Community Wishlist Survey 2017/Archive/Multilevel Structured Discussions

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Multilevel Structured Discussions

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  • Problem: In the big discussions in the Structured Discussions (Flow), the conversation turns into a wall of text. And it is not easy to analyze and read.
  • Who would benefit: experienced editors, discussion readers
  • Proposed solution: Give editors the opportunity to choose the presentation of the discussion as they are used to. (user settings or single board settings) Store in the comment data about clicking on which "Reply" it was created. Show as we do in Wikitext: display 15 levels (or at the choice of the editor), then start the ladder again on the left with the initial indentation and the transfer designation en:Template:Outdent. In mobile form, this can be with a reduced indentation of the nodes of the ladder and remove the indentation where the ladder is without nodes of branches.
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Discussion[edit]

  • It's no problem. Flow indent's system is fine. —Be nt all (talk) 17:56, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Not for all. Many people say that there is a lack of logic and narrative threads in serious big discussions. Messages appear in the heap, analyze the dependencies in which for people (especially those who did not participate in the discussion, but who read it) excess work. --Sunpriat (talk) 11:01, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Indentation model of Flow is good. There is a problem with a storage model of Flow, that stored discussions as a plain lists of messages with indentation values.--Tucvbif (talk) 22:42, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Going to disagree with commentators above, the indentation model of Flow is not good at all, it does not make sense to any person that is already familiar with commenting systems on other websites. When I click ‘Reply’, I expect the message that gets sent out to be on another level from the message I am replying to, not in some preferential order that this system is using. It generally looks like a bug in the system every single time. stjn[ru] 11:14, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Simply disable Flow, ordinary structured discussions, as they take place on normal talk pages, are far better manageable for editors. OK, not for bots, but they should take second row always. Flow is just a weak forum impersonation without any real structure, far too little indentation levels, not clear ratios between posts in longer discussions, no possibilty to rearrange the structure of meandering discussions, completely inflexible so far less useful. OK, machines seem to deal better with this rigid, inflexible corset, but machines are irrelevant compared to humans, and disussions are for humans, not for machines. Grüße vom Sänger ♫(Reden) 22:22, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Sunpriat, I'm afraid that I have to archive this proposal, for the same reason that we've archived similar proposals this year. Working on Structured Discussions/Flow/talk pages is too big for the Community Tech team to work on this year. Sorry for notifying you so late. Thanks for participating in the survey. -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 18:30, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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