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Topic changed to "Wikimedia Communication Projects Group | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ComProj | Meetings are now being held on an irregular basis. | Next meeting: Wednesday, August 15 @ 20:30 UTC" by brown_cat. [4:26pm] Wiki_Blue: hey where is the agenda [4:26pm] Wiki_Blue: i can't find it [4:26pm] cary: It's hidden [4:26pm] loco085: lol [4:26pm] Worby: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communication_Projects_Group/Agenda [4:26pm] Wiki_Blue: people have said they have to leave early [4:26pm] Worby: @ Wiki_Blue [4:26pm] Wiki_Blue: have only a few minutes, so lets get this out of the way, and then we can chat [4:26pm] Worby: Wiki_Blue: I sent you an e-mail [4:26pm] Worby: did you get it? [4:26pm] Wiki_Blue: not sure worby [4:26pm] Wiki_Blue: today has been very busy [4:26pm] Wiki_Blue: about what? [4:27pm] Worby: ComProj stuff [4:27pm] Worby: I sent it a few minutes ago [4:27pm] Worby: like 10 [4:27pm] schiste: hi Wiki_Blue [4:27pm] schiste: [4:27pm] Wiki_Blue: met schiste too [4:27pm] Wiki_Blue: for Stats group worby? [4:27pm] Wiki_Blue: (he my smoking partner) [4:27pm] Wiki_Blue: okay lets start [4:27pm] schiste: (^_^) [4:28pm] Wiki_Blue: cbrown [4:28pm] Wiki_Blue: you here? [4:28pm] brown_cat: Wiki_Blue: We can get the media to stop focussing on the shocking truth that wikipedia is vandalized (is that all the news fox can find?) by releasing propoganda with jimbo in it [4:28pm] Wiki_Blue: brown_cat? [4:28pm] Wiki_Blue: LMAO [4:28pm] Wiki_Blue: talk about volunteer manual [4:28pm] Wiki_Blue: whats up with that [4:28pm] brown_cat: mine? [4:29pm] Wiki_Blue: yes, you put it on the agenda right? [4:29pm] brown_cat: ummmm, didn't think so [4:29pm] Wiki_Blue: okay, lets move on then [4:29pm] brown_cat: I was doing the video thing I think [4:29pm] Wiki_Blue: is cbrown not here? [4:29pm] schiste: Worby: [4:29pm] brown_cat: nope [4:29pm] loco085: Worby is cbrown [4:29pm] Wiki_Blue: worby [4:29pm] Wiki_Blue: you cbrown? [4:30pm] brown_cat: [4:30pm] Wiki_Blue: okay forget it [4:30pm] Wiki_Blue: lol [4:30pm] Worby: wikie_Blue: sorry [4:30pm] brown_cat: lol [4:30pm] Worby: yes, stats gropu & voluteer manual [4:30pm] Worby: can I start, brown_cat? [4:30pm] brown_cat: yes [4:30pm] Wiki_Blue: start with volunteer manual [4:30pm] Worby: no one adds thigns to the agenda [4:30pm] brown_cat: might as well [4:30pm] Wiki_Blue: worby [4:30pm] Wiki_Blue: go [4:30pm] Worby: yes [4:30pm] Worby: yuppers [4:30pm] brown_cat: who is logging? [4:30pm] • Worby = Cbrown1023 = casey [4:30pm] Worby: okay [4:30pm] Wiki_Blue: Okay. whats up with the manual? [4:30pm] cary: I log naturally, but my log format sucks [4:30pm] Worby: cary will probably be [4:30pm] loco085: lol cary [4:31pm] Worby: okay, brown_cat & I are/were working on writing a volunteer manual for Sandy's n00bs [4:31pm] Worby: we're wondering what else you think should be added [4:31pm] Worby: Communication Projects Group/Projects/Volunteer Manual [4:31pm] Wiki_Blue: (looking good btw [4:31pm] Worby: what needs to be expanded, or what is messed up [4:31pm] Worby: just feedback [4:31pm] Worby: please post it here, or on the talk page if you get a chance [4:31pm] Wiki_Blue: a) I would divide it into sections, like an oline book [4:32pm] Wiki_Blue: and create subpages [4:32pm] Wiki_Blue: b) I have some general information, that if I send it to you...its on PDF [4:32pm] Wiki_Blue: could you guys post it, format it etc, and take what is important? [4:32pm] Worby: b) --> k, you know my e-mail [4:32pm] Wiki_Blue: okay coolio [4:32pm] Worby: I'd be more than happy too : [4:32pm] Wiki_Blue: can the rest of you look at manual right now [4:32pm] Wiki_Blue: and give some feedback? [4:32pm] Worby: divide it into sections --> shodl we take a step further and put it on Wikibooks? [4:32pm] Wiki_Blue: YES! [4:32pm] Wiki_Blue: YES! [4:32pm] Worby: [4:32pm] Wiki_Blue: very cool [4:33pm] • Worby posts that to the talk page for later [4:33pm] schiste: Or you can make the content, and then I can format it to make an hypertext pdf [4:33pm] Worby: [4:33pm] Worby: sounds good [4:33pm] Worby: can we move on? [4:33pm] Wiki_Blue: also good....for non wiki people [4:33pm] Worby: yeah [4:33pm] Wiki_Blue: reporter on the call [4:33pm] Worby: pdf are better in some ways [4:33pm] Wiki_Blue: hold on [4:33pm] Worby: k [4:33pm] Wiki_Blue: you guys can talk [4:33pm] Worby: okay [4:34pm] Worby: can we discuss Cary & my Senior Outreach? [4:34pm] cary: I'm sure [4:34pm] Worby: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communication_Projects_Group/Projects/Senior_Outreach [4:34pm] Worby: okay, does anyone have any ideas about it? [4:34pm] Worby: like any other mags that seniors might like to read [4:34pm] Worby: or subjects that appeal to them? [4:34pm] loco085: oki brown_cat [4:35pm] • Worby has AARP, travel-based mags, RV [4:35pm] Worby: and a linked list [4:35pm] Worby: anyone else have ideas? [4:35pm] schiste: Worby: well you have to think on how you want to reach them [4:35pm] schiste: localy or globaly ? [4:35pm] schiste: through the press or associations ? [4:35pm] Worby: we were thinking about the fact that some magazines and publications have free adspace for non-profits [4:36pm] Worby: some more of a press type thing [4:36pm] schiste: Hmmm I was more thinking of a big article [4:36pm] schiste: like contacting a journalist of a senior magazine [4:36pm] Worby: ah, that would be a good idea [4:36pm] schiste: and ask him if he would like to make an article [4:36pm] schiste: blablabla [4:37pm] Worby: hmmmm [4:37pm] • Worby likes brainstorming [4:37pm] Worby: okay, let's move on to cary [4:37pm] Worby: (his agenda items)( [4:37pm] cary: Those categories have been deleted on enwiki [4:37pm] Worby: [4:37pm] cary: Someone is trying to delete Wikipedians by age [4:37pm] cary: er... year of birth [4:37pm] Worby: schiste: I'll review the log later and post these things on the talk page [4:37pm] Worby: schiste: I'll contact you more later about it :), you have good ideas [4:38pm] Worby: cary: Fundraiser, and Sept. Campaign is this you? [4:40pm] • Worby pokes cary [4:40pm] loco085: xDD [4:40pm] cary: sorry, I'm not prepared to discuss [4:41pm] Worby: oh, okay [4:41pm] Worby: it was the only other thing on the Agenad [4:41pm] Worby: agenda* [4:41pm] Worby: anyone else have somethign? [4:43pm] loco085: Wiki_Blue: i have to talk with you then [4:44pm] Wiki_Blue: yes [4:44pm] Wiki_Blue: fundraiser [4:44pm] loco085: it's possible that we'll found Wikimedia Argentina in september next [4:44pm] cary: loco085: Can you fund a trip for the VolCo? [4:44pm] Wiki_Blue: please talk loco you guys will need press for this [4:44pm] loco085: i think that zuirdj talked to you about that [4:45pm] schiste: loco085: if you need any thing information / assistance / anything just ask [4:45pm] loco085: oki, thank you [4:46pm] loco085: can we do an invitation for the press here, Wiki_Blue ? [4:47pm] schiste: loco085: better if Wikimedia Argentina do it it self [4:47pm] schiste: is there an Argentina part on the press list ? [4:47pm] loco085: oh, i reffer WE to the argentinean group... schiste [4:47pm] loco085: sorry [4:47pm] schiste: Ok so there's no Argentina part on the press list [4:48pm] loco085: i was working in that, i must add some contacts to the press list [4:48pm] schiste: the best thing to do first is to gather contacts [4:48pm] schiste: mainly personns qho have already spoke about wikipedia [4:48pm] loco085: i will do that [4:48pm] schiste: What do you wanna do apart of that, a press release ? [4:49pm] loco085: yes, i think... I must talk with patricio.lorente [4:49pm] loco085: [4:50pm] Wiki_Blue: sorrry [4:50pm] Wiki_Blue: yes schiste if right [4:50pm] loco085: i will add argentinean contacts to the press list, Wiki_Blue [4:50pm] Wiki_Blue: press contacts first [4:50pm] cary: loco085: So when are you flying me down to B.A. ? [4:50pm] Worby: haha [4:50pm] Wiki_Blue: also, once that is organized [4:50pm] Wiki_Blue: you guys would probably hold a press conference [4:50pm] loco085: hehehehe you're invited, cary [4:51pm] schiste: loco085: a good point, if you have time, would be to meet one or too of them [4:51pm] loco085: we wait for you [4:51pm] Wiki_Blue: and I can give you some advice for that loco, when its done [4:51pm] schiste: and perhaps organisze a press conf [4:51pm] Wiki_Blue: i mean when you are ready [4:51pm] schiste: arf [4:51pm] schiste: too slow ^^' [4:51pm] Wiki_Blue: lol [4:51pm] Wiki_Blue: email me, and I will give you call [4:51pm] loco085: Wiki_Blue: i'll travel to Buenos Aires next week, then we have a week for work with patricio in that [4:51pm] Wiki_Blue: okay cool. press conference are faily easy [4:51pm] • Worby calls up Wiki_Blue [4:52pm] Worby: [4:52pm] Worby: it's dialing [4:52pm] Wiki_Blue: the hardest part is messaging [4:52pm] schiste: yep [4:52pm] Wiki_Blue: schiste is also a good contact [4:52pm] Wiki_Blue: b/c wikimedia france ahs gone through this [4:52pm] Wiki_Blue: so touch base with us, when you are ready [4:52pm] loco085: nice [4:52pm] brown_cat: Wiki_Blue: Jimbo would think otherwise in aus [4:52pm] Wiki_Blue: lol [4:52pm] loco085: i will ask patricio and then send an email for the group [4:52pm] Wiki_Blue: so i ahve an item [4:53pm] Wiki_Blue: awesome [4:53pm] brown_cat: Wiki_Blue: What about the press pack? [4:53pm] Wiki_Blue: ohh dear thats a disaster [4:54pm] brown_cat: lol [4:54pm] Wiki_Blue: okay. so we are going to do a brand new kit that is less general and more messaging about how our work affects the earth [4:54pm] Wiki_Blue: but like we still need basic info [4:54pm] Wiki_Blue: to give to people [4:54pm] Wiki_Blue: so that press kit I wrote, we are going to create diff. fliers [4:54pm] Wiki_Blue: with it [4:54pm] brown_cat: k [4:54pm] Wiki_Blue: does anyone want to be responsible for taking the PDF [4:55pm] Worby: which? [4:55pm] • brown_cat will [4:55pm] Wiki_Blue: and serving as contact for graphic desinger [4:55pm] • Worby pokes brown_cat [4:55pm] • brown_cat will [4:55pm] Wiki_Blue: and then checking with marketing team [4:55pm] Worby: that's guillom [4:55pm] Worby: and elian? [4:55pm] Wiki_Blue: yes [4:55pm] schiste: yep [4:55pm] schiste: and [4:55pm] Worby: there's another one? [4:55pm] Wiki_Blue: okay. [4:55pm] Wiki_Blue: so I have a graphic designer [4:55pm] Worby: brown_cat: guillom is normally on, but he's out hiking I think so touch base with him about it [4:55pm] brown_cat: k [4:55pm] schiste: Worby: yes arne [4:56pm] Wiki_Blue: i will email you the graphic designer and you [4:56pm] Wiki_Blue: and then you take it from there, okay? [4:56pm] Wiki_Blue: provide her guidance, etc [4:56pm] brown_cat: k [4:56pm] Wiki_Blue: ahhh..whats your email again [4:56pm] Wiki_Blue: lol [4:56pm] schiste: guillom is in holiday for few days [4:56pm] cary: good for hijm [4:56pm] cary: him [4:56pm] Wiki_Blue: (BTW his talk on marketing was awesoem during wikimania) [4:56pm] brown_cat: symode09@hotmail.com ? [4:56pm] Wiki_Blue: hey schiste [4:56pm] schiste: (yep ) [4:57pm] schiste: yes ? [4:57pm] Wiki_Blue: so, the fundraising, i particularly wanted your help [4:57pm] Wiki_Blue: you interested in helping me with a few things [4:57pm] Worby: (oh yeah, I saw those slides before wikimania... he worked hard on 'em) [4:57pm] Wiki_Blue: (I have to right a plan etc.) [4:57pm] Worby: ( poor sandy) [4:57pm] schiste: what can I do ? [4:57pm] Wiki_Blue: could you help me brainstrom? [4:57pm] Wiki_Blue: and maybe review plan etc [4:57pm] Worby: Wiki_Blue: /join #wikimedia-fundraising [4:57pm] Worby: people had some ideas a few months ago [4:58pm] Worby: (and the page is linked from the topic) [4:58pm] brown_cat: next year I dubbs wikimania video - the quality this year was not all to great [4:58pm] Worby: but schiste already knows about that [4:58pm] schiste: Wiki_Blue: of course [4:58pm] Wiki_Blue: awesoem dude [4:58pm] Wiki_Blue: also, does anyone know some wikipedian that really should be featured? [4:58pm] Wiki_Blue: that is using for dying language [4:58pm] Wiki_Blue: or is doing awesome things with wikipedia [4:58pm] brown_cat: hmmm [4:58pm] Worby: hmmmmmm [4:58pm] cary: Ibrahim [4:59pm] Worby: [4:59pm] Worby: is he still active? [4:59pm] Wiki_Blue: what does he do again? [4:59pm] cary: I've gotten Korrigan working on the ht. wikipedia [4:59pm] cary: Ibrahimjon Rustamov [4:59pm] schiste: Kelson / Emmanuel [4:59pm] cary: tg.wikipedia [4:59pm] Wiki_Blue: what does he do [4:59pm] loco085: [4:59pm] • Worby gives schiste ops in #wikimedia-fundraising because he's the dude now [4:59pm] schiste: For the dvd and 1.0 version [4:59pm] schiste: and the 0.7 will comes out at fall [4:59pm] cary: Korrigan has been cleaning up ht.wikipedia, in preparation for the masses we're going to be expecting [5:00pm] LeBron: Yeah masses… [5:00pm] cary: well, when Haiti gets electricity, watch out! [5:00pm] Wiki_Blue: what is ht wikipedia? [5:00pm] cary: Haitian Kreyol [5:00pm] LeBron: Wiki_Blue, haitian. [5:00pm] Wiki_Blue: so emmanuel and kelson [5:00pm] Wiki_Blue: worked on version .5 [5:00pm] Wiki_Blue: ??? [5:00pm] LeBron: Emmanuel == Kelson. [5:01pm] Wiki_Blue: got you lolol [5:01pm] schiste: Emmanuel is Kelson [5:01pm] cary: is a he [5:01pm] Wiki_Blue: any other person? [5:01pm] schiste: Hooo [5:01pm] Wiki_Blue: that would be a good wikipedian to feature b/c of their work and use of wikipedia [5:01pm] schiste: Depending on where is her project [5:01pm] schiste: but Jennifer Grystock [5:01pm] Wiki_Blue: AHHH yeah. [5:02pm] schiste: Gristock* [5:02pm] schiste: she would be a great asset in this [5:02pm] Wiki_Blue: yup. already on my list to contact her [5:02pm] Wiki_Blue: lol [5:02pm] schiste: I exchanged a lot of mail with her [5:02pm] Worby: ooh [5:02pm] schiste: I can forward you some stuff if you want [5:02pm] Wiki_Blue: is there some type of genius in aparticular field [5:02pm] LeBron: Geee, there must be someone on de: to feature. Anyone from there ? [5:02pm] Wiki_Blue: that contributes [5:03pm] schiste: LeBron: well Elian ù [5:03pm] Wiki_Blue: I know there has to be Geniuses. lolol [5:03pm] Wiki_Blue: come on now [5:03pm] schiste: hmmm [5:03pm] cary: We're all geniuses [5:03pm] Wiki_Blue: LMAO [5:03pm] brown_cat: Wiki_Blue: I will be off soon, I still need help with the php for the survey and we need a camera for the short lines for the video in the press pack [5:03pm] • Worby will be off soon too [5:03pm] Worby: [5:03pm] Worby: like really soon [5:03pm] Wiki_Blue: what survey brown? [5:03pm] cary: but this is irrelevant. I thought we were interested in people who have been advancing small languages [5:04pm] schiste: I'm off see you in one hour or so [5:04pm] cary: Lawrence Adewole of Yoruba.wikipedia [5:04pm] brown_cat: the survey thing where you can really easily set up a survey [5:04pm] Wiki_Blue: thats one aspect [5:04pm] Wiki_Blue: ahhh yeah [5:04pm] Wiki_Blue: okay [5:04pm] Wiki_Blue: brown cat [5:04pm] Worby: Wiki_Blue: remember brown_cat? he set up his survay thingy a bit ago [5:04pm] Wiki_Blue: yes yes [5:05pm] Worby: [5:05pm] Wiki_Blue: and btw [5:05pm] brown_cat: heh [5:05pm] Wiki_Blue: the stats group [5:05pm] • Worby listens [5:05pm] Wiki_Blue: did i email you about creating [5:05pm] Wiki_Blue: an email list? [5:05pm] brown_cat: :s [5:05pm] brown_cat: #wikimeida-stats [5:05pm] • Worby doesn't tink so [5:05pm] Wiki_Blue: you did this ? [5:05pm] Worby: but we have #wikimedia-stats in case we need it [5:05pm] Wiki_Blue: wait, is wikimedia stats active? [5:05pm] Worby: we can use it if we need to [5:05pm] Worby: yes [5:06pm] Wiki_Blue: okay. then no [5:06pm] Worby: I'm not in it by default, because I'm on holiday [5:06pm] cary: Worby likes to create channels and leave them for people to discover [5:06pm] Worby: [5:06pm] Wiki_Blue: b/c i don't want teh people to get pissed if we come on in [5:06pm] Worby: cary: [5:06pm] Worby: -fundraising was spammed [5:06pm] Worby: and used a lot a few months ago [5:06pm] Wiki_Blue: can you create something like comproj-stats [5:06pm] Worby: and -il was supposed to redirect to -chapters [5:06pm] brown_cat: oolops.... [5:06pm] brown_cat: #wikimedia-stats [5:06pm] Wiki_Blue: but thats already fille dwith members right? [5:07pm] loco085: lol brown_cat [5:07pm] Worby: Wiki_Blue: how about #wikimedia-cpg-stats ? [5:07pm] Wiki_Blue: awesome [5:07pm] Wiki_Blue: yes [5:07pm] cary: I'm going to have to go soon [5:07pm] brown_cat: there is already a stats group [5:07pm] Wiki_Blue: can you do that? and send me the link where people can sign up [5:07pm] cary: It's past 21h00 (UTC) [5:07pm] Wiki_Blue: so i can email it to the newbiews? [5:07pm] loco085: cary: when will you come to BA? [5:08pm] schiste left the chat room. ("I'm off") [5:08pm] • Worby has to go like now [5:08pm] cary: loco085: hehe... how hot is November? [5:08pm] Wiki_Blue: okay [5:08pm] Wiki_Blue: since everyone is rushed [5:08pm] Wiki_Blue: this meeting is closed [5:08pm] Wiki_Blue: lets talk more over mailing list [5:08pm] brown_cat: Wiki_Blue: there is already a stats group [5:08pm] loco085: it's cool, Worby [5:08pm] Wiki_Blue: yes dude [5:08pm] cary: loco085: And who is paying for my trip ? [5:08pm] Wiki_Blue: Okay brown cat and cbrown [5:09pm] Wiki_Blue: i get you guys confused all the time [5:09pm] Worby: haha [5:09pm] Wiki_Blue: im happy you change dyour name to worby [5:09pm] Worby: [5:09pm] Worby: it'll be back when I get back home [5:09pm] loco085: oh that's i dont know that cary [5:09pm] Wiki_Blue: lol [5:09pm] Worby: I'm in FL right now, so I'm Worby [5:09pm] brown_cat: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research_Network [5:09pm] Worby: that's different [5:09pm] Worby: I think I'm on that mailing list though [5:10pm] • cary checks fares [5:10pm] loco085: in november is my birthday, cary [5:10pm] cary: COUGH COUGH [5:10pm] • brown_cat gets present [5:10pm] Worby: and that's old, brown_cat [5:10pm] cary: $902 Roundtrip [5:10pm] brown_cat: I know [5:10pm] brown_cat: worby: it has not been used in like a year [5:10pm] Wiki_Blue: okay. this is for marketing stats though [5:10pm] brown_cat: but, we can restart it [5:10pm] Wiki_Blue: totally different [5:10pm] Wiki_Blue: totally totally different [5:10pm] brown_cat: good point [5:10pm] brown_cat: marketing stats = lies? [5:11pm] Wiki_Blue: there are many "outsiders" [5:11pm] brown_cat: [5:11pm] Wiki_Blue: that have volunteered, many with marketing analysis backgrounds [5:11pm] Wiki_Blue: ie thats their job [5:11pm] Worby: Wiki_Blue: I have to leave in like 30 seconds or so, if there is anythign else you need, e-mail me [5:11pm] Wiki_Blue: kay bye everyone [5:11pm] • brown_cat huggles Worby [5:11pm] Worby: you know my e-mail addies [5:11pm] brown_cat: cya [5:11pm] Worby: bye everyone [5:11pm] brown_cat: x [5:11pm] loco085: bye Worby [5:11pm] Worby: later brown [5:11pm] Worby: [5:11pm] Worby: later loc [5:11pm] Worby: o [5:11pm] Worby left the chat room. ("O_O") [5:12pm] brown_cat: Wiki_Blue.. [5:12pm] cary: Ah, it's only $705 Roundtrip from Miami [5:12pm] brown_cat: [5:12pm] brown_cat: a draft of an Idea I have is http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Symode09/Proposal [5:12pm] loco085: lol cary [5:12pm] loco085: [5:12pm] Wiki_Blue: was up brown [5:12pm] brown_cat: a draft of an Idea I have is http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Symode09/Proposal [5:12pm] brown_cat: click the links [5:13pm] brown_cat: under example - the code = the search results [5:13pm] Greeves joined the chat room. [5:13pm] loco085: you mean a new project, brown_cat ? [5:13pm] brown_cat: yes [5:13pm] loco085: I didn't understand [5:14pm] loco085: but that's like a wikisearch, brown_cat ? [5:14pm] brown_cat: kinda... [5:14pm] loco085: we don't have one? [5:14pm] brown_cat: it would be huge - it would mean on each article we wanted to, we would write the 5 most related articles and the most related image and the equivelant on other wmf projects - then when people search (as in the example) george bush, they will get results