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Training Dashboard - Tracking possible?[edit]

Hi Joe, I am interested in creating a training module and want to first thank you for the good description. Further it would be great to have more information on possible exitpoints the users experience. Is there a possibilty to track how many users did a particular training and when they exited the training? Thanks in advance for your help! Best, --Stefan Schneider (WMDE) (talk) 12:01, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

@Stefan Schneider (WMDE): Thanks for the kind words! Your question is a good one, and one that we're also investigating. If you "log in" to the dashboard (which I believe uses oauth credentials from Wikimedia), it will track which modules have been completed locally. That is, I don't think it will currently allow this progress to be broadcast further than the user's own browser. We're thinking about ways to make this better, possibly through manual means (barnstars, userbox certificates, etc.) or something more sophisticated (a tracking bot, automatic posting of progress, etc.) Hopefully that makes sense! I am also going to also flag this conversation to Sage (Wiki Ed), as he's the fantastic coder behind this system and might already be thinking about this ;). Joe Sutherland (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 23:56, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Stefan Schneider (WMDE), Joe Sutherland (Wikimedia Foundation): the dashboard keeps track of when each module was started, the furthest slide reached, and when it was finished, for any logged-in user. That progress ought to be added to the user profile pages (eg, https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/users/Ragesoss ) at some point, but for now, it's only shown in the context of a course/program where some trainings have been assigned, so it's not that useful for P&E Dashboard. Tracking completion for logged out users, just for the sake of counting unique people who have completed a given module, would also be worthwhile to add at some point.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:38, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Sage (Wiki Ed), Joe Sutherland (Wikimedia Foundation): Thanks four your prompt reply. So Start, progress and Training Module are tracked for every logged-in user. For https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/users/Ragesoss I can see only the duration, number of students and the role in different projects, but for example for my account there is no information tracked https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/users/Stefan%20Schneider%20(WMDE) but I completed the whole Wikipedia Training Modules. Do I or any logged-in user have to explicitly enable tracking to see the Start, progress of for example the Wikipedia Essentials?--Stefan Schneider (WMDE) (talk) 08:58, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
I don't think you have to enable it... Sage (Wiki Ed) will be better positioned than I to answer these kinds of questions, sorry. Joe Sutherland (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 22:08, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your support, Joe Sutherland (Wikimedia Foundation). I'll ask Sage.

Creating Training Modules[edit]

Hi Joe,

I am about to create a training module in German. I already created the JSON-files for the library and the modules. Also the slides are in place. I included my files in the lists here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_modules/dashboard

Now I tried to use this link to import my work into a module on the dashboard: https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/reload_trainings?module=wikipedia-basiswissen. But it does not find my module. What do I need to do to make my work visible and work as a real training on the dashboard?

Thanks in advance for you help! --Stefan Schneider (WMDE) (talk) 13:20, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Stefan Schneider (WMDE): The name and description fields on the module JSON page were missing. After this it worked.--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:59, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Sage (Wiki Ed): You're the best! It's so awesome to have it work now. It was a lot of work till here and it's such a joy that it works! So, just to be concrete: You added the two fields in the modules JSON and then used the link, that I already tried - right? I'm asking because I will add another two modues now.--Stefan Schneider (WMDE) (talk) 09:48, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Feedback on Training Modules[edit]

Hi Joe,

in the last slide of the Editing Basics Training you use the feedback button to get feedback on the training. Is this a general Feedback for the Programs & Event Dashboard or a specific feedback on the training that the users just completed? The link seems to be quite general. It would be interesting, if a feedback to the specific training is possible and where it is routed. Thanks again for you help!--Stefan Schneider (WMDE) (talk) 10:32, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Hey Stefan Schneider (WMDE) - it looks like this page is actually a creation of Theklan, who might be better positioned to answer - that having been said, it looks like it's a link to a pretty general page. A place where feedback can be given on each slide individually sounds like a good idea to me, but we at SuSa don't currently have the bandwidth to investigate that. Joe Sutherland (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 20:34, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Hello Stefan Schneider (WMDE) and JSutherland (WMF). Is not my creation, I only copied the slides from the Dashboard so we could translate them. The feedback button was there, with a link as pointed. -Theklan (talk) 09:23, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Joe Sutherland (Wikimedia Foundation) & Theklan for your prompt reply! I guess then I will just remove the general link to the feedback. At the moment we also do not have any resources to investigate more into that. So maybe I'll get back to you next year, if the trainings work for our campaign. --Stefan Schneider (WMDE) (talk) 09:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Email to Iberocoop members and thanks to team![edit]

Hi Joe. I've sent an email to my colleagues at Iberocoop about the Support and Safety module training. I send the link them because we organize a lot of editathons, workshops and other event, and we have "some ideas" about safety (in Wikimedia Chile we have approved a Friendly Space Policy due previous problem with a person in some editathon). Thanks for sharing us the link and translate the module into Spanish -please, don't forget share the congratulations with your team-. Regards Superzerocool (talk) 13:41, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Fantastic, ¡gracias! :) I will make sure my team hears about it. Joe Sutherland (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 22:47, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Re: Support and Safety training modules[edit]

Hi Joe, unfortunately I have been away from Arabic projects for years. I have only been active on the Strategic Planning wiki, Outreach wiki, and recently on Meta doing translations. I think you may contact User:Izoozo, User:Moushira, User:Rami.Awad, User:Merik egy, or User:Shipmaster, to name a few. Do not hesitate to contact me if you require any information. HaythamAbulela 14:23, 13 December 2017 (UTC)