Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Canadian French
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|←main page||Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Canadian French|
- The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
- The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
- The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
|What||Value||Example / Explanation|
|Language code||fr-ca (SIL, Glottolog)||A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...|
|Language name||Canadian French||Language name in English|
|Language name||français canadien||Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...|
|Language Wikidata item||Q1450506 - item has currently the following values:
||Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.|
|Directionality||LTR||Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?|
|Links||Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.|
|Project name||Wikipédia français canadien||"Wikipedia" in your language|
|Project namespace||usually the same as the project name|
|Project talk namespace||"Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)|
|Enable uploads||no||Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.|
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
|Project logo||This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).|
|Default project timezone||North América/Montréal||"Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)|
|Additional namespaces||For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".|
|Additional settings||Anything else that should be set|
|submit Phabricator task. It will include everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings. After creating the task, add a link to the comment.|
The French Canadian community is close to 10 million people. We do understand French speakers from France, but as American English evolve in a different way of English from Britain, the French Canadians speak quite a different French. As well, our references and our culture is dramatically different and a Wikipedia in French Canadians will allow us to express our difference.
Sign your request by ending your statement with: --Fic5801 (talk) 20:27, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
- But as American English has evolved in a different way than British English, but shared the same Wikis, so shall Canadian French share the same Wikis as French French.--Prosfilaes (talk) 07:19, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
- For the umptiest time: no. Just no. No separate Wikipedias for British, Irish, American, Canadian, Indian, Australian, South African, ... English. No separate Wikipedias for European, Mexican, and South American Spanish. No separate Wikipedias for European and Brazilian Portuguese. No separate Wikipedias for Dutch and Flemish. No separate Wikipedias for German from Germany, Switzerland and Austria. No separate Wikipedias for Romanian and Moldovan. No separate Wikipedias for Swiss and Italian German. No separate Wikipedias for whatever slightly different national standard of the same language. So again: no separate Wikipedias for metropolitan, Belgian, Swiss and Canadian French. How difficult can it be? Steinbach (formerly Caesarion) 16:41, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. Canadian French is a dialect of the French language. --Agusbou2015 (talk) 17:47, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- There is many Wikipedias on a dialects, for example, Samogitian Wikipedia.— The preceding unsigned comment was added by 7elteven (talk)
- Samogitian has its own ISO 639-3 code. The dialect / language line is often disputed, but I don't know any claim that Canadian French is an independent language.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:49, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Well, Samogitian's ISO 639-3 code is bat-smg, which is no different to fr-ca. SHB2000 (talk | contibs) 12:52, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
- Samogitian's ISO 639-3 code is sgs. bat-smg is an obsolete code used by us, and is not and never was an ISO 639-3 code.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:27, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
- Yes! Wikipedia in French is in the French French speaks by all the Europe. If it was neutral and use a French without anglicismes it will be acceptable. 126.96.36.199 13:32, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
- I tried to find a test-wiki on this language in Incubator and just didn't. It seems that there is no Canadian French Wikipedia in Incubator. --7elteven (talk) 15:19, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- @7elteven: there is even no simple english on the incubator. SHB2000 (talk | contibs | en.wikivoyage | en.wikipedia) 10:17, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
- Strong oppose I'm not sure if this is exactly accurate but we don't have a wiki for Brazilian Portuguese, GB/AU/CA/NZ/ZA english since, after all, there is more in common than differences in both pt and en. The only exception there is from what I know is bat-smg.wikipedia and no/nn.wikipedia. SHB2000 (talk | contibs | en.wikivoyage | en.wikipedia) 10:17, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose. Readers benefit from seeing more content in their language, even if it is written in a different dialect. Having a small Wikipedia with a few dozen articles written in Canadian French does not serve the reader as well as as finding ways of better reflecting Canadian French in the existing French Wikipedia. Also, let's not pretend that Québécois French is the same as Acadien French.Ground Zero (talk) 13:21, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
- Weak support Maybe, but why make a Québécois French wikipedia when we have a French one, but the same time, it can help with Québécois that may mistake some words. 1,027,962,519 Edits (talk) 17:39, 31 January 2023 (UTC)