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Guianan Wikipedia[edit]

Hi, I know I ask you all time the same thing, but it's really important for me ! I just wanna know if it's possible that you can activate the project now because we have filled the pages, as you asked us, we have not filled all the pages yet, but we are trying to fill all the pages pages by the end of this month, we have all already filled over 1,500 pages(we have filled all the pages of these list : Artik vital Nivo 1, Artik vital Nivo 2 and Artik vital) and we just miss it to fill about between 500 and 750 pages, but please activate the Guianan Wikipedia because it will make almost one year I work every week on this project, and it's not really a problem for me because I like to believe that I give my language a chance to grow and open up to the world, but I think it'll be better if you activate this language because I'm losing some hope and especially the community too (FanmDjok and Léon973) about this project, it's not that we wanna give up, it's just, you know, one year and nothing has changed, just please, I don't intend to do for after leaving and forgetting the project, no I wanna develop the project and see it grow again and again and it's really to save my native language who starts to disappear a little because of the French language in French Guiana, I would like to give to my language a chance to be reborn, but for that, we need you to activate and officially create the Guianan Wikipedia, so please activate the project please !!! LeGuyanaisPure (talk) 22:42, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

M. leGuyanais, et vos amis: J'ai vous dis plusieurs fois qu'il faut augmenter vos pages. Un projet où toutes les page sont ébauches ne sera pas approuvé. Ne créez plus d'autres pages; concentrez vos efforts sur l'augmentation des pages qui existent maintenant. S'il vous plaît!
Faites ça pour deux mois, et après parlons-en à nouveau. OK? StevenJ81 (talk) 21:39, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Encore, on a passé ce mois-ci à remplir plus de la moitié des pages qui existent déjà ! Mais bon si vous voulez que l'on les remplissent toutes, on va le faire, d'accord !!! LeGuyanaisPure (talk) 03:07, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

We did it StevenJ81, as expected we filled the most possible page, we worked a lot during these holidays and on two months as you asked us. Now as promised please activate the language, create the Guianan Wikipedia please !!! LeGuyanaisPure (talk) 13:52, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

How to make approved Cantonese Wiktionary/Wiktionary projects?[edit]

What steps should be done to make verified the above projects to make verified for Cantonese language in Wiktionary I want to know.Thank you!—Asdfugil (talk) 00:38, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

@Asdfugil: Are you asking how to get the Meetei projects marked "eligible"? If so, there isn't much for you to do, really. I simply have to get around to them. At this point I'm running back and forth between old unresolved requests and new requests, so please be patient. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:54, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
For approval, you have to wait for several decades (maybe 2050?) until phab:T30441 get fixed. -- 00:56, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

@StevenJ81: I meant how to get the project approved. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Asdfugil (talk) 11:39, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Actually, this project is very close to being approvable. Just do the following;
  1. Do your best to finish translating the core message group at
  2. Do your best to have at least three registered editors make at least ten edits on the project every single month. See Catanalysis here. Currently, this project is borderline, and I could probably get LangCom to pass on it. But if this doesn't go to LangCom until August, do be sure to have three editors working in August as well.
  3. Keep working on the project in Incubator in the meantime.
StevenJ81 (talk) 13:48, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
@Asdfugil: I'm afraid that I currently can't agree approving, because as that IP user pointed, there's code renaming request existing for this language, this means that if we approved and created this project before renaming that Wikipedia, there will have many bugs that too hard to fix. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:40, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
@Liuxinyu970226: Not your call. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. StevenJ81 (talk) 22:45, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Proposing soft-close on Albanian Wikinews[edit]

Albanian Wikinews hasn't had a new article for at least three years since this (linked) article. If I create a separate subpage of closure proposal, the result would be soft-close, which I previously proposed at its (near-empty) village pump. The discussion hasn't made progress for one week, so I'm re-proposing the soft-close here. If I must create a separate subpage, then I must do so. --George Ho (talk) 17:32, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

I don't think you have to. The reason the others did that was that the original proposal was to close and lock. This would constitute a decision by the community itself to soft close. That said ...
I would suggest the following: Find someone at Albanian Wikipedia and post a notice there (in Albanian), and give people another week on that. If nobody objects, then someone should post a soft-close page (in Albanian) on Albanian Wikinews, moving the original main page, etc., as described in the Finnish Wikinews discussion. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:53, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
I did a week ago what you suggested and am awaiting the next move. --George Ho (talk) 05:46, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
I think you've done what you needed. See if User:1l2l3k is willing to write up a note for you; it really ought to be in Albanian. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:48, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Update: the consensus agreed to soft-close the project. George Ho (talk) 22:50, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Requests for comment/Rename no.wikipedia to nb.wikipedia[edit]

I need help from langcom on decision of this RFC. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:27, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Request to approve wp/zgh[edit]

Hello langcom,

We have translated all messages in MediaWiki (most important messages), and over 30% of the total Core MediaWiki messages, and we keep translating and adding content. So, please check if this is enough to be approved or we still have something to do.--Brahim-essaidi (talk) 18:03, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

@Brahim-essaidi: In a way, you are at a very difficult stage of the process right now. After all,
  • You've translated the interface enough for an approval.
  • The test project is active enough for an approval.
  • There are 750 pages or so in the test.
So what's missing? In one word, detail. The project is improving, but it still has too many stubs (ébauches). An active project will always have some, to be sure. But a solid Wikipedia needs for its articles not to be mostly stubs.
Put yourself in the shoes of someone who just uses Wikipedia to look things up. You will tend to go to a well-established Wikipedia, like French or English, and look up what you want to look up. On that page, generally, you will find a reasonable amount of detail. You'll find references to support why the articles say what they do—and that you can use if you want more detail. In other words, you'll find an encyclopedia article. If the pages do not have that kind of detail, then you won't have learned what you want to learn. And if that happens enough, you'll stop using Wikipedia to look things up.
A new project like Wp/zgh is never going to have as many pages as an established project. But the pages that exist need to have a reasonable amount of detail, for the very same reason. If people start trying to use Tamazigh Wikipedia and find that the pages do not have enough meaningful detail, they'll stop using it. And then all your work will be a waste.
And that's why we don't approve projects until their pages are better developed. The reason this stage is difficult is because it's hard to quantify this requirement.
I went to 20 random pages on Wp/zgh. Of those, exactly one page was not a stub (and it didn't have a reference). Exactly one other page had a reference (but it was a stub). And one other page tried to have a reference, but a template needed fixing. That's what you need to fix to get this project approved.
What you really need to do at this point is this: Do not make any more pages right now. Instead, take the pages you have already that are only a few sentences long. Add content to them and add references to them. As your goal, have the pages reach at least the level of Start class on English Wikipedia or l'avancement Bon Début on French Wikipedia. Once you've made good progress on that, let me know. I really want to get your project approved, but I need to see progress along these lines first. Good luck. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:16, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: Thank you sir, I will transmit this to the project contributors to work on it together.--Brahim-essaidi (talk) 22:34, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Request for approval of Wikipedia/ Moroccan language wp/ary[edit]

Hello everyone,

The Moroccan language (learn more) is widely spoken by more than 30 million people, it is technically characterizing the native language of North Africans. I would like to show to the our community a more sophisticated Wikipedia version by suggesting you to approve the language. There is a great potential for Moroccan moderators to start developing this new perspective of Wikipedia when it comes to their native language. Here is some work which has been done in the last couple years:

I request you to approve the language on Wikipedia as a first initiative. Thank you! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nassimosaz (talk) 15:30, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

@Nassimosaz: Thank you for making the request. You are right that some good work has been done recently. But right now the test project is not ready to be approved, for a few reasons:
  • Right now, the project has fewer than 100 pages in main article space. We normally don't approve projects that small.
  • Right now, the project does not have enough regular activity. For a project to be eligible for approval, there must be a community including at least three registered editors making at least ten edits per month each for a minimum of three straight months, and then continuing to approval.
  • We cannot approve a project when the most important MediaWiki interface messages have not yet been translated at
  • I encourage you to contact people who are active on the Algerian Wikipedia test project (incubator:Wp/arq). They are actually trying to build a project that would address all of Maghrebi Arabic. While Language Committee will address each test project on its own merits, it would probably like to see a unified Maghrebi project instead of separate Moroccan and Algerian projects that are very similar.
If you have any other questions, please let me know. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:25, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

verified as eligible: "There is now sufficient content and activity to mark as eligible." ?[edit]

I saw that "There is now sufficient content and activity to mark as eligible." is now being used as the reason in Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Ainu 2 for why the proposal is not classified as "verified as eligible". Was there any rule changes that occur recently that made "sufficient amount of content/activity" being enough to mark a project as verified? And if so, what's the threshold needed? C933103 (talk) 20:09, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

No changes. Proposals get put "on hold" when they are ostensibly eligible but nobody has actually started creating content (or created a few pages at the time of the proposal, then disappeared). In that case, I saw that people had started to create content, so I marked as eligible. In the future, requests will be allowed to go on hold for no more than one year, then will either be marked eligible or stale. But a case like this is part of the transition as I try to clear out the backlog. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:18, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

request for approval for Wiktionary Cantonese[edit]

It is pretty active right now and the language is widely spoken.It also has more than 1700 pages right now.—Asdfugil (talk) 16:07, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

I'll have a look in the next few days. StevenJ81 (talk) 02:41, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
@Asdfugil: I need one more consecutive month of activity with three registered users making ten or more edits each (during September 2018). If I get that, I will put this project up for approval. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:43, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
@StevenJ81:Yes check.svg Done—There are not less than 3 contributors with more than ten edits this month.You can put this project up for approval. —Asdfugil (talk) 14:37, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
@Asdfugil: Thank you. Give me a day or two and I'll get it in front of them. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:45, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
@Asdfugil: Please see your talk page on Incubator and respond. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:37, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

2013 non-Wikipedia requests[edit]

I think verifying them can be easier than any ongoing verifications, and here are what I suggest:

--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:35, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I was planning to try to address 2017 requests next, but will get at these soon. StevenJ81 (talk) 10:48, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Notification about proposed approval of Cantonese Wiktionary[edit]

Cf. Notification about proposed approvals

Note: these discussions are for objections (based on policy) only. Please do not otherwise !vote.

The LangCom intends to approve Cantonese Wiktionary. If you have objections to that based on the language proposal policy, please say so on this page in the next seven days.

For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 14:04, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Under which domain? Can we please just use --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 22:35, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
That's the plan. StevenJ81 (talk) 04:42, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Consider approving Wikinews Limburgish?[edit]

Per [1], I can see at least 3 contributors contributed many contents in their test project, while there are some oppose users on the proposal, as a real legal fan, I'd say that those oppose reasons are mess-political, that claiming Limburgish is just dialect of Dutch, which isn't always true as per [2], to me I don't see any other reasons than this "kind of nonsense" to against approval of it. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:23, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

@Ooswesthoesbes: Your call as to whether this project is ready. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:30, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
Well, as it looks like it has kept its current activity level for half a year with nearly each day a new page, it might be ready. --OosWesThoesBes (talk) 09:12, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Fine. Per a discussion we had elsewhere, though. You're part of the current activity level. Will you stay involved? StevenJ81 (talk) 13:50, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
Yes, as long as the community remains active, I will make sure new contents is regularly added, the same way I do now. --OosWesThoesBes (talk) 08:53, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
OK. I will put this in for approval. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:38, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Requests for new languages/Wikinews Min Dong Chinese[edit]

I request an early-bird verification of this proposal, because FWIW they're going to run an edit-a-thon in their test project, but without eligiblity verified, their edit-a-thon may be illegal. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:25, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Illegal? What utter nonsense. --MF-W 13:45, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Who knows what's illegal in the PRC? I don't know. But it's eligible, in any case. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:31, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Notification about proposed approval of Limburgish Wikinews[edit]

Cf. Notification about proposed approvals

Note: these discussions are for objections (based on policy) only. Please do not otherwise !vote.

The LangCom intends to approve Limburgish Wikinews. If you have objections to that based on the language proposal policy, please say so on this page in the next seven days.

For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 15:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)