Talk:The Wikinewsie Group/Newsletter

Global message delivery[edit]

"Delivery to user talk pages and Water Coolers will be done manually because the Global message delivery does not work on all Wikinews projects."

This is an unfair representation. Global message delivery works on all Wikinews projects. One Wikinews project has locally blocked the bot. In the interest of reporting factually, I've clarified this sentence (and removed the unnecessary "the"). --MZMcBride (talk) 01:43, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For third parties who may be observing MZMcBride's behavior here: Although useful rephrasing, constructively proposed, would certainly be considered, unfortunately MZMcBride's history of trolling English Wikinews, seen continuing in his current edits here, is the reason the bot has remained blocked on English Wikinews. The English Wikinews community had, on its own initiative, begun proceedings to unblock the bot, and the bot's operator intervened to troll the proceedings; this raised concerns in the community about future behavior of the operator, and therefore the bot was not enabled. --Pi zero (talk) 04:15, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I switched from "some" to "one" for accuracy/clarity. The "the" is unambiguously wrong, I think, though if you feel differently, please discuss! --MZMcBride (talk) 06:03, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think the original capitalization of "Global message delivery" is more expressive, and frankly 'doesn't work on all Wikinews projects' is more functionally useful than 'doesn't work on one Wikinews project'. All that matters functionally is that one can't accomplish delivery to all Wikinews projects by means of EdwardsBot; additional information is gratuitous. On consideration, I think "some" is less sensible than "all" in this context; I've been racking my brains for an alternative phrasing that avoids even the faintest trace of implication about how many projects are involved, but that's a tall order (and one I admit I resent being drawn into wasting time on, since the original phrasing was more short-and-to-the-point, and at the same time less misleading, than any of the alternatives put forward so far... including, alas, the one I perpetrated). --Pi zero (talk) 10:28, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've crafted an alternative wording that avoids what seems to be to be the (well, marginally imaginable) potential causal inference from the phrase "does not work". --Pi zero (talk) 10:36, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Stalled or discontinued?[edit]

I wanted to add a short piece of news to the newsletter, but I see there has been no edition in 2014 yet. Is it just sleeping, or died? Thanks. --Okino (talk) 16:29, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hiatus while the Wikimedia Foundation board decision ramifications are better understood and steps are taken to deal with the group as a User Group instead. --LauraHale (talk) 16:42, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is, in fact, more doubt about the political situation than that suggests; see also Talk:The Wikinewsie Group#Reopening discussions. (Seriously; take a look at it.)

However, I don't honestly see why the newsletter, which is of broad interest to Wikinews participants of multiple languages, should be on hiatus just because the political status of TWG has been thrown up in the air by the WMF board. The problem, afaik, is a purely logistical one: Laura is the one of us most experienced with putting out the newsletter. Gryllida and I have talked about figuring out what details we need to get it going again, but it's awkward without instruction from Laura (who hasn't been around much since the WMF board snubbed us — whatever the WMF board did or didn't intend to do, they dealt a major blow to Wikinews morale, including Laura's, with their de facto insulting manner of rejection), and we haven't wanted to bother Laura about it. --Pi zero (talk) 19:07, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]