Communication Projects Group/Meetings/2007-05-30

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Accurate timestamps - at last! The system needed a reboot (or, I should say, the lightning rebooted the system).

May 30 21:36:33 <seanw>	Okay, so we begin: the main purpose of this meeting is to bring Sandy up to speed with what we';ve been up to and let her give her opinions on our structural changes.
May 30 21:36:43 <seanw>	Martinp23, oho, new automatic functionality?
May 30 21:36:48 <seanw>	So I guess we just wait for her to arriv.e
May 30 21:36:50 <loco085>	hi Wiki_Blue  :)
May 30 21:36:54 <seanw>	cary-office, tell her we're all waiting on her ;)
May 30 21:37:00 <cary-office>	She should acknowledge our existence
May 30 21:37:07 <schiste>	Hmmm?
May 30 21:37:24 <Martinp23>	seanw: No - I was just seeing how many messages I recieved in one day by logging all channels, and haven't turned it off yet ;)
May 30 21:38:11 <cary-office>	She's having connectivity issues
May 30 21:38:13 <cary-office>	hang on
May 30 21:38:55 <seanw>	k
May 30 21:39:08 <seanw>	Martinp23, all my 70-od channels log all the time :D
May 30 21:39:17 <seanw>	80-odd*
May 30 21:39:22 <Martinp23>	:O
May 30 21:39:29 <Martinp23>	I'm only logging about 30 ;)
May 30 21:39:30 <seanw>	I jhave several GB worth of logs
May 30 21:39:36 *	WikiBlue (n=WikiRock@wikimedia/wikiblue) has joined #wikimedia-cpg
May 30 21:39:40 <WikiBlue>	kay
May 30 21:39:41 <seanw>	WB WikiBlue
May 30 21:39:44 <WikiBlue>	can everyone see me?
May 30 21:39:46 <loco085>	hi WikiBlue  :D
May 30 21:39:49 <WikiBlue>	sorry! internet connection was sucky
May 30 21:39:49 <loco085>	yes
May 30 21:39:50 <WikiBlue>	hey :)
May 30 21:39:51 <loco085>	i can
May 30 21:39:58 <WikiBlue>	nice to see everyone
May 30 21:40:17 <WikiBlue>	so how r things going?
May 30 21:40:23 <seanw>	Great!
May 30 21:40:25 <WikiBlue>	i heard you guys were busy beavers :)
May 30 21:40:27 <seanw>	Nt as good without you!
May 30 21:40:35 <seanw>	WikiBlue, have you read our maling list or shall we update you?
May 30 21:40:45 <cary-office>	busy badgers (winking at schiste)
May 30 21:40:45 *	loco085 is happy to see WikiBlue  again :)
May 30 21:40:45 <WikiBlue>	i've skimmed but i had like 1,000 emails lol
May 30 21:40:51 *	schiste laughts
May 30 21:40:52 <WikiBlue>	Me too loco :)
May 30 21:41:09 <WikiBlue>	so whats up?
May 30 21:41:11 *	HistoryBuff (i=historyb@anapnea.net) has joined #wikimedia-cpg
May 30 21:41:28 <WikiBlue>	what coolio projects have you guys been working on?
May 30 21:41:39 <seanw>	WikiBlue, not so much projects but ourselves.
May 30 21:41:39 <HistoryBuff>	Wiki_Blue: Welcome back
May 30 21:41:45 <WikiBlue>	thanks history :)
May 30 21:41:48 <seanw>	WikiBlue, we've tried to reorganise somewhat
May 30 21:41:58 <HistoryBuff>	(sorry I'm late, just checked the e-mail)
May 30 21:42:06 <WikiBlue>	(just started)
May 30 21:42:45 <seanw>	WikiBlue, basically we decided to use the mailing list and on-wiki talkpage for more discussion and use meetings as and when we need them rather than weekly - you oaky with that?
May 30 21:42:46 <cary-office>	sean was away for two weeks
May 30 21:43:14 <schiste>	I'd like us to keep the weekly meet
May 30 21:43:21 <schiste>	even it's less official
May 30 21:43:24 <seanw>	cary-office, just the meeting!
May 30 21:43:29 <WikiBlue>	hmmm. sort of but let me explain something, and maybe we can come up with a solution
May 30 21:43:53 <WikiBlue>	the problem is that this list serve was a way to tie together people from all projects that are doing communications work
May 30 21:44:09 <WikiBlue>	like LGBT is very active
May 30 21:44:11 <WikiBlue>	for example
May 30 21:44:20 <WikiBlue>	however, unless i had met someone from that group
May 30 21:44:28 <WikiBlue>	i would have known all the communication stuff they were doing
May 30 21:44:52 <WikiBlue>	and I'm trying to convince people like that to join so that across all projects we can all be informed
May 30 21:45:09 <seanw>	WikiBlue, that's where the meeting falls down - only a few of us can get to it each week, so we wante dto use the list and wiki more
May 30 21:45:31 <HistoryBuff>	We're a wiki based org, after all. :)
May 30 21:45:33 <WikiBlue>	right. no, i get it
May 30 21:45:46 <WikiBlue>	i know where u guys r coming from
May 30 21:45:48 <WikiBlue>	i'm just wondering
May 30 21:45:51 <WikiBlue>	if there is another solution
May 30 21:45:54 <HistoryBuff>	We had discussed varying the start times of the meetings and such too.
May 30 21:46:09 <WikiBlue>	how about this
May 30 21:46:22 <WikiBlue>	if for whatever reason the list serve gets too busy
May 30 21:46:26 <WikiBlue>	we can just create another one
May 30 21:46:34 <WikiBlue>	for internal communication announcements
May 30 21:46:50 <WikiBlue>	which I need anyway...b/c it seems that if i send out a press release to reporters
May 30 21:47:04 <WikiBlue>	i should also be sending it to people in Wikimedia projects
May 30 21:47:07 <WikiBlue>	that are interested
May 30 21:47:12 <WikiBlue>	does that sound okay?
May 30 21:47:18 <seanw>	Well
May 30 21:47:30 <seanw>	I don't think comproh would become too busy anytime soon
May 30 21:47:36 <seanw>	But I would like us to use it a bit more freely
May 30 21:47:36 <cary-office>	why not?
May 30 21:47:43 <WikiBlue>	go ahead
May 30 21:47:43 <Martinp23>	I think it would make sense to have a separate -announce list
May 30 21:47:52 <WikiBlue>	kay. done then
May 30 21:47:54 <WikiBlue>	talk away
May 30 21:47:55 <WikiBlue>	:)
May 30 21:47:58 <schiste>	Hmmm imo we should use the ml as a way to discuss AND also keep the weekly meets
May 30 21:48:15 <seanw>	cary-office, ?
May 30 21:48:20 <schiste>	even if we just have on per month really official
May 30 21:48:26 <cary-office>	what schiste said
May 30 21:48:40 <seanw>	That's fine imo, keep them going
May 30 21:48:49 <seanw>	But
May 30 21:48:55 <HistoryBuff>	Informal brainstorming is never a bad thing.
May 30 21:49:05 <seanw>	Keep the fpocus on the ml rather than the chat because so few can attend this out of the whole group :)
May 30 21:50:14 <seanw>	Thought on that?>
May 30 21:50:15 <seanw>	s
May 30 21:50:34 <HistoryBuff>	"few can attend" <-- yes, and we should be trying to use the wiki to help participation too.
May 30 21:50:42 <WikiBlue>	yes, please do use the wiki as well
May 30 21:51:20 <WikiBlue>	maybe we can create one page for each project, and use the discussion page for detailed convos?
May 30 21:51:29 <schiste>	why not
May 30 21:51:39 <schiste>	Could be really helpful
May 30 21:51:46 <schiste>	to keep track of the ongoing projects
May 30 21:51:58 <WikiBlue>	does anyone here have access to internal?
May 30 21:52:07 <schiste>	I do.
May 30 21:52:15 <WikiBlue>	i'm going to send you alink
May 30 21:52:18 <schiste>	ok
May 30 21:52:45 <WikiBlue>	http://internal.wikimedia.org/wiki/PR_Projects
May 30 21:52:49 <seanw>	awww
May 30 21:52:51 <seanw>	We can't see it :(
May 30 21:52:55 <WikiBlue>	basically its this
May 30 21:53:05 <WikiBlue>	i keep a PR Project page
May 30 21:53:13 <WikiBlue>	and all these other useful info on:
May 30 21:53:35 <WikiBlue>	links, releases, etc.......I can replicate that on meta
May 30 21:53:45 <schiste>	ok so imo
May 30 21:53:47 <WikiBlue>	so that its like a hub of activitiy and info
May 30 21:53:55 <schiste>	we should create a page with
May 30 21:54:06 <schiste>	[[CPG/on going project]]
May 30 21:54:06 <unilinky>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPG/on_going_project
May 30 21:54:11 <schiste>	the list
May 30 21:54:29 <schiste>	and then [[CPG/Project name]] with details
May 30 21:54:29 <unilinky>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPG/Project_name
May 30 21:54:38 <seanw>	Go ahead.
May 30 21:54:41 <seanw>	We already have a few/
May 30 21:55:07 <schiste>	yes, I mean for every project
May 30 21:55:17 <schiste>	just to keep track of stuff
May 30 21:55:32 <schiste>	Ok so this is what I propose for the oncomming week
May 30 21:55:35 <seanw>	Okay, let's do that.
May 30 21:55:44 <schiste>	we organise our wikiparts
May 30 21:55:49 <WikiBlue>	sounds good
May 30 21:56:01 <schiste>	make everything clean
May 30 21:56:24 *	Wiki_Blue has quit (Connection timed out)
May 30 21:56:26 <WikiBlue>	and I'll try to set up some basic info
May 30 21:56:30 <seanw>	In that, what role does the ml play?
May 30 21:56:56 <HistoryBuff>	the ml should be a prod
May 30 21:57:00 <schiste>	imo discussion point
May 30 21:57:06 <schiste>	wiki production and discussion
May 30 21:57:18 <HistoryBuff>	"Hey, this project is started ... needs help ... has this deadline coming up"
May 30 21:57:26 <schiste>	yes
May 30 21:57:28 <seanw>	This sounds very sensible.
May 30 21:57:33 <schiste>	why so ?
May 30 21:57:46 <seanw>	So Sandy posts to the list, and then poeople who are interested flood to the discussion page.
May 30 21:57:56 <WikiBlue>	kay.
May 30 21:58:34 <schiste>	not only sandy
May 30 21:58:53 <seanw>	schiste, yeah, not onlt sandy, but probably mainly her
May 30 21:59:13 <schiste>	Hmmm seems ok
May 30 21:59:23 <cary-office>	I get to post too
May 30 21:59:30 <seanw>	You do cary
May 30 21:59:36 <seanw>	But we'll moderate your postings ;D
May 30 22:00:09 <seanw>	Okay, guys, we've spent 1/2 hour on this
May 30 22:00:17 <seanw>	Have we got it hammered out mainly?
May 30 22:02:32 <seanw>	I'll take that as a yes; anything else people want to discuss?
May 30 22:02:47 <WikiBlue>	wikimania
May 30 22:02:50 <WikiBlue>	if possible
May 30 22:02:53 <WikiBlue>	just quickly
May 30 22:03:27 <WikiBlue>	(I;ll be writing up press releases to send out etc
May 30 22:03:32 <seanw>	Go ahead.
May 30 22:03:36 <WikiBlue>	1) can you guys help distribute
May 30 22:03:52 <WikiBlue>	also 2) has anyone keep tracked on new media stuff?
May 30 22:03:56 <WikiBlue>	video etc?
May 30 22:04:15 <WikiBlue>	i think we should really promote the live video etc/
May 30 22:04:21 <seanw>	WikiBlue, what do you mean by "help distrubute>"
May 30 22:04:26 <seanw>	Send to newspapers etc?
May 30 22:04:32 <WikiBlue>	once press releases or statements are made...
May 30 22:04:34 <WikiBlue>	send to newspapers
May 30 22:04:37 <WikiBlue>	word of mouth
May 30 22:04:46 <WikiBlue>	grass root - like sending emails to friends
May 30 22:04:49 <WikiBlue>	posting in blogs
May 30 22:04:50 <WikiBlue>	etc
May 30 22:05:05 <WikiBlue>	some of you are good at
May 30 22:05:09 <WikiBlue>	pitching stories
May 30 22:05:16 <WikiBlue>	like loco in latin america etc
May 30 22:05:18 <HistoryBuff>	WikiBlue: What video are we doing? :P
May 30 22:05:37 <WikiBlue>	We are doing video podcasts and other types of interactive new media things
May 30 22:05:40 <schiste>	already doing it so I can help
May 30 22:05:42 <WikiBlue>	(not sure of details)
May 30 22:05:45 <seanw>	WikiBlue, thanks on that. Our media person was symode, but he isn't around today.
May 30 22:05:49 <WikiBlue>	like i heard something of a virtual town meeting etc
May 30 22:05:58 <seanw>	WikiBlue, you probably want to e-mail symode09 wrt to video
May 30 22:06:04 <WikiBlue>	kay.
May 30 22:06:29 <WikiBlue>	well talk to schiste and symode09
May 30 22:06:31 <WikiBlue>	thats all
May 30 22:06:36 <WikiBlue>	and then send you guys update
May 30 22:07:01 <HistoryBuff>	I have been in contact with some of the taiwan people, and symode and I have chatted a bit ... maybe there is more that he's doing that I'm not aware of though.
May 30 22:07:12 <schiste>	I'll be back in one hour
May 30 22:07:17 <schiste>	more or less
May 30 22:07:19 <schiste>	see you then
May 30 22:07:20 <WikiBlue>	kay.
May 30 22:08:06 <seanw>	Okay, so, we're done tonight?
May 30 22:08:20 <WikiBlue>	i am
May 30 22:09:15 <HistoryBuff>	Did we get that "mission statement" in a final form and does WikiBlue know about that?
May 30 22:09:20 <seanw>	Ah yes, that.
May 30 22:09:22 <seanw>	No idea :S
May 30 22:09:38 <HistoryBuff>	:P
May 30 22:09:47 <HistoryBuff>	WikiBlue: That sound familiar?
May 30 22:09:50 <WikiBlue>	nope
May 30 22:09:55 <WikiBlue>	for wikimedia foundation?
May 30 22:10:16 <HistoryBuff>	No, for CPG
May 30 22:10:21 <WikiBlue>	ahhh AWESOME
May 30 22:10:32 <WikiBlue>	havent' please send!
May 30 22:11:07 *	Platonides has quit ()
May 30 22:11:36 <seanw>	OKay
May 30 22:11:38 <seanw>	Well, shall we clse this?
May 30 22:13:11 <WikiBlue>	kay
May 30 22:13:17 <seanw>	Martinp23, thanks, please close log
May 30 22:13:20 <seanw>	Thanks to all who attneded :)
May 30 22:13:23 <seanw>	Welcome back again WikiBlue