Requests for new languages/Wiktionary Sorani Kurdish

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wiktionary Sorani Kurdish
submitted verification final decision
Applications-system.svg This language has been verified as eligible.
The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval and notify the Board of Trustees for a possible veto.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Please contribute to the test project. For LangCom: StevenJ81 (talk) 17:27, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code ckb (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Sorani Kurdish Language name in English
Language name کوردی Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q36811 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Central Kurdish
  • native label (P1705) = کوردیی ناوەندی
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language / Kurdish
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = ckb
  • writing system (P282) = Arabic alphabet, Kurdish alphabets
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 3,700,000±50,000


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name ویکیفەرهەنگ "Wiktionary" in your language
Project namespace ویکیفەرهەنگ usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace لێدوانی_ویکیفەرهەنگ "Wiktionary talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads yes Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:Wiktionary-logo-ckb-bold.svg 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone IQ (+03:00) "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Bulleted list item Sorani and Kurmanci are the two major dialects of the Kurdish language. They are different in both grammar and vocabulary. People of these dialects may understand each other but they are not able to speak and write in the other. Unlike Kurmanci speakers who use the Latin script, speakers of the Sorani dialect prefer to use the Arabic script.

Language facts:[edit]
  • Number of speakers: more than 8 million.
  • Locations spoken: Iraq and Iran.
  • Related languages: Iranian Languages.

Discussion[edit]

  • Support Support --Diyar se (talk) 20:52, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Support --Muhammed taha (talk) 16:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Support I support this project. --Kurdbuddha 16:38, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose --Calak (talk) 10:49, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Support 217.218.42.228 14:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose Bodhdharma (talk) 06:45, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support --Serchia (talk) 15:40, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
  • Strong SupportLost Whispers (talk) 21:05, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
  • @StevenJ81: we have still not received a word about whether this project is eligible or not so far. What are we doing wrong?--◂ ‎épine talk 15:31, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
    @Épine: Here's the honest answer: I'm working through the backlog of old requests by the date of the request. I'm still finishing up 2011 requests. This request only goes back to 2012, so I haven't gotten to it yet. But it's not going to be a problem, and you're not doing anything wrong. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:57, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
    @Épine: That said ... if you ever want these projects to go anywhere, and to be approved (as opposed to merely eligible), you should be working on creating content in them. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:36, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: how many pages exactly? I thought of doing that after it was marked as eligible.--Épine (talk) 21:04, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
@Épine: You don't need to wait until the project is marked eligible before creating content; in fact, it's better if you start working on the project before it is marked as eligible. (If the concern is that the project would somehow not be eligible, don't worry in this case; that isn't going to happen. And, in fact, next time I do some updates, I'm going to go ahead and mark this eligible, so you can stop worrying.) How many pages? Start creating content, and look to Wiktionary for an idea as to how many pages open projects have. (Note: many of the tiny projects listed are actually closed, so don't go by those.) StevenJ81 (talk) 23:24, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
well noted, thank you.--Épine (talk) 00:10, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
@StevenJ81: hi! We created content (and keep on doing so) and held the project active for the past four days. Do you think it's time to create our site so we can keep on working there? Dealing with templates and discussions on Incubator is extremely frustrating. Our Wiktionary is growing really quickly, so I believe it's safe to let us have our own site now.--Épine (talk) 00:52, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
also, I want to point out that all the important translations for the project have been made already.--Épine (talk) 00:54, 20 April 2018 (UTC)