Abstract Wikipedia

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This is a proposal for a new Wikimedia sister project.
Abstract Wikipedia and Wikilambda (working titles, to be decided by the community)
community decision
Status of the proposal
Statusunder discussion
Details of the proposal
Project descriptionMany Wikipedia language editions have large gaps in knowledge. We want to close these gaps by allowing to create and maintain content in one place and allow the Wikipedias to use this content if they choose so. This will allow more people to create, maintain, and read more knowledge in more languages. In order to do this, we need to represent the content in a way that can be translated to many different natural languages. We do this by introducing a new project, Wikilambda, that allows to create, maintain, catalogue and evaluate functions as a new form of knowledge the communities work on. This will allow completely new use cases, and allow more people to share in more forms of knowledge.
Is it a multilingual wiki?one multilingual wiki
Potential number of languagesmultilingual, in the same way as Wikidata
Proposed taglineA multilingual Wikipedia and a wiki for functions
Proposed URLdepends on the name the community chooses
Technical requirements
New features to requiresee technical plan
Development wikisee technical plan
Interested participants
see talk page

Proposal

This proposal consists of two parts: Abstract Wikipedia and Wikilambda.

The goal of Abstract Wikipedia is to let more people contribute to more knowledge that can be read in more languages. Abstract Wikipedia is an extension of Wikidata. In Abstract Wikipedia, people can create and maintain Wikipedia articles in a language-independent way. A Wikipedia in a language can take this language-independent article and translate it into its language automatically. The translation is done by code.

Wikilambda is a new Wikimedia project that allows to create and maintain code. This is useful in many different ways. It provides a catalog of all kind of functions that anyone can call, write, maintain, and use. It also provides code that translates the language-independent article from Abstract Wikipedia into the language of a Wikipedia. This allows everyone to read the article as if it was written in their language. Wikilambda will use knowledge about words and entities from Wikidata.

This will get us closer to a world where everyone can share in the sum of all knowledge.

Background / supporting material / existing discussion

An article in the Signpost provides a more detailed introduction to the idea. The material below - research papers, videos of talks, prototype software - offers a lot of detail. A detailed draft plan for the development of Wikilambda is also available.

Wikimedia community discussions

Paper

Videos

Note that the two long videos are rather redundant to each other.

Further reading

Proposed by

Denny Vrandečić is founder of Wikidata, co-founder of Semantic MediaWiki, first administrator and bureaucrat of the Croatian Wikipedia, community-elected member of the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation 2015-2016.

Alternative names

Wikilambda is just a project name. One of the first tasks of the projects will be to come up with the communities with a name for the project and that is available as a domain name. Some options include Wikifunction, Wikicode, Wikialgorithm, but I am sure the community will have even better ideas.

Related projects / proposals

The following projects would be most affected by Wikilambda, but all Wikimedia Projects will be able to call functions in Wikilambda.

  • Wikidata - suggested to store abstract Content in Wikidata next to the item pages
  • Wikipedia - suggested to allow to display Content from Wikidata for missing articles

There are numerous proposals that cover aspects of Wikilambda and that have been made over the years (going back to 2001). The large number of related proposals is another indicator of the wish to get this done. In this proposal we aim to extract the common goals and learn from the other proposals:

Domain names

Depends on the name.

Mailing list link

Demos

Support and discussion

tl;dr: express your support on the talk page

We don't really have an effective process for starting new projects, so I am trying to follow a similar path that we took for Wikidata back then. And back then it all started with Markus Krötzsch, me and others talking about the idea to anyone who would listen until everyone was bored of hearing it, trying out prototypes, and then talking about it even more, and improving all of it constantly based on your feedback. And then making increasingly concrete proposals until we managed to show some kind of consensus from the communities, you, and the Foundation to actually do it. And then, well, do it.

The goal is to show interest in making this goal a reality, and then go to the Board of Trustees and ask them to commit to this project (in rough strokes - the details of the proposal will be further adjusted with you). But in order for the Board to confidently agree, we need to show support for the project.

If you support the goals of this proposal, please express your support on the talk page.

Also discussions and reservations regarding the goal of the proposal or the project plan should be raised there.

Just as with Wikipedia and Wikidata and our other projects, this is a crazy idea at first. Maybe even more crazy than our other projects. And the only way there is a chance of us being successful is, if, eventually, thousands of us work together on it. The only way this worked in the past is by being open, start out collaboratively, discuss the path forward, and work towards creating the project together.