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Request for process change - add start and stop dates to WMF-moderated policy discussions[edit]

Thanks for moderating Terms of use/Creative Commons 4.0.

I needed the start and stop dates for this talk so I added them. May I request that the WMF change the discussion process to include an infobox or some metadata about the discussions themselves in the future? Data that I would want to see are the following:

  • Main landing page
  • start and stop dates
  • name a point person at the WMF who takes responsibility for the discussion

Maybe other data would be useful. For this CC discussion someone asked me about these things and I was unsure on these points. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:04, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Hey Bluerasberry - thanks for the suggestion. I think it's a great comment and will pass it on to the rest of the Support and Safety team ahead of the next big consultation, whenever that may be. (I also moved the note into the big orange box on the page since it seems to make most sense there, but thanks for adding that - definitely an oversight.) Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) 21:09, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Can show me how you moved the date to the box? I do not see the discussion date range posted. I see the end date.
I myself did not see how to post to that orange box. Thanks - I was checking the dates again, and did not see them. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:29, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
@Bluerasberry: Sure - removal and addition. It's in a template which in theory allows for it to be translated without duplication on the talkpage. Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) 18:27, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
My intent was for the text to appear at Terms of use/Creative Commons 4.0. I am not seeing it there, despite you changing the template. Is there something weird happening with the template? Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:07, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Ah, I see what you mean. That looks to have been a translate thing (specifically, I'd neglected to re-mark it for translation). This is now done, and should be visible. Thanks for the spot! Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) 23:22, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

New version of Donor Privacy Policy[edit]

Hi! Please explain, why new version of Donor policy was not placed in Meta-wiki for translation by Wikimedia community volunteers? This text may be placed in the Donor Privacy Policy, instead soft-redirect to wmf-wiki. I am ready to perform the translation markup and import current translations from wmf-wiki.--Kaganer (talk)

Hello Kaganer - I'll raise this with the Legal department and ask them to get back to you to explain the situation. :) Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) 00:36, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! In my opinion, should be one way for publishing all global policies: source in the wmf-wiki, translations in the Meta-wiki. See also this topic. Maybe User:Jalexander-WMF also connect to this discusion? --Kaganer (talk) 20:45, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
Hello again Kaganer - Legal thought about this and have decided to create a translatable copy on Meta-Wiki. It's now at Donor privacy policy. Thanks! Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) 09:13, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Good news! I've updated the translation markup to make this more comfortable for translators. Maybe also add "backlink" to translatable version, as in the wmf:Privacy policy? --Kaganer (talk) 12:56, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Small note about document design: "list-style-type: lower-alpha;" is not appropriate for non-latin scripting system (Cyrillic, Japan, Chineze etc.) Maybe you update your internal "writing style guide" for exclude these markup from potentially multilingual texts? --Kaganer (talk) 13:18, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


Hi Joe, I have talk to @Tulsi Bhagat: about the Phabricator ticket. He confirmed me about the 2FA incident. Please proceed to resolve the Phab task. Thanks--Biplab Anand (Talk) 07:37, 28 February 2017 (UTC)