Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Editing/Visibility of articles needing defaultsort tags for leading articles

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Visibility of articles needing defaultsort tags for leading articles

  • Problem: When new pages are created that begin with the articles "A", "An", or "The", editors do not always remember to use the defaultsort tag.
  • Who would benefit: Users who are looking for WP articles in categories alphabetically
  • Proposed solution: Create a Wikipedia function to show special page of any page that starts with "A", "An" or "The" (or foreign language articles?) that does NOT have a defaultsort tag present. Maybe a newly created tag that could be put next to defaultsort tag that signifies "Yes, we do want 'The The' to sort under 'The'." and that new tag would exclude it from being listed as needing to be reviewed for a defaultsort.
  • More comments: In the above, the homonym "articles" is used with two different meanings.
  • Phabricator tickets:
  • Proposer: KConWiki (talk) 04:09, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]


@KConWiki: I read this 2 times and I'm still unclear what you are proposing. Please dumb this down for me ;) —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 10:02, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell, it's requesting a special page that would report something like Anomie (talk) 16:56, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Which, unsurprisingly, illuminates a good chunk of pages which don't qualify for the point of the special page. As it happens, I don't think we should add a special page as part of CommTech given there is a known work around. --Izno (talk) 18:47, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the lack of clarity - Thanks to Anomie for running that query - out of curiosity is it possible to run one for "The" instead of "A"? Thanks KConWiki (talk) 04:16, 7 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That query does all three of "A", "An", and "The". It's just that the first several all begin with "A". Anomie (talk) 13:27, 7 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, maybe category collation should take "A", "An" and "The" into account, and only require defaultsort if you really want the sorting to begin with "A". BWolff (WMF) (talk) 16:05, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]


  • Support Support Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:29, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Support Novak Watchmen (talk) 00:39, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Support Seems like it is about making a sorting algorithm of "A CAT" (for say) into the category of "CAT"; so that people searching about cat or cats easily find the page ~ RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 19:36, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Support Also for the articles about famous people! Dvorapa (talk) 13:14, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]