Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Bots and gadgets/Talk page archiving bot updating incoming links
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Talk page archiving bot updating incoming links
- Problem: When a talk page thread gets archived, all incoming links into the thread get broken, making it very difficult to follow old threads, which often contain useful information for current discussions. In the English Wikipedia we have ClueBot III which claims to fix up links while archiving (en:User:ClueBot_III#Keeping_linked), but in reality it unfortunately does this only to a very limited extent (links from other pages). The more important links from the same page (from other threads or from inside the very thread to be archived, as well as links from threads already archived) don't get updated.
- Who would benefit: All Wikipedians participating in talk page discussions
- Proposed solution: Enhance ClueBot III or provide a new universal archiving bot fixing up all links while archiving automatically. While detecting links from the same page might be more difficult than to detect links from other pages, it certainly isn't impossible.
- More comments:
- Phabricator tickets:
- Proposer: Matthiaspaul (talk) 02:46, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Discussion
- As an alternative, there's also w:User:SD0001/find-archived-section which very conveniently searches archives when following a broken link. It's available as a gadget on English Wikipedia. I'm not sure something like this belongs in MediaWiki and/or an extension, but we could globalize/localize the gadget to make it more easily available to all wikis. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 14:44, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, thanks for providing the link. Unfortunately, scripts like this cannot be used by people who (must) have JavaScript disabled for security reasons (or are using browsers not supporting it). So, a more general solution is still needed, ideally one which fixes the problem at its root (that is, in the moment when the problem is created), not at a later point in time when it may be difficult to put the pieces together reliably.
- --Matthiaspaul (talk) 14:52, 26 November 2020 (UTC) (updated 12:59, 13 December 2020 (UTC))
- Thanks for the link, had no idea this existed. — Bilorv (talk) 00:44, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Voting
- Support Shoeper (talk) 18:45, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support w:User:SD0001/find-archived-section takes care of this problem in most instances, but it's still an issue for newcomers who may not have enabled the gadget and still a minor inconvenience even for those with the gadget. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 04:33, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Thomas Kinz (talk) 09:22, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support JASpencer (talk) 16:28, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Lirazelf (talk) 16:39, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Emanuele676 (talk) 00:17, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support this fixes a long-term problem Libcub (talk) 18:13, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support If it is to correct links after archiving, the proposal is excellent. WikiFer msg 22:29, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, this is exactly what this proposal is about. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 12:53, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support — Bilorv (talk) 00:44, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support James Martindale (talk) 17:53, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:24, 11 December 2020 (UTC) - Support Mahedi Hasan (talk) 11:05, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support MichaelMaggs (talk) 15:00, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Please make it into Pywikibot core and provide an option in archivebot.py to automatically apply it. Tacsipacsi (talk) 21:51, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Terra ❤ (talk) 00:04, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support — Draceane talkcontrib. 12:50, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Shenme (talk) 04:50, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Kku (talk) 07:51, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support VKG1985 (talk) 17:27, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Sorou6sh (talk) 10:15, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Clearly useful! Uanfala (talk) 22:09, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Support Julián L. Páez 03:30, 21 December 2020 (UTC)