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Request for launching Wikinews, Dutch version[edit]

Yes check.svg Approved. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:21, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

@StevenJ81: Wow, that is a bit of an anticlimax :) For archive happyness, could you clarify the reasoning of the committee? I'm confident it was discussed in detail given the time it took, but it would be nice to see that reflected here. Thanks! Effeietsanders (talk) 16:56, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
@Effeietsanders: LangCom officially makes its decisions in its email list, not on-wiki. So I would encourage you to read the thread starting here. The policy that governs these decisions can be found at LPP. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:15, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: I don't see any conclusion there - rather a few individual opinions. I don't see any decision made there, to be honest - let alone one where the reasoning is explained. I could deduce a reasoning myself, of course. But for a committee decision, I would expect some level of committee opinion to be formulated. I hope the committee will do that (and I don't mind too much whether that is made on the list, and then copied here, or just put here immediately). Effeietsanders (talk) 18:49, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
@Effeietsanders: I doubt LangCom will have any further comment, so I will take a swing, and invite a correction if necessary:
  • All of the requirements for a new project have been met. There is sufficient content, it is legitimate, and there has been a large enough community working on the test for a sufficiently long period of time.
  • Prima facie, there is reason to believe the community that formed for the Incubator test will remain interested and engaged.
  • This is a separate project from Dutch Wikipedia, so while the objections from some in that wiki's community were noted, there is no reason per Wikimedia policy for the new project not to be approved.
Beyond that, I cannot say. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:11, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Hindi project requests[edit]

Two projects listed below are both looking for approvals now. LangCom did have a question about whether translation of the interface into Hindi at translatewiki.net is proceeding, so in order to keep this moving along I strongly encourage both projects' communities to keep working on translations of messages in the MediaWiki message group at translatewiki.net. StevenJ81 (talk) 22:32, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Request for launching Hindi Wikivoyage[edit]

This project has seen very good activity during the last six months and more than 3 users have been continuously active during this period. We have focused ourselves at improving quality of articles and now all of them appear to be in good conditions. Looking at the recent activity increase we believe this project can be launched and a domain can be allotted to it. Thus, hereby, I request Language committee to take decision regarding its launch. Thanks. --SM7 --talk-- 11:33, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

I don't have enough experience to know whether the number of pages in this test is good or bad for a new Wikivoyage project. However, I have looked at the activity statistics and can affirm what User:SM7 says above. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:25, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
User:StevenJ81, Can you please tell us, what else we have to do? All active users are either admin or one step bellow sysop on hiwiki.☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 06:19, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
@संजीव कुमार: The most important thing you need to do now is to continue (a) creating content, and especially (b) continuing to translate MediaWiki messages at translatewiki.net. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:42, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Request for Approval Hindi Wikiversity[edit]

Dear @ZaDiak, Santhosh.thottingal, Baba Tabita, Millosh, Evertype, MF-Warburg, Antony D. Green, Amire80, and StevenJ81: And Others Language committee Members, In Last few Months the Hindi Wikiversity Worked Well in Field of Computer Science And Coding Related Topic. And Made over 300+ articles and 7000+ edits in last few Month (This Month statistics not show due to technical problems in Tools server). I want to Lang-com have a look on Hindi Wikiversity. Wikiversity have Different project Compare to Wikipedia like project. They not need to Thousands of Articles. If you look at Other Wikiversity. You find that they approved without much Content. Our main problem is that the redirection of hi.wikiversity.org not made on Beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Category:HI. So here I am Requesting to Lang-com. Please have a look on Content. We made Content from English Wikiversity With Best Quality. Two Lang-com Member are Know Hindi Language. So They Can Help to Verify Hindi Wikiversity's Content. I believe that Lang-com Change Status Eligible to Approval Ongoing. Thank you -Jayprakash12345 (talk) 14:13, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Comment. I consider this to be borderline approvable now. I'd like to see a little more content from anyone who is not User:Jayprakash12345, only in order to establish the idea that this is a community project, not a one- or two-person project. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:52, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: Thank you very Much Sir Can you Solve our Redirection Problem Because Content is not being used by anyone. You can Understand this Problem, @J ansari, Suyash.dwivedi, Swapnil.Karambelkar, and Shivamsaini360: Can you Contribute more in wikiversity project?-Jayprakash12345 (talk) 05:48, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
certainly ,i would be adding more content in near future.Swapnil.Karambelkar (talk) 08:27, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
@Jayprakash12345: Now My Examination are going to End. After that I will Put Enough Article.-Shivamsaini360 (talk) 13:33, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
@Jayprakash12345: You'd have to put in a bug/task at phabricator to fix that. @MF-Warburg: Is it better to fix that redirect problem, or simply to go ahead and get this project out into the subdomain? StevenJ81 (talk) 13:49, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
@MF-Warburg and StevenJ81: I am fasting in this project. Because I talked with some College which connect us without any grants. So Project approval or Redirection Help us to Connect various College. I can take responsibility of Activity on Hindi WIkiversity. -Jayprakash12345 (talk) 14:18, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
@Jayprakash12345: Could you please say that a different way? The only use of "fast" as a verb in English is to refrain from eating for a period of time. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:39, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: So Sorry Sir, But my means that Quickness. I am en-1 User. I know that My English is Very Bad. So once again sorry.-Jayprakash12345 (talk)
@Jayprakash12345: Since I am hi-(-4), I have no room to complain. But tell me what you are trying to say. Are you telling me that you are in a hurry to get this done, because you are trying to connect it with some colleges/universities in India? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:58, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: Right guess sir. I am trying to connect it with some colleges/universities in India. If Langcom feared that the community will reduce its activity after approval. Dont worry about that. If langcom or meta want my national data or something. I can provide them. We made Hindi Wikiversity channel Here. And aware peoples about Wikiversity and Wikimedia. Introduction to Hindi Wikiversity and Wikimedia in English for this purposes-Jayprakash12345 (talk) 15:36, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
@MF-Warburg and StevenJ81: Sir, Am I authorized user who can put a task at phabricator? Now Hindi Wikiversity got rank 3rd on beta Wikiversity with Having about 400 content. -Jayprakash12345 (talk) 12:40, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
@Jayprakash12345: You can put a task at phabricator; anyone can (if not blocked). However, no task to create a wiki (which is what I assume you want to do) will be considered a valid task unless the Language Committee approves your project. So if I were you, I would not open a task at phabricator. Wait until the Language Committee acts. StevenJ81 (talk) 12:43, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
@MF-Warburg and StevenJ81: Sir, Now HIndi WIkiversity Have 400+ and 10000+ Edits. And Got 2nd Rank on Beta Wikiversity. Please Consider Hindi Wikiversity. We are facing Problems on Beta about Redirection. -Jayprakash12345 (talk) 06:06, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Atikamekw[edit]

I have been working closely with Benoit Rochon, president of Wikimedia Canada, to try to get the Wikipedia Test project in Atikamekw ready for approval. Benoit has now reported the following on my Incubator talk page, which I have confirmed independently:
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Bonjour Steven. Thank you for your advice. Blog post has been published by WMF. Also Radio-Canada did an interview about Atikamekw project. It's really cool how things are going well. Now I want to give you a clear overview where we are, since they announced at Radio-Canada that Wikipetia Atikamekw will be launch on 21 June... so I really wish we/they can do it.
  • Three participants with at least ten edits each Yes check.svg Done
  • Translatewiki Most important messages (100%) Yes check.svg Done
  • Translatewiki MediaWiki core messages (17%) Yes check.svg Done
  • Messages transferred from translatewiki.net over to the Wikimedia wikis Yes check.svg Done
  • Fallback language is French Yes check.svg Done
  • 100-150 real articles with content. to be done
  • Translate as far as possible the MediaWiki messages group. to be done
Now, to who (or where) WMCA & partners make commitments? And to who (or where) the techno-linguists certify to LangCom that this language is correct, accurate, etc.

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The one real task left to finish is to get more articles up from stub-level to a point of real content. I gave them the advice of 100–150 articles, because (a) that's about half their current article total for now, and (b) I believe there is commitment from both the authorities of the Atikamekw Nehirowisiw Nation and from Wikimedia Canada to actively support the project further. (Benoit can elaborate further.) Accordingly, I'd like to suggest that the wheels start turning on approving this project, with the understanding that the test community will work to continue on the very enthusiastic and aggressive path they have been taking. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:21, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello, as you saw grant request and blog post, we are a team : people from Wikimedia Canada, Leipzig University (de), Outaouais University (ca), working with Atikamekw Nation and this collaboration will continue over years. I am (we are) available to help the LangCom in any way, and bring this test project to the next level! Contact me, techno-linguists or teachers for further information. Thank you for your time. Best regards, Benoit Rochon (talk) 13:55, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
Good day, I am the VP of Wikimedia Canada and I developed the Strategic Plan for the next 5 years for our chapter, and as Benoit already said, I can confirm that supporting the Wikipetia Atikamekw Nehiromowin is at the center of our efforts, even after the completion of the current project grant. It is one of three programs that I planned for our requested APG that is suppose to start in July. The project will also be presented at Wikimania, as Benoit said. The wheels are turning and they are not stopping after it is out the Incubator, all the reverse. It is our intent to use this project to develop a toolkit to emulate for other First Nations in Canada (and perhaps worldwide), and for that we are supported by university teachers in Quebec and a linguist from Germany. As Benoit said, the project is supported by "tehcno-linguists" of the Atikamekw language from the Institut Linguistique Atikamekw (ILA), which the organization responsible to standardize the language, and they can provide the confirmation you require to confirm that the language in the project is accurate. Thank you for spending time to streamline the process of approval. Amqui (talk) 22:38, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia Atikamekw logo
Press review
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Français

This project is on track for the past 4 years. Why is it still under review? StevenJ81, MF-Warburg, Amqui, make this happen. Best regards, Benoit Rochon (talk)

Because this is the first month in those 4 years where the there is a 3rd continuous month of activity (as defined). -- 08:50, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Ho I see. In fact 6 months, considering February where User:Kinew1975 did 10 edits, but still grey out Face-tongue.svg Lol. Thank you MF-W, we hope wp-atj will be considered soon. Best regards, Benoit Rochon (talk) 02:41, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
And, for what it's worth, excluding one month where the #3 contributor had 9 edits (which isn't 10, I'll grant), it goes all the way back to October. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:42, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Wikimania 2017 Montreal, submission accepted:‎ Indigenous Knowledge on Wikipedia: Lessons Learned from the Project Wikipetia Atikamekw Nehiromowin. Benoit Rochon (talk) 14:35, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Amazing work. Would be great to see the Jun 21st deadline meet. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:39, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

I think all requirements are met, so what are the next steps? Thank you, Amqui (talk) 15:34, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

LangCom is doing final verifications now. StevenJ81 (talk) 22:24, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Amqui (talk) 13:53, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Approved. Congratulations! See phabricator:T167714 for details on the move from Incubator to its own subdomain. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:45, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done You can find the new Wikipedia at atj:. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:08, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Request for launching Wikivoyage Tamil[edit]

Tamil wikivoyage has grown big with 232 articles. Please considering launching of Tamil wikivoyage. -- Balajijagadesh (talk) 16:49, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

@Balajijagadesh: In order for a project to be approved, there needs to be a community there that is regularly active and continuing to create new content. See LPP. An "active test project" usually means that a minimum there are at least three editors making at least ten edits per month for at least three months, and continuing onward from those three months until the project is approved and crated. incubator:Wy/ta does not meet those requirements yet. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:26, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: Hi.. Thanks for the detailed information. -- Balajijagadesh (talk) 04:51, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Flower of the month[edit]

Flower of the month

Dear members of WMF Language Committee (Amire80, N-true, Antony D. Green, Bèrto 'd Sèra, Maor X, GerardM, Jon Harald Søby, Klbroome, Arria Belli, MF-Warburg, Evertype, Millosh, Baba Tabita, SPQRobin, Santhosh Thottingal, Satdeep Gill, ZaDiak).

For your huge efforts on language diversity and especially on small language projects I want to present you the Flower of the month.

Best regards, --Holder (talk) 20:01, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! --MF-W 03:34, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Ingush[edit]

I would like to point out that the Ingush Wikipedia (incubator:Wp/inh) might be ready ([47]). It's been active for a long time and considering its size it is outgrowing the incubator :) --OosWesThoesBes (talk) 16:26, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Request for Status page[edit]

So, I've been working on incubator:Wt/sco, and I was wondering if the status page (Language committee/Status/wt/sco) could be re-activated with new stats. --AmaryllisGardener talk 23:18, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

@MF-Warburg: Would you know how to get this done? (I see you deleted the page) Thanks, --AmaryllisGardener talk 01:01, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
@AmaryllisGardener: Hi. LangCom isn't using those old status pages any more. If a test project seems on its face to meet approval criteria LangCom does a deeper-dive investigation and then makes a decision. As someone who is effectively a clerk for LangCom, I would share the following:
  • Your test project is probably large enough to meet the size criterion for approval, though adding additional content will always help.
  • Both incubator:Wt/sco and Requests for new languages/Wiktionary Scots have links to both an activity tool and a localization statistics tool. Check both of those.
  • In order for a project to be approvable, it must have an active test community. Generally, this means that there must be at least three active editors—"active" defined as having at least ten edits in a month—for at least three consecutive months, and then continuing on until the project is approved and exported. So far, this project has only you, and only for one month. (My edits last month were in the nature of housekeeping and don't count, and there were only six.)
  • For second and subsequent projects in a language, further work must be done on translating the interface at translatewiki.net. Certainly all messages in the "core MediaWiki messages" group must be translated, and notable additional progress beyond that must happen.
  • Once the rest of this has resolved, LangCom may still wish to ask what the relationship of this project would be to the Scots language category within English Wiktionary. Do the projects include duplicate information? Do they both need to exist? I don't know that LangCom will give you any trouble about this, but you may wish to consider in advance what your plans might be.
Since you're a very experienced Wikipedian with mop experience, I'd encourage you to apply for test administrator status at incubator:I:RFTA. That gives you a partial administrator toolkit that you'd probably find helpful.
Any questions, please let me know. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:12, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: Thanks, I'll follow some of your advice, and will try to recruit more editors to work on the wiki. --AmaryllisGardener talk 18:29, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Ilocano Wikipedia[edit]

Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Ilocano Wikipedia has been closed by me as obviously invalid. I'd appreciate if a LangCom member could review my closure and confirm it or revert it. Thanks, —MarcoAurelio 11:07, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

(not LangCom member) I concur with MarcoAurelio's assessment. StevenJ81 (talk) 12:47, 29 June 2017 (UTC)