who blacklisted it and under what reasons? how can i get it off the list. Please take the time to help since this is getting frustrating! Lenroc1999 13:53, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's policy on external links, then reach consensus on talk pages of those articles you want your links to be added to, and only then submit request for removal. MaxSem 14:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I did what was asked - based on rules it should not be on the black list
Thank you very much for pointing me to the policy pages MaxSem, you should get a shield for helping a newby :) - I have studied them and politely request removal of the ideamappingsuccess.com link from the spam blacklist or help to relize against what rules it is? See the point by point answer of the rules for external links at the idea map discussion page and please remove from the blaklist as it clearily does not belong there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Idea_map Thank you, Lenroc1999 20:54, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

—unsigned by Lenroc1999 (talk) 17:43, 17 October 2006

I apologize for the mistake; I've restored the discussion under 'Proposed removals'. —[admin] Pathoschild 00:49, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much,
I am sorry about the confusion as well... but I appreciate the help. Can you please let me know how to get http://ideamappingsuccess. com off the spam list?am I doing the right thing?

Thank you again, Lenroc1999 19:32, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I apologize for the delay in response. Yes, your request is the right way to go about it. —[admin] Pathoschild 18:20, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

The message that you kindly restored is been sitting on the spam restore list with no answer or action...and I am wondering if it will get an answer... This is my first wiki page and I was trying to go by the rules and actually provide some good content.Lenroc1999 22:28, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[sbl] DROHOBYCH

Hello I would like to contribute to DROHOBYCH but there is a spam protection filter for: Please remove this filter. (I did not wish to remove the generating external link because I checked it and looks like a valid and serious link) thank you —unsigned by 63.101.157.200 (talk) 15:13, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello 63.101.157.200. I apologize for the delayed response. Please provide more information: what page are you trying to edit on which project, and which URL is being blocked? —[admin] Pathoschild 18:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC) 18:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[rfl] Archival???

Hi Pathoschild, why the hell did you archive so many requests from the Requests from new languages page? They weren't all as old as you seem to think. My very own request for a North Frisian Wikipedia and Wiktionary was doe this very november! You'll understand this will make it much more difficult to get these projects approved! Please put some of then back, this borders on sheer obstruction. Steinbach (formerly Caesarion) 12:54, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello Steinbach. The discussions to archive were not selected according to age, as you can see from the box noting the proposal's status on Requests for new languages/Wikipedia North Frisian 2. I apologize if this caused you inconvenience, but I assure you that the new policy ensures that any new request will be processed much sooner and more efficiently than the current requests would have been.

Please, do start a new request at "Requests for new languages/Wikipedia North Frisian 3" (after reading the Language proposal policy). Feel free to copy the templates from your original request, which I painstakingly converted to minimize the difficulty in transitioning to the new system. —{admin} Pathoschild 17:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[rfl] Votes for new Wikisources

this and this aren't contradictory? 555 02:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

They are. The request was already open, but I haven't gotten around to copying it over to the Wikisource submission page. Feel free to do that yourself. :) —{admin} Pathoschild 02:57, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[rfl] Wikipedia Palatinate German

Hello Purodha. I see you tried to place Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Palatinate German on the main page (though you used the wrong name). That request is currently closed; where you trying to re-open discussion? —{admin} Pathoschild 03:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes - I just a second after your question saved the request. I was wondering to follow the naming of the old request or follow the suggestion of the guiding page verbatim. Apparently I did it wrong. I am not so much attempting to spur a new discussion but to suggest the proposers and supporters to go for a test drive in the Wikipedia Incubator, so as to see the real support there is. (Btw., as a potential reader, I want it to succeed and do well as well, egoistic me :-) --Purodha Blissenbach 03:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[rfl] English Wikikids

How should I progress here? It's been a month in a half and according to New Project Policy it asked someone indepedent to start a interest poll. I want to know what to do next...Can you explain? T®eebark 01:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Treebark. I don't maintain that page, so I'm not aware of the project proposal process. I suggest waiting to see if anyone will respond on the Proposals for new projects discussion page. Alternately, you can discuss it in #wikimedia on the freenode IRC server. —{admin} Pathoschild 01:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't get IRC. Do you know who maintains the page? T®eebark 01:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Nope, but they should notice your comment on the talk page.

You can connect to IRC online from Wikizine.org. Simply enter your desired username (Treebark is free), select #wikimedia from the drop-down menu, and connect. Discussion is displayed in the large box, connected users are listed on the right, and you can enter comments in the small wide box along the bottom. —{admin} Pathoschild 01:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. T®eebark 01:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Welcome. —{admin} Pathoschild 01:49, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[rfl] Wikipedia Belarusian rejected?

Would you care to explain this move? Who rejected it? Who conformed to what?

Does it have any significance that the WikiMedia is being cheated, for 2 years now, w/r to the nature of the Belarusian language, all academic sources and citations disregarded? Yury Tarasievich 08:51, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Yury Tarasievich. Please read the notice at the top of the request page stating that "This discussion was created before the implementation of the Language proposal policy, and it is incompatible with the policy. Please open a new proposal in the format this page has been converted to (see the instructions)." I'm sorry you feel that there is a conspiracy against Belarusians, but if so it had nothing to do with the closure of this request since all previous requests were closed. —{admin} Pathoschild 00:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I wasn't talking conspiracy as such. The request is 4 months old, and this is already 3rd policy to conform to, and nobody really does anything about the request, just pushing it around. Yury Tarasievich 07:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Fortunately, this policy is implemented and will not be superseded in the near future. Although it may change, no new requests will need to be retroactively closed. Requests should be processed promptly under the policy. :) —{admin} Pathoschild 07:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[rfl] Wikipedia Upper Silesian

Hi
"Denied for duplication with existing wikis or proposals" Could you explain me where is duplication, or existing wiki? Did you mean Polish Wikipedia? --Nowis 21:54, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I didn't close the request, I just added the appropriate templates. I've updated the page with more information. —{admin} Pathoschild 00:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[rfl] Congratulations!

You are the best; you transformated the Requests for new languages in a better page, in my short time as administrator I tried about the cleaning of these page, but you did it. Thanks! --Taichi - (あ！) 01:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome, and thanks for the encouragement. :) —{admin} Pathoschild 02:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Soft-blocking of TOR proxies

Hello. Given our conversation on the WikiProject on open proxies recently, would it be helpful if I gave you lists of Tor exit nodes I connect through that are not blocked at all, or hardblocked? For the ones that aren't blocked at all, I could sign once not logged in, and once logged in, anywhere. For the hardblocked ones, I could try signing somewhere other than the project they are block, or just put the information in my talkspace. Or are these links sufficient for your purposes? Armedblowfish (talk) 15:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Those lists, particularly combined with other lists I already use, are sufficient. Thank you. I'm working on ProxyDB, a proxy management system that will automatically list Tor exit nodes for soft-blocking and detect their block status on the participating wikis. Unfortunately, that project is still at least a month from completion. If you'd like to maintain the Tor subpage on Meta in the meantime, I can block them on the participating projects I administrate. —[admin] Pathoschild 18:28, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

One thing I'm confused about... depending on whether something is hardblocked, softblocked, or not blocked, what colors (or, in the code, yes/no/maybe) do I use? Armedblowfish (talk) 03:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

There's no distinction drawn between hard and soft blocks in the listings. ProxyDB will indicate hard blocks, though. —[admin] Pathoschild 03:48, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Using footnotes to show hardblocking, Armedblowfish (talk) 04:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

That's fine; you're the one maintaining the page. :) —[admin] Pathoschild 04:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

recreate Michael Laitman- RAMLAN

I can edit this page and then recreate, it haw do you thing?Ashpaa 18:21, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that page is outside the scope of Wikisource per the Inclusion policy. The content is more appropriate for Wikipedia, if it meets that project's notability guidelines. —[admin] Pathoschild 19:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

unblock Fratele lui Bonaparte

Hi Pathoschild. A few months ago, you indefinitely blocked User:Fratele lui Bonaparte, il cunosti? ([2][3]). Do you think you could unblock him now; I have reason to believe he will have cooled down by now and will not resume harassment. See it this way; you can always reblock him if things don't work out...--Theios tou Euthymiou 22:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC) (PS no, I'm not a sock of his)

It doesn't really matter whether or not you're a sockpuppet, since there are no problems with non-abusive secondary accounts. If the owner of the account will publicly state on their talk page that they intend to act in good faith from here on, I don't mind unblocking the account in goof faith. —[admin] Pathoschild 01:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! --Fratele lui Bonaparte, il cunosti? 22:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[sbl] 18speedtranny

Hi. Thanks for adding 18speedtranny to the spam blacklist [4]. Is there a delayed reaction when you add that here? I tried adding the latest removed to bypass spam blacklist Wknight94 12:06, 19 December 2006 (UTC) to my WP user page and I was able to save[5]. Isn't it supposed to stop me from saving at all? Just curious... Thanks again!  :) Wknight94 04:32, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Wknight94, and you're welcome. There is a small delay of usually less than half an hour. —{admin} Pathoschild 04:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry to be a pest but it looks like I'm still able to add 18speedtranny to my own user talk page [6]. Could it act differently depending on namespace? Am I testing this incorrectly? Wknight94 21:21, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

The spam blacklist blocks only domains and their subdomains. Any other part of the path is not filtered. Naconkantari 21:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh. Well the URL being used is a myspace URL. Does that mean blacklisting is useless for a "www.myspace.com/whatever" URL? (This particular serial spammer apparently couldn't be bothered to maintain an actual domain so they switched to myspace a few months back). I see a few entries which are more specific:

• flyingpirate\.com\/images\/phentermineonline
• www\.comunalia\.com\/replica
• www\.remus\.dti\.ne\.jp\/\~wings\/

Are you saying the path part is being ignored? Wknight94 22:07, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I've adjusted the pattern; it should block the site now. —{admin} Pathoschild 03:09, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

That did it. You, sir, are an officer and a gentleman (unless you're a woman of course...) I only wish I could see that spammer's face the first time he gets that blacklist screen!  :) Thanks again... Wknight94 12:06, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Editing

Thanks for the translation

And also thanks for copyediting. :) --Dbl2010 19:41, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) —{admin} Pathoschild 21:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for changing my vote

Hi! Can I ask why you voted against me? I'm not sure we know each other. Bastique 00:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry...Pathoschild seems to have clarified it. Bastique 14:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Albertsab. I've moved your vote to the 'support' section, since your edit summary indicates that you probably misplaced it. This isn't the only misplaced vote recently; I've reformatted the page to help prevent future confusion. :) —{admin} Pathoschild 05:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for changing my vote.--Albertsab@cawiki 07:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) —{admin} Pathoschild 22:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

thanks for moving my vote

Hello Pathoschild, many thanks for moving my  Support to Guillom from the No section to its correct place, the Yes one. Cheers, Claudi--clamengh 13:23, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) —{admin} Pathoschild 22:01, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

No, thanks!

You have a wave of thanks for fixing misplaced votes, and seem to assume that the discussion about Bastique is also misplaced? I have to disapoint you - it is not, and I am quite unhappy to return it where it is supposed to be held over and over! Bastique have realised it it but it seems you haven't. -- Goldie ± ^(talk) 16:54, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Are you referring to the discussion I moved to your talk page and linked to? I wasn't fixing a misplaced vote; see Talk:Stewards/elections 2006-2#Threaded_discussions. —{admin} Pathoschild 00:36, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Can you take a peek (Commons category)

Can you take a peek (Commons category you've updated) at the current version here. I put a parent category back in, but the annotation is one I have no clue how to fix up correctly. Tis double concern as I stumbled into this handling an anti-English rant on my talk there. Thanks // FrankB 18:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I see no problem with the page; it doesn't link to the deleted category on Wikisource. —{admin} Pathoschild 00:34, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

This was the suspected fix needed. Either he caught the words 'suspected vandalism' in my edit summary, or stumbled on it himself. My problem was in not knowing whether it was appropriate it be there at all. Some non-English text does appear on some pages. I only picked on you since you had made changes back when, and I know your handle from here and there. Thanks anyway. Have a good holiday season! // FrankB 04:21, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Updated image?

Some days ago you made this edit: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Translation_requests%2FWMF%2FOur_projects%2FEn%3A&diff=489373&oldid=486212 You replaced the normal wikipedia logo with a logo proposal from 2003. I think this was a mistake? I have changed it back. 89.98.115.21 14:43, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello anonymous. That was not a mistake; the 2003 logo proposal was originally on Meta as Wikipedia.png. Following a nomination for deletion closed 11 December 2006, I uploaded it to the Wikimedia Commons with the less ambiguous name Wikipedia schema.png. When I deleted Wikipedia.png (which was the Wikipedia schema on Meta), the Wikipedia logo that was on Commons with that name took its place. —{admin} Pathoschild 20:55, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Statistics

Hi. I was just looking over your statistics for the election, and I noticed an innacuracy regarding my nom: in the graphic consisting of this image, I see there's a small "oppose" bar under my name, but my nom closed unopposed: the only opposition was changed to neutral. I have no idea if you'd bother to fix something like that (probably not), but I thought I would mention it, in case you do want to fix it :-) Cheers, Redux 01:55, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Humm, also, Gurch's table shows that you had 4 "opposes", but I see only 3 in the election page. Did I miss something? Redux 02:21, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I assume the error in the graphic is my mistake when I made the data table, and the error in Gurch's table is an issue with the way it recognizes votes. I'll fix both after a while, to make sure I didn't miss any other errors. —{admin} Pathoschild 04:10, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Other comments

Happy Hallowe'en

Hope yours is the scariest!

Bastique 19:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I hope you have had a pleasant Halloween too. :) —[admin] Pathoschild 18:20, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

langcom wiki

Have you had developer activate import feature here or there? Import one to another and merge things by hand would be less painless to merge things by hand on both two wikis from my experience. --Aphaia 21:42, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

No, import is not enabled. It's not really needed, though; there are very few pages to import, and those have few enough authors that we can cite them in the edit summary. Since we'll need to mirror all public pages, perhaps it would be easier to enable it after all. I'll ask the developers to do so; thanks. :) —{admin} Pathoschild 22:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

XFF feed

I'll very appreciate you with more information/pointers about XFF feed you mentioned on RfD. Now we have a troublesome AOL anon on Japanese Wikinews ... --Aphaia 17:44, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Aphaia. X-Forwarded-For (XFF) is a special header sent by AOL to the Wikimedia Foundation. This header provides us with the user's real IP address, instead of the address of the AOL proxy they are connecting through. Blocking AOL proxy users should now be as effective as blocking a normal dynamic IP address. For more information, see XFF project or ask in #wikimedia-tech on the freenode IRC server. —{admin} Pathoschild 20:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your information! I'll bring it up to the community to consider. Aphaia 08:14, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

18speed tranny (again - sorry)

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