Abstract Wikipedia/Wiki of functions naming contest/Wikiuniverse
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- Proposed by Amire80
- This would rather fit Meta in my opinion. It does not address the purpose of the project well enough. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 16:40, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- I also agree that this is too broad in scope (according to the description above that would encompass also the long-term goal and all existing wikis, or that it could bring a confusion: "Wikimedia" is already the dedicated name for this "universe".
- The concept is not to generate everything, but just being allowed to generate some contents that could be brought to existing wikis, at least to create much better articles than very poor "stubs" (also frequently partly translated or with frequent problems of presentation, navigatibility, usability, accessibility: the need is evident from small and medium wikis that have a very slow and complex startup, even after the initial test in Incubator
- We've all seen problems caused by the fact that these small wikis could not easily be sourced reliably while being able to source at least interesting features, which would be immediately usable by natives
- This would greatly help their understanding and then improve that content and adapt it to their culture and current local communities of interest and even help develop their interest in many topics for which they have no clue or that find them to difficult to start with, while also benefiting of the experience gained in other languages, and even allowing mutual cooperation for administering these wikis, possibly even in talk pages to create more buinds between communities that have difficulties to talk each other and understand a sufficient common language). It would also allow easier cooperation across wikis to find more experienced admins to solve complex issues (notably those related to NPOV, and respect of peoples, while also setting a better limit to avoid conflicts of interests by the few experienced users that can decide against more the legitimate needs of modest contributors so that everyone can find a suitable space of work and cooperation also with their own sets of cultural interests). but even this larger goal can describe what could be Wikipedia abstract later, which will still be a part of our existing "Wikimedia" universe. clearly the goal for now is jsut being allwoed to compose several sources to generate modest contents (probably not more than a simple sentence or just a single phrase, such as to help build a navigatable structure, or sets of nav templates, or an index of topics, a reliable set of categories and all the necessary and suitable interwiki links, or a set of disambiguation pages appropriate for each language but still pointing to relevant stubs pages to be later completed; for this reason the initial pags would be bot-generated but still editable: we've seen that method used effectively in a rare language, notably Waray-Waray, except that this is made by a bot controlled by just a single user and it is not so open; instead of posting "stubs pages" the stubs could use templates with their content fed and basic presentation from functions but still in a form correct for the target language; but the Waray-Wray wiki is now usable by its community which now update it with less efforts but still with all the set of links to other more populated wikis and more possible sources in various languages). This could also be used to greatly accelerate the development of Wiktionnary (with basic definitions for some meanings/lemmas, while the local community would add their own language-specific expressions, or could find examples of use and citations in their culture to support each lemma; as well they could benefit from data-driven generated contents such as conjugations, declensions, transliterations, usable input methods; in Wikipedia thee data in Wikitionanry could have a Wikitionnary-based spellchecker, and we could create out own automatic translartos with smarter intelligence to help others understanding what is happening in the small wiki where problems are reported by very few users but difficult to assert). verdy_p (talk) 23:11, 18 September 2020 (UTC)