Label "New Article" by default with transition to "Needs improvement"
Problem: Many translated articles are created as "stubs", and the editors creating them forgot to mark them to signal that work will still be carried out. This is problematic for the reviewing process: reviewers spend time on reviewing a version that is still in the works, and they may mark it for deletion.
Proposed solution: Mark translations automatically in a way that encourages a better coordination of the review process. That is, allowing translators to have time to improve their initial versions while helping reviewers to focus on those where translators had enough time to do so.
Who would benefit: The work of the patrolmen to check the new articles, which may still be being worked on, will be reduced. Editors who prematurely nominate articles for removal. A large number of articles for withdrawal do not appear in the database.
@BlackStar1991: I understand that the purpose of the proposal is to make reviewers aware that a given page is a recent translaiton where the user may sill be working on it. Do you think that an approach similar to what is described in task T287236 (but applied to the desktop experience) would be helping with the problem described in this request? Thanks. -- Pginer-WMF (talk) 09:30, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@BlackStar1991: I tried to clarify the proposal. Please let me know if I misinterpreted anything, or something can be captured in a better way. By editing the proposal I tried to capture the essence of the issue and the general approach to solve it but avoided too many details for the solution, leaving room to explore options and technical possibilities. For reference I copy here the specific details of the proposed solution that I removed from the proposal: "Add the label "New article" to ALL new articles that are translations, which will be set on this article for 168 hours, after which the bot removes this label from it and compares it with articles in foreign Wikipedias. The comparison is based on the amount of content (characters) per paragraph. If there is clearly more information in a foreign-language article, then the translated article is marked Translate from this foreign-language version of Wikipedia. The bot starts comparing from Good articles, and then all available ones. If the contents of the +- articles are the same in size, the "New article" label is simply removed. While the New Article label is set on the article, the article cannot be nominated for removal. Only for Quick withdrawal." --Pginer-WMF (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:52, 3 February 2023 (UTC).[reply]
Support This should be added in CT-used wikis like the Vietnamese Wikipedia, where the machine translation crisis has been through several years. Thingofme (talk) 15:43, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support I do think this would need to be checked on regularly but not overly automatically enforced. New editors often lack access or knowledge necessary to add such info to new pages! Emilej01 (talk) 04:07, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support CROIX (talk) 15:22, 11 February 2023 (UTC)