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Latest comment: 3 years ago by MCasoValdes (WMF) in topic Proposal Status Change

Proposal Clinics[edit]

Hello Mary Mark Ockerbloom,

Thanks for beginning to draft your proposal for the Project Grants open call! I wanted to make sure you are aware that we are hosting proposal clinics for applicants to ask questions and get feedback. If you would like to attend, you can find the dates, times, and videoconference links posted on this page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project#Upcoming_Proposal_Clinics. These are optional opportunities to get support improving your proposal. Let me know if you have any questions! Good luck with finishing your proposal for the February 10 deadline!

Warm regards,

--MCasoValdes (WMF) (talk) 17:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Reminder: Change status to proposed to submit[edit]

IMPORTANT: Please note that you must change your proposal status from "draft" to "proposed" by the submission deadline in order for your proposal to be reviewed in the current round. When your proposal has been successfully submitted, it will show up in the "Open proposals" list (it may take several minutes for the list to update after you submit it). Applications that are not completely filled out and correctly submitted by the deadline will not be reviewed. To submit your proposal, you must complete all fields of the application and then:

1. Click on "edit source"
2. Change "|status=DRAFT" to "|status=PROPOSED"
3. Click the "Publish changes" button.

Thank you,

--MCasoValdes (WMF) (talk) 02:18, 9 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Questions from Superzerocol[edit]

Hi Mary Mark Ockerbloom, thanks for applying for Project Grants. I have some questions, feel free to answer following the numbers or just write up some lines.

  1. About data uploads, how you will ensure high-quality uploads?, Is someone checking the upload quality?
Absolutely, Superzerocool. We won't know how clean the initial data will be until we get it from the partner organization. Reviewing, organizing and cleaning it up will be a major activity. As we move information to Wikidata, we'll do additional checks to ensure that the changes there are accurate and that we don't duplicate previously existing information. (Duplication is more of an issue for artists and subjects; we know that the journal articles don't exist there currently.)
  1. I don't understand your metrics to be measured and how you will measure them.
There are several types of metrics, and it's important to plan at the beginning of the project so that any "before" measures are gathered then.
  • Metrics (Outputs): Indicators that materials were created: Since Wikiprojects track the activities of editors, one way to measure changes that I make in uploads to Wikidata is to use a dedicated account for my work on this project and look at the User contributions for that account. This can give measures of pages created and items edited. A list of items can be put into a spreadsheet which pulls further Wikidata information, to do things like sort and count by the type of entity involved. We can also use SPARQL queries to find the numbers of different types of items that have changed, such as the number of magazine articles on Wikidata and the number of authors and subjects that articles are linked to. This will give information about changes made by others as well as by my account during the appropriate time period. Some projects also use a Wikidata property "on focus list of Wikimedia project" to aid in tracking and query generation.
  • Metrics (Outcomes): Events: Event metrics are pretty standardized, and there are tools like the WikiEdu Dashboard and the Grants:Metrics "Magic Button" for tracking them.
  • Metrics (Outcomes): Indicators that materials are used by editors: Indicators that materials are being used are challenging. One possibility would be to calculate the Number of new Wikipedia pages created for the project’s Wikidata items. This could be done at the end by querying Wikidata to find project-related items with Wikipedia pages, then sorting them by creation dates. Since such changes might reflect many things in addition to our project, this is a bit of a vanity metric (looks nice but may not mean much). Another approach could record the number of citations of journal articles from possible target journals on Wikipedia pages at the beginning of the project and at later points in time. This is possible using string searches of Wikipedia articles to find journal names in refs. Comparing rates of increase for journals we added, and journals we didn't add, might give an idea of impact of our project independent of normal growth over time. Ideally one would measure this at several points, like the end of the data input period, the end of the events period, and some time after the "end" of the project. Say every three months for maybe a year and a half.
  1. What are the roles and responsibilities of Principal Investigator and how differ from TI Specialist?
  • The IT specialist would be someone working with the data provider on the initial data extraction, if we can't do that ourselves, and someone has to do that in-house or be hired to do that. The Principal investigator would be responsible for overall planning and organization, for doing most of the content and data analysis to identify authors and subjects, and for ensuring data quality before and after uploading to Wikidata.
  1. How do you distribute USD 2000 for events if you can't meet in-person events?
  • Suppose we hold 2 or 3 events. Let's say at least 2 are online, and we're working with other organizations such as museums, libraries, or srtists' groups. Assume that there are zoom accounts, etc. in place for little or no cost for promotion for online events. I would likely want to have someone speak about their collections and the relevance of this project for their work to increase interest and draw attendees. A stipend for a speaker could be $500. An inperson event, if such became possible, could involve costs for the venue, food, and materials, as well as speakers. So ballpark projected figures for 2 online events with speakers, 2x500, and one in person, 1000 = 2000. Happy to answer more questions :-) Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 17:29, 11 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thanks in advance, and sorry if you read me a little rude, English isn't my mother tongue. Superzerocool (talk) 03:50, 10 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Comment from Wikimedia Foundation GLAM & Culture team[edit]

Hello! We agree that American craft is not well documented on Wikimedia projects and it would be great to address that. You are an experienced Wikimedian with a great track record.

Are you able to firm up at least one of your data partnerships at this stage to demonstrate the feasibility of your proposal? What number of items do you plan to add to Wikidata?

We think it’s important for this to be a more participatory project. Will you involve the community in the data modelling process, e.g, through a Wikidata Project like Performing arts? Can you clarify your targets for event participation?

Thanks, -- GFontenelle (WMF) (talk) 23:57, 3 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Proposal Status Change[edit]

Hi Mary Mark Ockerbloom,

As per our email to you, we are marking this proposal as ineligible because it involves a substantial amount of paid editing of raw content on Wikidata, and there is a lack of a defined plan for volunteer engagement. We post this message on the proposal’s discussion page to ensure proper documentation of the process. There is no need to respond to this message but we are open to answering any questions you may have.

With thanks,

Mercedes Caso (platícame) 01:36, 17 March 2021 (UTC)Reply