Research talk:Active editor spike 2015 (July update)/Work log/2015-07-09
Add topicThursday, July 9, 2015
[edit]Looks like I am picking this back up. My task is to update my analysis with the last few months of data. However, I think I can do a little better than that. I have some ideas.
Timeseries analsysis
[edit]First, let's look at some raw counts and extract some seasonal components. I'll focus on the same set of wikis that User:Dario (WMF) looked at earlier.
- Still growing
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- Wikidata
- Commons
- Growing again (maybe)
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- Spanish
- Flattening (maybe)
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- English
- Italian
- Russian
- Continuing decline
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- Dutch
- German
So, it doesn't look like there's a clear indication of substantial/sustained growth here. Although the recent trend in the Spanish Wikipedia looks promising. I could put English into the "Growing again (maybe)" group, but the recent months beneath the trend have me worried that we need more time to say.
Regardless, there are only two wikis here where my eyeballing would suggest continuing decline. Flattening and maybe growth is a good thing. Let's try to find out the source by breaking down the flow of editors towards active editor status.
- Thanks Aaron, super interesting (also the editor model insights below)!
- However, I not seeing an answer to the question whether the earlier spike in overall active numbers has been sustained. The above per-project observations are all very important of course. But the metric which WMF has been emphasizing for years in our strategic goals and public communications is total active editors across all projects per month. (It appears in the http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/ as "Active Wikimedia Editors for all Wikimedia Projects (5+ edits per month)" and forms part of the quarterly metrics scorecard.) Considering the enormous attention that its development has received by the community and the media over the years, we owe this audience an update in case the previous decline/stagnation narrative is no longer correct, even in case WMF is moving to using other metrics for our own work. Regards, Tbayer (WMF) (talk) 16:59, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Tbayer (WMF). I'm not sure what you are asking me for. It seems that I have made my conclusions clear. If you want to declare some sort of victory or change a narrative, then I'll leave that to you. IMO, I won't see reason for celebration until we can improve the retention of our new/old active editors. Until then, we're just sending more people into the funnel and I don't see a good reason to believe that this pattern is at all sustainable. I fear that, if you declared a recovery now, you'd find yourself mistaken once the short-term gains of forcing/encouraging new users register peter out. As I can't predict the future, I don't know what to tell you except what I have documented here. --Halfak (WMF) (talk) 15:48, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Editor model breakdown
[edit]One of the flaws of my earlier visualizations (e.g. File:Monthly_active_editors.aug_2013-feb_2015.overall.svg) is that it's hard to compare sub-segments with large numbers against sub-segments with small numbers (e.g. new active with surviving new active).
I think we can use z-score scaling to compare across metrics more effectively. If you have a vector of values x
, the rescaled z-score vector would be (x-mean(x))/sd(x)
. This means that values at the mean are equal to zero and deviations from zero are reported in standard deviations. This allows us to compare fluctuations in counts/rates that are at very different scales.
Before I can do that, I need to break down the wikis like I did last time.
big wikis (> 5000 active editors in June, 2015)
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> big_wikis [1] commonswiki dewiki enwiki eswiki frwiki |
medium wikis (> 1000 and <= 5000 active editors in June, 2015)
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> medium_wikis [1] arwiki fawiki hewiki itwiki jawiki kowiki nlwiki plwiki ptwiki ruwiki [11] trwiki zhwik |
small wikis (<= 1000 active editors in June, 2015)
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Counts of users
[edit]OK. Now I want to look at counts like I did last time first, but the rates in-between the counts will be coming next.
So, when we look at counts, we're looking at a flow from R:Newly registered users to active editors. I've ordered the cells of the plot so that they roughly reflect this order, but it's hard to say where 'reactivated' belongs. I just put it at the end.
Woah! Check out that spike in registrations that started in July 2014.
Rates of activation
[edit]Now, we also want to get a sense of the rate at which editors "activate" (cross the 5 edits threshold or continue to cross the threshold) because that will determine R:Newly registered users transition and sustain their active status.
... and I have to run away. Looks like I'm picking this up in the morning. --Halfak (WMF) (talk) 23:50, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I'm back! And working on the rates bit again.
So there you have it. It looks like, for all but wikidata, there's a drop in new editor activation rates that correspond to the large growth in registrations. The surviving new editor rate and old active rates hold pretty constant.
For Wikidata, it's interesting to see the rising rate of new editor activation correspond to a steady decay in the surviving new editor rate. This might mean trouble for Wikidata, but I suspect that it's a natural part of being a newish project. --Halfak (WMF) (talk) 18:59, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Or it means that it's getting more softcore editors, e.g. driven by edit links in the infoboxes of the Spanish and Russian Wikipedia. --Nemo 12:57, 23 August 2015 (UTC)