Requests for new languages/Wiktionary Ligure

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Ligure Wiktionary[edit]

main page Request for a new language edition: Wiktionary Ligure
submitted verification final decision
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The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval and notify the Board of Trustees for a possible veto.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code lij (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Ligurian Language name in English
Language name ligure Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q36106 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Ligurian
  • native label (P1705) = Lengoa ligure
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language / Gallo-Italic languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = lij
  • writing system (P282) = Latin script
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 2,000,000, 500,000


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community Kronos (NP), Gastaz(N),[[User:]] (N)
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Académia Ligùstica do Brénno (ligurian language academy) Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name "Wiktionary" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wiktionary talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Europe/Rome "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Proposal[edit]

This language may be dying out, but is still widely spoken by many in in Liguria, northern Italy, and parts of the Mediterranean coastal zones of Corsica, Sardinia, south of France, and Monaco. Ligurian grammar and writing system is classified, regulated and ruled by Académia Ligùstica do Brénno.

  • active wikipedia
  • living language
  • individual language
  • total speakers : 2,000,000
  • officially recognized in Italy (Law 482/1999)
  • classified by UNESCO Red Book for Endangered Languages

Discussion[edit]

Arguments in favour[edit]

  • Conservation for present and future references. I think there will be no problem to find native speakers or persons who have enough knowledges of this language.--Kronos 13:26, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
  • you can't simply put ligurian words into italian wikitionary because aren't the same language, haven't the same definitions, do have different grammar different pronounce and different alphabet; nonetheless the two languages are distinct and somewhat far from each other. A wikitionary themore would be a reference and a standard de facto to guide ligurian community on lij.wikipedia . A lij.wikitionary could also be very useful as future reference as it's an endangered language prone to substitution with the synthetic italian of nowadays. Kronos 10:09, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
  • The ligurian is expression of ones of the most ancient and rich culture of the Mediterranean and is currently used by not less that over 300'000 people. The Ligurian Wiktionary will help to preserve our culture. --Gastaz 10:00, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Arguments against[edit]

  • in liguria today everybody speak italian, it's futile a wiktionary in ligure. you can use it.wiktionary and put in words in ligure--Ilaria 13:24, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
    • Would the Italian Wiktionary accept definitions in Ligurian? As the expected answer is no, you compare functionality that is just not the same. GerardM 06:31, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
      • the definitions no, the words yes. but if sadinian wiktionary hasn't contributions since may 27, 2008, how can we hope that this success can have success ? i think it' s not the time for open a wiktionary in ligure--Ilaria 13:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Other discussion[edit]

Localisation update[edit]

  • Currently 33.10% of the MediaWiki messages and 0.48% of the messages of the extensions used by the Wikimedia Foundation projects have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks, GerardM 12:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)