Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Old Persian

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Old Persian Wikipedia[edit]

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This proposal has been rejected.
This decision was taken by the language committee in accordance with the Language proposal policy based on the discussion on this page.

The closing committee member provided the following comment:

only living languages are accepted
Proposal summary
  • Language details: Old Persian (𐎱𐎠𐎼𐎿, peo ISO 639-2)
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The Old Persian Language reflects a great wealth of culture and literature that existed in the ancient world. Although currently left without a single native speaker, the Old Persian Language lives on in the documentation and archeological remnants of an empire which once spanned a majority of the Indian Sub-continent and Middle-east.

Arguments in favour[edit]

Creation of and Old Persian Wikipedia would allow for internet based compilation and data-basing of textual remnants of the persian empire

Although commonly studied in the field of linguistics, Old Persian is not kept very active; creation of a Wikipedia page would spark a culmination of students of this language and allow the language to be practiced again in an active manour -- 02:17, 23 April 2009

Unfortunately, most of those arguments apply to an Old Persian Wikisource (not Wikipedia... AnonMoos 12:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arguments against[edit]

The main argument against the use of Old Persian is that only about 600 words have survived to the present (including compound words; vaca "bow," vacabara "bowman"). One would not be able to describe anything in enough detail to make a coherent sentence, much less an entire article, however short, relating to any topic. -- 06:03, 31 July 2009

Old Persian is no longer a natively spoken language

Old Persian Cuneiform is not a particularly easy script to type

Old Persian Vocabulary is not entirely modernised -- 02:17, 23 April 2009

Old Persian is an example of a language with great linguistic, historic, cultural, and religious significance which is unfortunately completely unsuited for a Wikipedia. Ancient-language Wikipedias only really make sense where a lot of specific detailed information about the language is available, and there has been a somewhat continuous tradition of use since ancient times (think Latin, classical Greek, Sanskrit, classical Chinese, etc.). None of this applies to Achaemenid Cuneiform Persian. See further my remarks on Phoenician: Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Phoenician 2... AnonMoos 13:03, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Other discussion[edit]

Wikipedia has a tendency towards ancient language with some literary or cultural significance in the modern world; Old Persian stands as documentation of the development of civilisation in the ancient world specifically in reference to the development of the Indo-European branch of language (of which English is a member). The culture of the Old Persian Empire additionally plays a significant cultural role in the progression of modern society as demonstrated by the US Congress Building's testament to Persepolis and its constitution.

Although the Old Persian Language is not attested as being that of a wide literary spectrum, its texts (which have been compiled and archived on the web) are an important manifestation of the ancient historical context that founded civilisation as it exists today; exercise in this language (while it is archaic and scarcely used) could potentially progress the community of all who are interested in linguistic, classical, or historical studies, and is by such ends, a means to keep this ancient language and culture alive. -- 02:39, 23 April 2009 User:Rdabrams