User talk:Ieneach fan 'e Esk

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Superprotect status[edit]

Dear Ieneach fan 'e Esk, since you are an administrator on a wiki from which no user participated in this discussion, I'd like to make sure you are aware of some recent events which may alter what the Wikimedia Foundation lets you do on your wiki: Superprotect.

Peteforsyth 09:21, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Re: Fywiki[edit]

Oh, I'm very sorry. :/ I didn't make the proposal to wikis which had already rejected it in the past, apparently I made a mistake. It will be fixed this week. However little harm done, because your configuration wasn't changed. I'll remember next time. --Nemo 06:00, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Fywiki[edit]

Hi, thanks for your message. Do the simplified instructions at mw:Parsing/Replacing_Tidy/FAQ#Simplified_instructions_for_fixing_pages help? That's the plainest we could do, while this still remain a technically complex kind of change. I haven't looked at your wiki closely, but some errors actually mean that once a few key templates are fixed, the errors vanish consequently. User:Whatamidoing (WMF) should be able to provide further assistance. Best, --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 15:30, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

@Elitre: Thank you. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 16:06, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Fywiki only has one significant problem. The wikitext table formatting in the "Kalinders" template is going to break. You can see the problem that will result by looking at https://fy.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2000_f.Kr.&action=parsermigration-edit&lintid=7751 The first column shows the infobox as it appears now; the second column shows the infobox as it will appear after this change is made on Thursday.
Fixing this template doesn't require an admin. It requires an editor who understands wikitext table formatting. As the message said, you can ask questions at mw:Talk:Parsing/Replacing_Tidy. You might also be able to get help from the German Wikipedia's technical volunteers. (Please ping me, so that I don't miss any replies.) Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:00, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): Thank you for the warning. I had already seen the problem with the "Kalinders" template, but the user who made that template is no longer active on our wiki, and no one else has the know-how to deal with this. I myself have a lot of trouble fixing "insignificant" problems with infoboxes. I am extremely frustrated at this point. This is not how I wanted to spend what looks like at least the entire coming week. And I have no idea whatsoever what we're going to do with the Kalinders-template. It's a disaster, because 'Kalinders' is probably the most used template on our Wiki. These kinds of unthinking moves imposed by the Wikimedia bureaucracy on small Wikipedias make me want to give up and stop with Wikipedia altogether... Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 18:17, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

But wait, I thought there were multiple tables nestled within the Kalinders template, but it looks like there's only the one right at the top. Isn't it possible to tuck the title line into the nestled table, like I have been doing with other infoboxes? Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 18:29, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
There are two tables (the bits that start with {|):
{| border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" align="right" style=" margin: 0 0 1em 2em; clear: right; font-size: 90%;" class="toccolours" width=280px;
|style="background:#efefef;" align="center" colspan="2"|[[Ofbyld:Calendar-nl.png]] '''Kalinders'''
|-
{| style="background: transparent; text-align: left; table-layout: auto; border-collapse: collapse; padding: 0; font-size: 100%;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"
|+ style="margin-left: inherit; font-size: 135%; padding-bottom: 0.5em; line-height: 1.1em;" | 
<!-- Gregoriaanske kalinder -->
I'm not sure how to fix this one. I copied it to w:fy:Meidogger:Whatamidoing (WMF)/Kalinders sandbox (and transcluded on the talk page, so this link will always let you see whether your latest change actually works). User:PiefPafPier was around last week, and User:Kening Aldgilles created the original version; maybe one of them understands tables better than I do. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:37, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
I've left messages on PiefPafPier's and Kening Aldgilles' talk page. Now it's a waiting game. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 19:45, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): To keep you in the loop: I seem to have fixed the problem with the Kalinders template. I stole a line of programming from the calendar template of the Dutch language Wikipedia, which looks quite similar to Kalinders, then pasted it in and shuffled some things around. To my surprise, this seems to have worked, although I can't explain how or why. Now the problem is reduced to 3 geographical infoboxes and our main page. The geographical infoboxes are not much used and can be replaced if necessary. The main page table (see here) is much more complex and cannot be replaced. Do you have any thoughts on this one? Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 20:05, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations on solving that one. Fywiki is in pretty good shape now.
I'm not quite sure about the Main Page, and it's fairly important to get that right on the first try. This, if you scroll down about halfway through the editing window, highlights the area that is causing the difficulty. I'd rather have User:SSastry (WMF) take a look at it, if he has a moment. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 01:52, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@Ieneach fan 'e Esk: @Whatamidoing (WMF): Take a look at this - something similar should work for the live template as well. I don't have edit rights to actually preview and test. SSastry (WMF) (talk) 03:11, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@SSastry (WMF): @Whatamidoing (WMF): Thank you, SSastry, for taking the time to help with this problem. Well, I pasted the vertical pipes or whatever they're called into the live template... Are you sure this is going to solve the problem? Somehow it seems to simple to me. If you want I can temporarily lift the protection on the live template so you can actually work with that. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 10:21, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@Ieneach fan 'e Esk:, Sure. I can do that. But, is it the Main Page of this wiki that I should verify rendering on? SSastry (WMF) (talk) 14:28, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@SSastry (WMF): I'm sorry, SSastry, I'm not sure if I understand what you mean. English is my third language. Is it the main page that you should do what on? Let me put it this way: we at Fywiki want our main page to function properly. If you can help make that happen, all the better. Especially since the user/administrator who usually fixes problems with our main page hasn't reacted to my call for help (it's vacation time, of course). If you try something and it doesn't work, you can always undo it, right? So, say the word, and I'll lift the protection. When the problem is solved or if you decide you can't solve it, tell me and I'll put the protection back in place. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 14:40, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@SSastry (WMF): Wait, of course I didn't mean the actual main page, but the live template for the middle segment of the main page that we've been talking about here. You understand that, right? Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 14:42, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@Ieneach fan 'e Esk:, Understood. Let me give it a try. SSastry (WMF) (talk) 14:45, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@SSastry (WMF): Okay, the protection is lifted on fy:Berjocht:Haadside-midden. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 14:53, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@Ieneach fan 'e Esk: You have already applied the fix to the template. Special:LintErrors/deletable-table-tag no longer has an entry for this template now. Do you still have any rendering problems on the Main Page? SSastry (WMF) (talk) 14:59, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@SSastry (WMF): Yes, I pasted in the 2 vertical pipe thingies, like you said. The main page looks like it should. That was all that was needed? Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 15:05, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@Ieneach fan 'e Esk: Yes. :) SSastry (WMF) (talk) 15:06, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@SSastry (WMF): Whoa, that's a relief! Thanks for your help, SSastry. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 15:08, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@Whatamidoing (WMF): And thank you, too, Whatamidoing. I don't know what we would have done without your help or SSastry's. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 17:32, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
You're welcome. I'm glad that it was so easy to fix all of those pages in the end. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:41, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Fy wiki[edit]

Om dezelfde reden: misschien wil je ze allemaal nog eens overlopen, ik pas niet graag iets aan waarvan ik niet overtuigd ben of het wel correct is. Maar een encyclopedie is nu eenmaal een encyclopedie, en fouten dienen gecorrigeerd. :) Lotje (talk) 14:03, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

@Lotje: Ik heb er even naar gekeken, maar ik zie zo gauw geen problemen. Evengoed bedankt voor de tip. Ieneach fan 'e Esk (talk) 14:08, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Graag gedaan. Lotje (talk) 14:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)