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Discussion about closure of Cebuano Wikipedia[edit]

The discussion at Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Cebuano Wikipedia has been going on for a while. Would it be possible for Langcom to look at it, now that the discussion has had a large amount of time to proceed? DraconicDark (talk) 15:26, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Discussion has been underway at LangCom since 1 February. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:27, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Closed as unsuccessful (project remains open). StevenJ81 (talk) 14:34, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Request for Approving Pashto Wikivoyage[edit]

Pashto Wikivoyage ( Wy/ps) project has very good activity during the last six months, and we had 3 users at first afterwards we became four In January we became 7 people's. There is more than 200 main space pages. I request Language committee to take decision regarding its launch. Thanks. Bloch khan (talk) 01:47, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Basque Wikisource[edit]

Hello! As stated by StevenJ81 here, we have been working on Basque Wikisource for a while. All the criteria in Catanalysis are now on, and we have translated all the messages in Translatewiki. So, I ask again to activate Basque Wikisource in its own subdomain. Thanks! -Theklan (talk) 10:42, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

@Theklan: Let me ask you a question. Are these "cool projects to add more texts in the next months" now complete? Or are they going to go on for a while?
I ask for two related reasons. First, LangCom does not want to spin off separate projects unless they are going to remain active. Especially with Wikisource, there is not really a downside to the content remaining on multilingual Wikisource for a while. So if you are going to keep working on this for a while, then there is a reason to spin off the project. If you're done for a while, then things should stay where they are. Second, the Basque content is still just a little small. The smallest independent Wikisource that remains open and was not grandfathered in is about 144 pages right now. There is not a formal minimum, to be sure, but if you got your content to 150 pages, it would make your case better. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:34, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: We are doing them, we have a group of librarians starting to work on Wikisource, we had a meeting last week with the Secretary of Culture and some works are currently being done (can't explain them in public now, sorry)... we had a workshop with wikimedians, and this year some university texts are going to be free so we can upload here. And we are starting a project with a basque literature database that has all the classics digitalized. So yes, there will be work.
On the other hand, we have much more than 150 pages. Look at the subcategories. @KRLS:, maybe you can give us some numbers of the pages you moved to subcategories in the last month. -Theklan (talk) 15:48, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
Fair enough. (On multilingual Wikisource, it's a good idea to keep all your pages in the language root category, as well as in subcategories, so that it's easy for LangCom to see quickly what's going on.)
Give me about a week to clear a couple of other things up at LangCom, and then I'll take this to them. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:56, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
It would be a good idea if we were planning to be there forever. But as we are growing, categorization, making templates or organizing it as a real thing is a better idea. Everything is in subcategories, by the way. -Theklan (talk) 15:21, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
@Theklan: Pages can be in both subcategories and the root category. I fully agree that organizing what you have is important. But the parser function {{pagesincategory}} is dumb, and doesn't count pages in subcategories, too. So as long as you're in Multilingual Wikisource, it's still good to have pages in the language root category (also). StevenJ81 (talk) 15:27, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: Now, there are 186 pages "Not proofread‎", 345 pages Proofread,‎ and 6 pages validated (more info: Category:Zuzenketa-egoeraren orriak) from 27 indexs (more info Category:Indizeak euskaraz). This number will grow quickly, because there are 284 transcribed works that it doesn't use proofreading extensions yet. For example, there is the transcription Gero (629 pages), but it's not migrated to proofreading extensions Index:AxularGero.djvu. I see that you did 54 contributions to multilingual wikisource, consequently you know that Multilingual Wikisource is an hostile environment for newbie users, because a category tree is not the best way to begin and a category or a subpage is not the best showcase. We need this subdomain, because we need a friendly environment, own gadgets, common and translated templates and a great showcase for this "cool projects".--KRLS (talk) 00:43, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Currently discussing at LangCom. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:05, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

Need help[edit]

Hello committee, I would like to point out that the "Translate this page" link, does not work and Standard Moroccan Tamazight can not be selected from the list of languages and preferences. when the cursor hovers over the language link, a small bubble appeaappears indicate that the language is "Undefined". I think that the problem might be resolved on this page, Which contains this file with many ISO codes for many languages except the Standard Moroccan Tamazight ISO code. I think the problem will be will be resolved by changing that file with this updated one. Brahim-essaidi (talk) 16:33, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

You probably need to take this to Phabricator. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:47, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
@StevenJ81 I have tried but I can't login to Phabricator on my server. This is the message I get (Forbidden, You don't have permission to access / on this server.) I will ask another user to do it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brahim-essaidi (talk) 17:22, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
@MF-Warburg and Amire80: Perhaps one of you guys can help with this? StevenJ81 (talk) 17:29, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Updating codelookup's list of codes will not have any effect on which languages you can translate to using Special:Translate. The solution instead is, I guess, to translate zgh's MediaWiki interface to such an extent that it will be exported from and therefore be made known to MediaWiki that this language exists. --MF-W 01:13, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
@MF-Warburg I don't understand enough, can you please explain more. What do we need to do exactly? Brahim-essaidi (talk) 05:47, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
@Brahim-essaidi: I see the problem now. Here's what you need to do:
  • Go to Get yourself added as a translator for zgh (and any other language you'd like, such as shi).
  • Start working on translation interface. First, start with "MediaWiki (most important messages)" here. Then continue with "MediaWiki core" here.
  • The first group is a subset of the second group. Once the second group is over 13% complete, that will trigger a download to the Wikimedia wikis, and zgh will become active. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:28, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikiquote Sakha[edit]

IMHO, this project is now a little active, although it's still premature to consider its creation, shouldn't we mark this proposal as eligible? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:34, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done (Marked eligible.) StevenJ81 (talk) 15:23, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Ancash Quechua[edit]

IMHO, this project is now a little active, although it's still premature to consider its creation, shouldn't we mark this proposal as eligible? -- Michael junior obregon pozo (talk) 14:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

You never answered my question there: Do you have community consensus to combine these tests? At minimum, you need to leave a question open for a week to see if anyone responds. But I'm concerned you've been acting unilaterally on this. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:56, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: I just gave a proposal, then a user unified the 2 projects into one.-- Michael junior obregon pozo (talk) 15:09, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
I know. I'm not happy he did so. But he did it because you said you were combining the tests. So I kick that back to you. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:20, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
So how can a vote be held to have the consensus of the community-- Michael junior obregon pozo (talk) 15:30, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Put a page in each test ... one can actually redirect to the other ... posing the question, and asking for community comment. Also place a notice of it at Incubator's Community Portal. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:39, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. -- Michael junior obregon pozo (talk) 16:03, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Not marking this "eligible" yet, pending the above. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:43, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
Discussion on Incubator resolved. Now marking this project eligible. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:00, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Notification about two proposed project approvals[edit]

Cf. Notification about proposed approvals

Gorontalo Wikipedia[edit]

The LangCom intends to approve Gorontalo Wikipedia. If you have objections to that based on the language proposal policy, please say so on this page in the next seven days.

For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 15:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Please don't vote here. This is for objections. --MF-W 11:33, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Basque Wikisource[edit]

The LangCom intends to approve Basque Wikisource. (Note that this project has many pages in subcategories.) If you have objections to that based on the language proposal policy, please say so on this page in the next seven days.

For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 15:10, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure where approvals are announced at Wikisource, but I will note that both of these projects are now approved. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:00, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

So, another set of 2011 series of non-"Verified as eligible" requests[edit]

I think instead of stick on discussing Montenegrin which result a lot of wait wait wait... Why don't we continue discussing the possible eligibility and/or rejection on those year-old requests? Judging anyone of those projects are kindly easier than Montenegrin:

--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:54, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Since you follow LangCom, you know I run these through a few at a time. The first five are queued on my computer and ready to go. If someone decides based on what you've written here, great. If not, I don't plan to let grass grow under my feet while waiting for them to finish debating the other topic. StevenJ81 (talk) 12:32, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
See comments on first five. "Rejecting as stale" basically means that it could have been eligible, but nobody has ever shown up to work on a test. (There may possibly be a page or two from the time of the request, but then nothing.) If this were a new request, we'd mark it "on hold" and give people some time to show up. But given that 6+ years have passed, and nobody has followed up, LangCom is comfortable rejecting, with an invitation to revisit if anyone ever decides to work on the test. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:36, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Already one week past, the Simple German one can be rejected, personally. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:12, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
@Liuxinyu970226: Really, we're all volunteers here. You can see where I live from my user page. Seven days hadn't passed when I went offline last night my time. Don't start nudging until it's been a day or two past time (at least). StevenJ81 (talk) 13:23, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
For the Colloquial Cantonese proposal, what it describe is actually an alternative (invented) orthography for the Cantonese. It suggested using characters that are historically used to denote some sounds in Cantonese instead of characters that are commonly used nowadays, and then it also proposed using the Bopomofo phonetic symbol which is a set of phonetic writing system invented in China last century and currently mostly in use in Taiwan to write some words that have no canonical corresponding character. I haven't encounter or even heard about anyone writing in such way in real life, and searching the proposed autonym in google yield nothing relevant. C933103 (talk) 09:05, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
See comments on second five. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:40, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Guianan Wikipedia[edit]

Hi, I just wanna know why the Guianan Wikipedia project has not been approved yet, because I think I did everything I needed to do ! LeGuyanaisPure (talk) 05:01, 14 March 2018 (UTC)