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bionet-skola.com
bionet-skola.com
Spam under external links on south slavic Wikies. Private Site of sr:Корисник:Тснена --Seha 12:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Xaman79 spam
User:Xaman79
User:Algarvean
algarvedigital.pt
{{linksummary|allgarve.pt}}
algarve.com.pt
observatoriodoalgarve.com
visitalgarve.pt
{{linksummary|rtalgarve.pt}}
algarve.fm
correiodamanha.pt
forum.astroempires.com
ccr-alg.pt
Apparently socking to spam travel/tourism sites. I'm not sure if any of these need to be blacklisted at this point, but putting it up for investigation & consideration. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 13:40, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
- Removed allgarve.pt (official site for the community), rtalgarve.pt (official tourist info), which are "legit".
- ccr-alg.pt is not DNS'd to any site, but ccdr-alg.pt (suggested by Google Chrome) is an official site for a portuguese government agency (Regional Development and Coordinating Commission of the Algarve).
- correiodamanha.pt looks to be a website for a newspaper or something.
- astroempires.com (and forum.-) is a browser game, nothing related to Portugal or Algarve so far ;-)
- All the other links seem commercial.
- Alphos [bother me] 04:40, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Added — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 22:02, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
tutorialspoint.com curcumventing blacklist
- origional meta Blacklisting Talk:Spam_blacklist/Archives/2007-03#tutorialspoint.com
- recent whitelisting declined discussion (June 09) this has some links to previos declines ans discussions.
Seems one of the IP's in the above decline discussion placed a link[1], which after checking appears to be this user (dzone.com/links/users/profile/270428.html). profile identifies this user page as tutorialspoint.com, which every page he creates linke to some tutorialspoint.com tutorial. Seems he has created his own little tutorialspoint.co spam factory on dzone.com.
here are the curcumventing links;
- http://www.dzone.com/links/the_best_tutorial_on_ruby_on_rails.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/scriptaculous_tutorial_2.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/jdbc_tutorial_4.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/java_tutorial_6.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/understanding_multithreaded_programming_with_java.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/a_jdbc_tutorial_for_beginners.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/exception_handling_in_java_2.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/understanding_regular_expressions_in_java.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/accessing_database_using_python.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/sending_email_in_different_format_using_java_emai.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/understanding_serialization_in_java.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/learn_java_by_examples.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/learning_unix_was_never_so_easy_before.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/cgi_using_python_programming.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/learn_java_collection_framework.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/108520.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/a_complete_tutorial_on_ruby_on_rails.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/simple_tutorial_on_ajax_technology.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/a_complete_tutorial_on_mysql.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/a_complete_tutorial_on_mysql.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/a_basic_tutorial_on_gsm_technology.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/a_nice_tutorial_on_rss.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/an_online_image_processing_its_simple_and_useful.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/urlspedia_submit_your_web_pages_in_web_directory.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/if_you_are_moving_towards_management_get_pmp_cert.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/create_cool_effects_using_css20.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/small_tutorial_on_web_services.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/learn_xmlrpc_in_simple_steps.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/image_effect_creation_using_css_2.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/mysql_useful_functions_and_clauses.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/create_amzaing_visual_effects_using_web_20_scripts.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/a_simplified_php_tutorial_for_beginners.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/scriptaculous_drag_n_drop_tutorial.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/scriptaculous_tutorial.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/file_uploading_using_rails.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/ajax_on_rails_tutorials.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/unix_makefile_tutorial.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/learn_ajax_step_by_step.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/prototype_framework_explained_with_examples.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/prototype_and_ajax_tutorial.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/json_support_available_with_prototype_framework.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/a_complete_guide_for_ruby_progammers.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/implement_web_services_using_ruby_in_simple_way.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/ruby_socket_programming_tutorial.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/ruby_on_rails_21x_scaffolding.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/ruby_on_rails_21x_unit_testing.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/a_complete_guide_for_javascript_progammers.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/ruby_on_rails_21_4.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/complete_tutorial_on_python_programming_language.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/a_short_tutorial_on_basic_uml.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/learn_cgi_programming_using_python.html
- http://www.dzone.com/links/java_tutorial_in_simple_and_easy_steps.html
Heres a regexed list for ease of listing;
- \bdzone\.com/links/the_best_tutorial_on_ruby_on_rails\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/scriptaculous_tutorial_2\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/jdbc_tutorial_4\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/java_tutorial_6\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/understanding_multithreaded_programming_with_java\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/a_jdbc_tutorial_for_beginners\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/exception_handling_in_java_2\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/understanding_regular_expressions_in_java\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/accessing_database_using_python\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/sending_email_in_different_format_using_java_emai\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/understanding_serialization_in_java\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/learn_java_by_examples\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/learning_unix_was_never_so_easy_before\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/cgi_using_python_programming\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/learn_java_collection_framework\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/108520\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/a_complete_tutorial_on_ruby_on_rails\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/simple_tutorial_on_ajax_technology\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/a_complete_tutorial_on_mysql\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/a_complete_tutorial_on_mysql\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/a_basic_tutorial_on_gsm_technology\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/a_nice_tutorial_on_rss\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/an_online_image_processing_its_simple_and_useful\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/urlspedia_submit_your_web_pages_in_web_directory\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/if_you_are_moving_towards_management_get_pmp_cert\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/create_cool_effects_using_css20\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/small_tutorial_on_web_services\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/learn_xmlrpc_in_simple_steps\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/image_effect_creation_using_css_2\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/mysql_useful_functions_and_clauses\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/create_amzaing_visual_effects_using_web_20_scripts\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/a_simplified_php_tutorial_for_beginners\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/scriptaculous_drag_n_drop_tutorial\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/scriptaculous_tutorial\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/file_uploading_using_rails\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/ajax_on_rails_tutorials\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/unix_makefile_tutorial\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/learn_ajax_step_by_step\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/prototype_framework_explained_with_examples\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/prototype_and_ajax_tutorial\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/json_support_available_with_prototype_framework\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/a_complete_guide_for_ruby_progammers\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/implement_web_services_using_ruby_in_simple_way\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/ruby_socket_programming_tutorial\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/ruby_on_rails_21x_scaffolding\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/ruby_on_rails_21x_unit_testing\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/a_complete_guide_for_javascript_progammers\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/ruby_on_rails_21_4\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/complete_tutorial_on_python_programming_language\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/a_short_tutorial_on_basic_uml\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/learn_cgi_programming_using_python\.html\b
- \bdzone\.com/links/java_tutorial_in_simple_and_easy_steps\.html\b
thanks --Hu12 20:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Do we really have to do each page individually? Is there any good stuff on that domain? — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- Now that you mention it. From their About page(dzone.com/links/about.jsp);
::About DZone
- DZone is a free link-sharing community for developers
- anyone can submit new links to the incoming queue
- members vote on upcoming links to determine what gets promoted
- everyone can browse, search and comment on links
Matrikon
See also WikiProject_Spam case
matrikon.com
matrikonopc.de
matrikonanalytics.com
matrikonopc.com
opctraining.com
redirect to matrikonopc.com
opcsupport.com
Iframe to matrikonopc.com
- Cross wiki spamming
- zh:Special:Contributions/OPCExpert
- es:Special:Contributions/Dpc1962
- de:Special:Contributions/206.75.46.248
- fr:Special:Contributions/206.75.46.248
- es:Special:Contributions/206.75.46.248
- es:Special:Contributions/206.75.46.251
- de:Special:Contributions/206.75.46.251
I've omitted the en.wikipedia accounts, as they can be found in the link to the case above. Thanks, --Hu12 22:58, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
- Added — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:42, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
tunisia.com
tunisia.com
See en:User_talk:Brandon#Desiphral and en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Desiphral/Archive; there is a massive sock ring adding this spam link to articles in many wikipedias for pay. Triplestop 03:13, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- I just brought this up on IRC, I have a list of like 10 different links he was spamming. Brandon 03:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- Other domains:
moneyandmarkets.com
uncommonwisdomdaily.com
{{linksummary|weissgroupinc.com}}
investwithanedge.com
dentalinsurancecare.com
noclaimsdiscount.co.uk
goodtherapy.org
sunglassesuk.com
grayboxx.com
supergreenme.com
inctime.com
cozycot.com
web4desi.com
- — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 17:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- Please see [2] and [3] for further info. As Desiphral is a sysop, the matter is also being discussed on stewards-l. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 17:37, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- At [4], we see that Desiphral profited from the spamming. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 17:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- Added — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 19:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
cru.ms
cru.ms
URL redirector/shortener. 98.122.183.67 13:07, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- Added — df| 13:47, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
4 referral/redirect domains
mediumurl.com
Shorty.im
58msg.cn
msplinks.com
Examples [5][6][7]. thanks--Hu12 16:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- added another,[8][9]--Hu12 17:18, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- Added the 4th. msplinks.com are redirects from outgoing links placed in MySpace profile comments. --Hu12 18:15, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
- Added — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 21:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
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The LinkWatchers report domains meeting the following criteria:
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Proposed removals
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This section is for proposing that a website be unlisted; please add new entries at the bottom of the section.
Remember to provide the specific domain blacklisted, links to the articles they are used in or useful to, and arguments in favour of unlisting. Completed requests will be marked as See also /recurring requests for repeatedly proposed (and refused) removals. The addition or removal of a domain from the blacklist is not a vote; please do not bold the first words in statements. |
www.travel2macedonia.com.mk
travel2macedonia.com.mk
makedonija.name
makedonija.cjb.net
Dear Sir/Madam, admins od wikipedia,
Mr. Dirk Beetstra pointed to request this spam removal at this location.
1 year ago, the following URL www.travel 2 macedonia.com.mk was added to wikipedia spam lists. It was our, but not direct mistake, because we hired some non-professional agency for promotion, which as later understood make the success of adding this tourism portal in the wikipedia spam list. Which we, as an agency - do not think we deserve it.
We have fired this guys, that were doing this stuff... but unfortunatelly we can stil see when searching google :( spam/meta wikipedia and this web portal listed in it. We want to inform you that this web site has a great significance for international promotion of tourism in Republic of Macedonia, as well as many other things, providing many usefull information and many services.
Thank You! With Respect,
Mr. Goran Atanasovski travel2macedonia manager contact(AT)travel 2 macedonia.com.mk — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 77.28.10.119 (talk)
- Wikipedia isn't for promoting tourism, it is for neutral encyclopedic content. If the link is removed from the blacklist it will still probably not be wanted in articles.
- The Google hit (ranked 12 in my search) links to the COIBot report.
- One of the accounts involved in the spamming of the link was en:User:Gorco. Other links spammed by that user was makedonija.name and makedonija.cjb.net. makedonija.cjb.net now redirects to makedonija.name. The registrant of makedonija.name is a Mr. Goran Atanasovski. Is that too your website?
Dear Sir,
Yes - you are right Wikipedia does not promote tourism. As we are turning into a tourism agency, we are just requesting the link to be removed from the Wikipedia spam blacklist. We do not have a request the same URL to be added in the wikipedia articles (unless wikipedia admins have different opinion - since I have tried avoiding political conflicts with it).
I may have not explaind very well yesterday. An young guy from an agency was giving us support and instructions on how we promote the web site, which at that time it was not known. What we have done, I know we have violeted wikipedia terms - but it's been 1 year after and I just want to be removed - since it's a URL of significant value.
In addition I send you couple of articles (unfortunately they are written in Macedonian) to proove that this portal is of great value: - http://tocka.com.mk/vest.php?vest=12876&action=search - http://it.com.mk/index.php/Vesti/Makedonija/Patuvajte-vo-Makedonija,-nov-portal-za-turisti If you are requesting, I can arrange english translations. Also we have many web site linking it here in Macedonia, such as the Macedonian Chambers of Commerce.
About the other web site - I'm just the registrant (makedonija.name domain) and host (for a friend - who doesn't have a C.C.) this has been some 3-4 years ago. I was using his account, because I didn't had my own en:User:Gorco (I still do not have), and I really don't know what he has been doing with his domain here. It is very important to point - that these two web sites do not occur in connection (except that I've got free advertising on it). If you can see, the IP address of the web sites is the same as well as many other linked to the same host account.
My special request is just to be removed from the spam list. it is a tourism portal, and I really do not wish to be listed in a same category as some warez, p*rn and etc...
I will not try to put in any of the articles, unless I got a permission from any wikipedia administrators like you (which I will not ask in the following 2 years for sure).
Thank you for your time. With the best regards, Goran
- If you are not going to place the link in the next two years, then why do you request removal from the blacklist now? EdBever 07:52, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Dear EdBever,
We just belleive that travel2macedonia as a term and domain occurs in connection with the terms spam and we honestly beleive that there is a possibility for the google engine to block it. When speak of blocking I speak of development of PR as well as google positioning. We really will not try to add this site anywhere here in Wikipedia unless you claim it is relevant to be added.
With regards, Mr. Atanasovski
- Due to past problems with excessive linking to this domain, I do not believe this request should be fulfilled. However, if you believe that links to your domain will enhance the content of our projects, you should suggest inclusion of the link on the relevant talk page. In addition, some wikis have WikiProjects (like the English Wikipedia here). If there is a project for a subject area related to your domain, you can request that the project review the link. If such a project, or trusted, high-volume editors support the use of your links because of its value on our projects, I'm sure the request will be carefully considered and your domain may well be removed.
- Until such time, this request is
Declined. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 13:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Dear Mike,
I really do not see a reason after all this explainigs, why this action cannot be completed. We are aware of what has happened in the past, and I have mentioned it that I do not want the web site to be added anywhere on the Wikipedia. The problem is that we were directly added to spam list, without even been warned that we brake any rules.
YOu know is very, very different when you get a direct globe, instead of being warned first. If we were warned and then countinuing the same, I would never even asked for this, please have this in mind.
We are aware that the Wikipedia terms have been broken in the past. the same portal has other international .com domain. If we were a stubboarn people we could've made linking with it again, pretending that we are not aware of this problem, but we don't want to because know we know more about the spam procedure and that wikipedia is not a link directory.
We just want this url to be removed from the Wikipedia Spam list (we do not required anything else). Since many listings appear on many search engines. As I have spoken before, this website is developing into a country's main tourism portal and it's really a non-sense if it occurs with blocked/spam lists such as many p*rn, warez, malware website.
As you can see it for yourself, the website is promoting a country. You have my word that the same url will not be added to wikipedia.
Hope you will understand.
www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Main_Page
Hi!
As you can see here, the domain is blocked globally, but the main page is unblocked locally at en. (Well, you won't see the local whitelisting after my change, so:
- from w:en:MediaWiki_talk:Spam-whitelist/Log:
- [whitelisted main page] per arbcom allowed consensus (mainpage only) [10] / [11] / [12] )
Recently there was a whitelisting request for the main page at w:de, too.[13]
So in my opinion, it's the best to fuse all that by creating/modifying a global block, which leaves the main page unblocked globally. Then we don't need further local whitelist entries.
I'll modify the present entry now and just wanted to explain the reason for that. If there are any serious objections, feel free to revert my modification. -- seth 23:08, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
- Should that be /wiki/Main_Page?
sulekha.com
sulekha.com
Sulekha is the Indian equivalent of Blogspot (among other things), and links to it, where inappropriate, could easily be handled by XLinkBot or equivalent. A domain-wide blacklist is gratuitous and unnecessary. Like the handful of blogs (maintained by academics, etc.) that are notable enough and find occasional use as references, the same is the case with Sulekha — for example, Rajiv Malhotra's articles posted on Sulekha are cited in various scholarly works. Blacklisting it globally on Mediawiki is not required; right now I'm having trouble even saving a page to my own sandbox in userspace! Shreevatsa 16:06, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
- This was blacklisted due to massive spamming. I'd suggest whitelisting where specific legitimate uses can be found. Thanks. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 16:46, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, it was reported along with various clearly-spammy domains, in a section called "Adsense spammer", all of which were blocked en masse, but if you look at the actual spamsearch results for sulekha.com, you will see that most (all?) of the links are not adsense spam, but at most unreliable sources. This is consistent with what I said above. It's not "spam". Shreevatsa 17:07, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
- Looking more closely, I cannot find any link that could be classified as spam; for several of them (across wikis) it is even possible to justify the external link. In any case, these links, where questionable, can be removed through the usual processes (discussion on the article's talk page and so on). The report doesn't come with the dates when the links were inserted into the articles, but is quite likely that many of the links were in fact added to articles through the normal process (i.e., by article-writers and not by spammers) before this domain snuck into the blacklist along with spam websites. Shreevatsa 17:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) Any updates on this? To reiterate, this domain has been erroneously classified as spam, and the history of its use shows mostly legitimate uses, and hardly any spam. Shreevatsa 13:57, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- Looking at User:COIBot/LinkReports/sulekha.com, I don't see the "mostly legitimate uses, and hardly any spam" - thus
Declined again. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:54, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for (finally) replying. I don't see why you say "declined again", since this is the first time you've given a reason, and that reason is just "I don't see what you see". I'm disappointed by the heavy-handed way in which this process seems to work, and the lack of assuming good faith. (It is understandable, given what you seem to mostly encounter, but not a good thing.) If you disagree that you don't see mostly legitimate uses, why not ask for a clarification instead of laying down your opinion? Is it even possible that anything you read here will convince you against your pre-formed judgement? By what twisted logic does the fact that the link has been used in many articles itself make it spam? I have no vested interest in this and am not associated with the website in any way; I was just editing an article in my sandbox (legitimate use) and was surprised when I couldn't save the page and an error message came up.
- Anyway, I was hoping not to have to do all this work, but since you disagree, let's look at all entries in User:COIBot/LinkReports/sulekha.com and you can tell me why you think the domain should be on the spam blacklist. I've marked as legitimate use those that were part of the normal editing process and cannot be considered disruptive or spam — it is possible to disagree whether a better link/source can be found, but they're not unambiguously spam. In many articles you will see that they were added by established users and were not considered unwanted: on the contrary, they were deemed useful to the article for several years, until they were removed simply because of the domain getting added to the blacklist. Most of the cases where they were unwanted are simply those of overenthusiastic fans trying to add photos (and failing), not any sort of promotion that would require blacklisting. Here are the 78 entries of COIBot's LinkReport:
- w:en:User:WWGB (whitelisted) to w:en:Mantrakodi added link to information at lizzie-cherian.sulekha.com/blog/post/2004/12/the-manthrakodi.htm , article later deleted: legitimate use
- w:en:User:220.226.49.23 to w:en:Preeta Rao added link to photos on Sulekha, along with Wordpress, Blogspot and India Forums: non-specific spam
- w:hi:User:210.212.158.179 to hi:हिंदू धर्म के ग्रंथ added link to santoshg.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/01/brief-sketch-of-ancient-indian-literature.htm , where it is useful and remained for two years until you removed it today: legitimate use
- w:hi:सदस्य:पूर्णिमा_वर्मन, a user with ~29000 edits on the wiki, to hi:योगसूत्र added link as ref: legitimate use
- Bot, copyvio article, now deleted.
- w:en:User:Anoopkn to w:en:Chanthupottu (a movie) added link to reviews at MusicIndiaOnline, IMDb, Sulekha and Moutshut: legitimate use
- w:en:User:Devadaru to w:en:Jeffrey J. Kripal added link to article at prof-somnath-bhattacharyya.sulekha.com/blog/post/2002/12/i-kali-s-child-i-psychological-and-hermeneutical.htm : legitimate use
- w:en:User:Ajcfreak to w:en:User:SBOA School & Junior College added ref to yellowpages.sulekha.com/(school): legitimate use
- w:en:User:59.95.106.232 to w:en:Red-vented Bulbul added link to dkvblog.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/12/nature-note-from-mhow-catching-the-red-bottomed-thief.htm : legitimate use
- Adding actor's photo from Sulekha to w:de:Narcotics Anonymous: Vandalism
- w:en:User:Auawise to w:en:Green marketing added ref to article at poojas22.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/08/green-marketing.htm : although it has "marketing" in its name, legitimate use :-)
- Same as above: legitimate use
- w:en:User:Bluesswing to w:en:Vikas Khanna added link to food.sulekha.com/recipes/video/vikaskhanna/310.htm : link now dead, but quite likely legitimate use
- Bot reverting removal of link: legitimate use
- Bot reverting removal of link: legitimate use
- Whitelisted user reverting vandalism: legitimate use
- w:en:User:Ekabhishek, a user with ~32000 edits, to w:en:Kamleshwar added link to article at surinusgaonkarsays.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/01/kamleshwar-an-honourable-man.htm: legitimate use
- w:en:User:Forestgarden to w:en:Alternative education added link to ramesh-n-rao.sulekha.com/blog/post/2001/04/gurukulas-where-students-aren-t-merely-schooled.htm : legitimate use
- Whitelisted w:en:User:Kwsn on w:en:Varna in Hinduism reverting vandalism: legitimate use
- w:en:User:59.95.106.81 to w:en:Indian Roller added link : legitimate use. And so on, I'll just summarise the rest:
- (Reverting): Legitimate
- Movie review. Not legitimate?
- Use as ref in expanding article: Legitimate
- Link to article about bird: Legitimate
- Photo on article about actor: Not legitimate
- Movie review.
- Contentious link: Not legitimate
- Formatting article: Legitimate
- Fixing link: Legitimate
- The next 15 links are all to the same blog, so (although not commercial spam) possibly self-promotion (giving you the benefit of the doubt)
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- Link to photo in article about singer: Not legitimate.
- Movie review.
- Link to photo in article about movie.
- Ref for article about temple: Legitimate
- Same as above: Legitimate
- Movie review.
- Well-intentioned ref, though unreliable: still, not spam
- Useless link. (Neither spam nor legitimate.)
- Link to photo of movie actor.
- Ref for school: Legitimate use
- Whitelisted user adding link to bio: Legitimate use
- Link to photo of actor.
- Adding refs: Legitimate use
- Whitelisted user (admin) adding ref for school: Legitimate use
- Article about museum: Legitimate use
- Link to photo of actor.
- Link to photo of (same) actor, among others.
- Link to photo of actor
- Link to photo of actor
- Image added by user who undid it immediately
- Used as ref for expanding article about person: Legitimate use
- Same as above: Legitimate use
- Link to photo of actor
- Link to photo of actor
- Link to photo of actor
- Used as ref for expanding article about place: Legitimate use
- Link to photo of actor
- Link to photo of actor
- Link to photo of actor
- Used as ref for place article: Legitimate use
- Used as ref for place article: Legitimate use
- Having to comment out used reference because of this blacklist: Legitimate edit
- Movie review
- And finally, adding link to Sulekha in article about Sulekha: Legitimate use!
- There you go. That's about three dozen, or about half, of legitimate uses, the rest well-intentioned or harmless, easily handled attempts, and certainly no "massive spamming". And for some reason this COIbot's linkreport doesn't include all the entries that were in the older report, such as the clearly useful (and legitimate) links at (on w:en) Gokarnanatheshwara Temple, Rangeya Raghav, Ramavriksha Benipuri, Camille Bulcke, Subhadra Kumari Chauhan, Gopal Singh Nepali, etc., and most of the links on other wikis. There's no trace of the "large-scale spamming campaign" or "unquestionably abusive behaviour [...] across multiple projects" that were used for blocking this domain in the first place, using this same evidence that points otherwise! The use of Sulekha is not any worse than that of several that we don't have domain-wide blacklists for, like Geocities, Tripod, Blogspot, or Wordpress — and, like those, there's no compelling reason to blacklist this.
- Please, can we have reasoned discussion this time, instead of summary dismissal? I've already wasted too much time on this for something that was just a minor inconvenience and something I shouldn't care about, simply because of outrage at the unfair terms of this engagement and its dependence on historical accident. :p Shreevatsa 05:16, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
(outdent) User:Mike.lifeguard pointed that I didn't mention the most relevant point: that only legitimate uses for it can be found on most of the wikis it has been used on. Again looking at this list, all the unwanted links ("spam") have been on en.wiki, while there have been legitimate uses on bg.wiki (Bulgarian), de.wiki (German), en.wiktionary, en.wikinews, hi.wiki (Hindi), hi.wikibooks, ja.wiki (Japanese), kn.wiki (Kannada), mk.wiki (Macedonian), ml.wiki (Malayalam), new.wiki (Newari), pl.wiki (Polish), ps.wiki (Pushto), simple.wiki (Simple English), ta.wiki (Tamil), te.wiki (Telugu), th.wiki (Thai), tr.wiki (Turkish). (Likely legitimate use, but links now dead: ca.wiki (Catalan), eo.wiki (Esperanto), it.wiki (Italian), vi.wiki (Vietname).) So, as there has been no spam across multiple projects, it is enough to blacklist it (when/if it becomes necessary) on specific ones. Thanks, Shreevatsa 17:17, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
- That is the information we were looking for. I think we can remove the domain on that basis. I'll ask someone else to review this as well. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:25, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
squidoo.com
squidoo.com
I wanted to add {{published|author=Squidoo|date=|url=http://www.squidoo.com/microwave-magic|title=Microwaved DVD|org=[http://www. squidoo.com/Squidoo]}} to the talk pages of Commons:File:Burned DVD, microwaved to ensure total elimination of private data..jpg and Commons:File:Microwaved disks-cover fractal-big Δ0048.JPG because they are used on a subpage. Maybe it is OK that this webpage is on the spamlist, but there should be a possibility at least for Commons admins to save pages even they include spam links; May between some kind of codec like <spamlink></spamlink> or something the like. May you can contact me on my Commons talk page if the voting or whatever is finished. thanks --D-Kuru 10:53, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
- User:COIBot/LinkReports/squidoo.com — Personally I do not think that this link should be removed, however, if you add the domain on the commons whitelist you will be able to use it on commons whithout any problem. I'm going to mark this as
Deferred to Wikimedia Commons whitelist. — df| 12:36, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
tallshoes4men.com
tallshoes4men.com
May I request the un-blacklisting of my website http://www.tallshoes4men.com from from the wiki page elevator shoes. About 2 or 3 years ago I made the mistake of posting a useless link directing to my website. I was unfamiliar with the web and I now fully understand Wikipedia's code of Conduct. I will not violate it again. I now have a step by step picture page that is informative to the wikipedia user on the process of Handmade shoe making. http://www.tallshoes4men.com/high-end-elevator-shoes.html This will be my only link. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.24.76.248 (talk • contribs) — df| 14:06, 18 September 2009 (UTC).
- The link is not blacklisted on meta but it is on the English Wikipedia. You will have to ask there to request un-listing. Deferred to the English Wikipedia Spam backlist. — df| 14:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
echn.com.cn
echn.com.cn
Hello, I am new to this. I post this question to here before, but I can't find it now.If I am putting on the wrong places please let me know. Thank you :)
When I am editing a entry regarding to research about "Chinese hand-made embroidery", I put a research centre's official website into the reference list.However It's stated that the reference website is in the blacklist.Then I research the blacklist,the site "www.echn.com.cn" is not in there. I am just confused......Is it means the site was blocked in chinese wiki?I was told that when you are quoted something,you have to put the resource into the reference list...but why it's so hard.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.242.159.36 (talk • contribs) — df| 14:42, 18 September 2009 (UTC).
- Hello, the link
echn.com.cnis not blacklisted on meta but it is on zh.wikipedia. They blacklisted the link with the comment 湘绣广告. You should ask on zh:MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. Best regards, — df| 14:46, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
albumfototrenes.idohost.com
albumfototrenes.idohost.com
Hi!
albumfototrenes.idohost.com contains photographs of the Spanish rail, which can complement and illustrate many wikipedia articles. Some items in ferrocarriles.wiki.com (eg. ferrocarriles.wikia.com/wiki/Renfe_Serie_269) or en.wikipedia.org (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talgo) contain references to albumfototrenes.idohost.com, being very useful and without any problem. For these reasons, I request the removal from the blacklist. Thank you very much.
88.16.144.12 00:05, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
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