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Wiktionary Minangkabau[edit]

Hello. The Minangkabau Wiktionary recently saw a significant increase in its activities. We now have a regular pool of active contributors and recently-acquired dictionaries and other needed resources for a new project. Therefore, we would like the Committee to consider it for the next step into final approval. Thank you. Muhraz (talk) 10:07, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Activity only really started in December. It would be good to wait at least a little bit more. There should usually be at least 3 months of consecutive activity. Please also work to complete the interface translation (at least the most-used messages). --MF-W 16:47, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
As our Wiktionary has been steadily (and increasingly) active since the last message and the core messages are being translated, I would like to request for the Committee to reconsider it for release. Thanks. Muhraz (talk) 03:41, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
You and the community are doing a great job, @Muhraz. Still, I'm going to hold this request until you have sufficient activity in April, for two reasons:
  • 3 months is the minimum activity requirement, but 4—5 months is better.
  • There is still a technical problem in creating new wikis. See phabricator:T212881. Right now, there are three approved projects (Western Armenian Wikipedia, Neapolitan Wikisource, Hindi Wikisource) and two other wikis ahead of you in line. So nothing will happen on this for a while, anyway. It's better to continue to show your community's commitment by continuing to create content in Incubator for right now. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:37, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Very well then, we would be content to wait until next month. We expect to maintain the same level of activity, and I hope that the Committee would immediately consider our project for approval when the technical problems are fixed. Muhraz (talk) 15:43, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: It seemed to be fixed on 26 March. phab:T212881#5056630 Bennylin 03:12, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
@Bennylin: I just found out myself, and in any case have been very busy IRL. (I'm a volunteer, not paid staff.) I will get to this shortly. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
I know, none of us are. It's just that you're the only person that I can ping. Bennylin 00:38, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, any update on this? Muhraz (talk) 09:44, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi @StevenJ81: do you have any information about the Minangkabau Wiktionary and what should we do to make it happen soon? Harditaher (talk) 01:30, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
@Harditaher: I'm afraid I don't. I've been extremely busy IRL the last several weeks, and haven't been able to focus on this. I will try to give this some attention this week. (But please don't forget: most of us here are volunteers, and we sometimes can't spend the time we'd like on this.) StevenJ81 (talk) 13:40, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks @StevenJ81:, We're looking forward to hearing it from you. Best. Harditaher (talk) 05:18, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, hello, any update on the approval status of this? Sorry for pinging all members of langcom: @Amire80:, @Antony D. Green:, @Evertype:, @GerardM:, @Jon Harald Søby:, @Klbroome:, @Maor X:, @MF-Warburg:, @Millosh:, @N-true:, @Santhosh.thottingal:, @Satdeep Gill:, @SPQRobin:, but it's been months since the project should be approved already.

Comparing with the latest Wiktionary that got approved:

Tacawit Minang
Speakers 2.1 million to 4.5 million 5.5 million to 8.5 million
Number of entries in incubator 1 819 (> 3 years) 5 350 (1 year)
Number of admins 1 6
Number of people in discussion page 2 32 at least
Localization status NA 503 Service Unavailable NA 503 Service Unavailable
# of translators in translatewiki 3 6

Bennylin 21:13, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia for Laki language[edit]

We have worked on the incubator version of Laki since 2012. It's discouraged the language speaker and contributors and if Wikimedia foundation submit the language and allocate a formal subdomain (lki.wikipedia.org) we start develping the Wikipedia for this language and encourage all of us.

Bests, Miladrahimi93 (talk) 19:47, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

WP Incubator test wikis awaiting content verification[edit]

Hello. There are several projects placed in this category. What is the overhauling time required for them to be definitely approved and open as independent WP? Because :

  • Wp/skr : ongoing since 10/22/2018
  • Wp/gcr : ongoing since 12/13/2018
  • Wp/mnw : ongoing since 12/17/2018

It's been more than 6 months! Where are the discussions on the working of these overhaulings? Is this a normal delay? Thanks. Axel xadolik (talk) 09:56, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

@Axel xadolik: Your point is well taken.
  • I have been busy IRL. I'm now trying to get some things back on track (see below). Thank you for your understanding about that.
  • On one hand, we should absolutely get those projects (including also Wt/shy) verified and in the queue.
  • On the other hand, there is still a technical issue in getting projects created. Even if these projects are approved, they're still going to sit for a while until the technical problem is fixed, and then until the two fully approved projects pending creation (Hindi and Neapolitan Wikisources) get created. In April, I didn't feel like there was a hurry because of that. But at this point I want to get these shaken loose.
  • There's not actually a mechanism in place formally as to what to do if we cannot get content verified. I'm consulting someone on that question now.
Again, thank you for your continuing support and your patience. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:56, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Are the technical issues fixed? (Times are changing, said Dylan; but Issues are staying, I'd may rhyme... ;) ) Regards Axel xadolik (talk) 10:51, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Alas, no. (How Western Armenian got created I'm not sure, but apparently the answer is no.) StevenJ81 (talk) 16:51, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
This must drive motivated contributors to despair. After several hundred projects that have been successfully transferred for years, we could assume that the procedures are well-run routines. These delays are very annoying. Axel xadolik (talk) 21:31, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Request for a re-evaluation of Test Igbo Wiktionary[edit]

Hi StevenJ81, I write to request a re-evaluation for the above-named test wiki. This test wiki has been consistent for some months now, so I would say that it is no longer a person making contributions in this Wiktionary project. The project now has a community working on it. Also, the test Wiktionary now has an administrator.

Having said the above, I think it should be re-evaluated and possibly approved, thank you.

Regards,

--Uzoma 21:59, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Back in business (I hope)[edit]

Hi, all. I have been extremely busy IRL the last 4–6 weeks. Always remember that we're all volunteers here; sometimes volunteers can do more work, and sometimes less. Still, I apologize for all the things that have been left in limbo recently.

I'm trying to get some of these items back in process now. Please let me work through them in a rational way. I will try to address the questions and requests that have come in here and on Incubator in the next week or two. StevenJ81 (talk) (LangCom clerk) 14:27, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Item #1: Getting already-approved projects created[edit]

Although Western Armenian Wikipedia was created recently, there is still apparently a problem with creating new wikis. (See phab:T212881.) So the Hindi and Neapolitan Wikisource projects are still in Multilingual Wikisource and can't be moved out yet.

Accordingly, I can't say there is a rush to look at projects that are not-yet-approved. They're just going to be waiting anyway. I am going to prioritize getting language verification on the four projects that are tentatively approved, pending language verification: Wikipedias in Guiane Creole, Mon and Saraiki, and Wiktionary in Tacawit. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:51, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Dear Steven, Welcome back. Your great contribution in Wiki projects is really appreciateable and we always look towards your attention for our language wikis. I also request you for your kindness on Saraiki Wikipedia regarding its approval and own site. With best regards, Engr.ismailbhutta (talk) 17:59, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Request for a vote-judge within langcom mailing list for Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Hanja 2 eligibility[edit]

Because, as far as I can see, there are a number of users who support creating a separated "Korean Wikipedia" uses Hanja scripts, which can simply fall into the 2019 revision I judgement case. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:01, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Right at this moment I am trying to catch up on some other things. I will try to get to this by sometime this (northern) summer. But there is a long queue ahead of this right now. StevenJ81 (talk) 04:06, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Two site renaming request on Meta RFC[edit]

I have no idea that why there are no man to make decisions to both:

  • Requests for comment/Rename no.wikipedia to nb.wikipedia: I can see some oppose comments, concerning that the de facto nowiki contains not only Bokmål but also Riksmål contents, but has mentioned entirely no example of this, other than this one, I see no reason to actually oppose that (the so-called "technically not possible" was just hit-faced by Foundation Wiki rename, that renamed from wikimediafoundation.org to foundation.wikimedia.org, and a lot of other so-called "reasons" that nsaa said are seems contested by the proposer and Liu...?!)
  • Requests for comment/Rename nah.wikipedia to nci.wikipedia: Although Meta-Wiki doesn't allow Snowball closure and hence at least one opposite comment should happen as what Ricardo gs said, I don't know if there are really having fair reasons not to do so? By Marrovi's additional materials, it looks like the de facto nahwiki has served too many member languages, despite have native speakers or not, this is, as Liu..., an easier-to-judge "violation of MediaWiki Code of Conduct", as CoC require projects to be normally either "one language per one subdomain", or "a multilingual wiki with English as default language, and Translate extension installed", except for Chapters', private and/or fishball wikis.

I would really love to see how members of language committee consider both DIV--117.13.95.200 08:56, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

As long as this is not solved, I do not think it is correct to say that wiki renames are now "technically possible". Therefore any discussions are pointless. --MF-W 10:00, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
This IP user mentioned Foundation Wiki, which afaik that's a successful domain renaming that is happened after this Phabricator task you mentioned. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:56, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
Then please ask the developers why it hasn't left any traces in the bug. I guess that this is because foundationwiki is a standalone wiki, i.e. not included in CentralAuth, and therefore has a lot less problems for renaming. --MF-W 08:38, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Saraiki Wiktionary[edit]

In Saraiki Wiktionary Wt/skr most work has been done. More than 4000 pages have been made. It should be approved because editor are not feeling good to write categories repeatedly in each page and link. Hoping to be approved --Sraiki 17:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

I need you to have at least three registered editors making ten contributions each every month. You're not quite there.
Additionally—and I think I've mentioned this somewhere else—your pages are not very robust. They may contain minimal definitions, but most Wiktionaries include pronunciations, grammatical forms, examples, translations, etc. I'm not seeing any of that.
If you get your contributions up to 3 registered x 10 contributions each consistently, I'm willing to put the project in front of LangCom. But I cannot guarantee that LangCom will think the pages are sufficiently developed. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:34, 17 July 2019 (UTC)