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Latest comment: 2 years ago by Slevinski in topic Sign Language Lexemes

Hoi,
Welcome to the Meta project for the Wikimedia Foundation. I hope that your involvement with everything wiki will be as successful as it is already promising. Thanks, GerardM 07:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

DeafWikimedia Sicilian

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hi, I'm a Deaf Wikimedian sicilian.. I would like to create "ise.wikimedia.org".. but I do not know how to do?? ise is for Italian Sign Language (LIS).. --SurdusVII 09:07, 10 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Greetings SurdusVII. I am unfamiliar with using language code on "wikimedia.org" and do not know how to set that up. There is a test Wikipedia for Italian Sign Language at https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ise. Adding content requires a SignWriting editor. The ASL Wikipedia content was created with SignPuddle Online. There are several options for creating content such as SignPuddle Online and SignWriter Studio. I know that Yair Rand is working on another editor that is keyboarding based. I am currently finalizing the TrueType fonts and a low-level JavaScript Library. I will be using these two components to build a new and improved SignWriting editor. Using SignWriting is getting easier all of the time. I believe all of the pieces will finally come together next year and written sign language will explode online. Regards, -Slevinski (talk) 14:09, 10 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

The Community Wishlist Survey

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Hi,

You get this message because you’ve previously participated in the Community Wishlist Survey. I just wanted to let you know that this year’s survey is now open for proposals. You can suggest technical changes until 11 November: Community Wishlist Survey 2019.

You can vote from November 16 to November 30. To keep the number of messages at a reasonable level, I won’t send out a separate reminder to you about that. /Johan (WMF) 11:24, 30 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

bzs Wikipedia

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Hello @Slevinski:, how are you?

I found today that you released a project to create an Wiki in the Brazilian Sign Language. I'm Brazilian and I think that it is very interesting - I didn't even knew that "Libras" have an writing system! Sadly, I don't know this language, but I want to help this project. There's a way how? Is possible to translate articles from Portuguese into BSL? I'd like to bring articles about interesting subjects/characters from Brazil. Thanks, Erick Soares3 (talk) 00:19, 18 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Hi @Erick Soares3: SignWriting is used extensively in Brazil. At last count, there are 18 federal universities and 12 public schools in Brazil using SignWriting. In 2018, there were 3 multi-state conferences in Brazil focused on SignWriting. The Brazilian Sign Language Wikipedia started last year with a few articles. The user base continues to grow every year.
If you do not know Libras, it would be difficult for you to translate articles. If you are interested in helping move the projects forward, check out my entry on IdeaLab: The SignWriting Team and Written Sign Language Projects. I tried to outline the scope of the projects and include the relevant details. Regards, -Slevinski (talk) 14:25, 18 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! Erick Soares3 (talk) 22:58, 18 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

bzs Wikipedia

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Hi friend Slevinski. I am Brazilian, I am not deaf, I contribute to Wikipedia in Portuguese (see also my user page), and I was amazed by your proposal to create Wikipedias in sign languages. I know a bit of LIBRAS, and would be happy to contribute with Wiktionary and a little with Wikipedia. But when I visited the wiki test articles, I saw that there was a problem with the orientation of the signs here on my smartphone (probably not on computers). The problem is that the Wikipedia logo and the "menu" appear horizontally and the signs vertically (see screenshot.) It would not be possible to make the signs appear horizontally as in this Bible in SignWriting? Congratulations on the proposal, you will be helping a lot of people. And forgive me if my English is incorrect, I'm using Google Translator. EnaldoSS (talk) 14:06, 3 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your interest. The sign language wikipedias on incubator are tailored for desktop. The mobile experience is not really available yet. SignWriting is written vertically because this was requested by the deaf themselves. When reading SignWriting, it is really important to quickly determine the left vs the right side of a sign. When signs are written vertically, left and right are easily apparent and this improves reading speed. When written horizontally, each sign must be analyzed for left versus right sides and this slow down reading. Additionally, vertical writing can use an advanced writing technique called lanes which is used for obvious body weight shifts to the left or to the right. -Slevinski (talk) 15:25, 4 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

Sign Language Lexemes

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Hi Steve. I'm working with lexemes in Wikidata. Briefly, they are words of a given language (for example: ama/𒂼, laranja and cat). Some lexemes for sign languages (like this one) have been added. I saw some of the British Sign Language lexemes were being added and I started adding some of Libras as well. They are all being added as FSW codes, the same that are used in the test wikis of Incubator. However, in Wikidata they aren't being shown as proper signs like in Incubator. So, what makes possible to properly visualize the sign language texts in those test projects? And, would it be possible (or easy) to implement that to Wikidata? Or at least to the lexeme namespace in it? It would be great to read the signs like they appear in Incubator and not just their codes. Thank you in advance. Enaldodiscussão 00:17, 7 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi Enaldo. Thanks for the interest. The sign language wikipedias work using a special plugin that scans the page for words that match a regular expression. For every word that matches the FSW regular expression, it replaces the word with a call to the SignWriting Icon Server available on wmflabs.org. I'm not sure how this would translate to Wikidata. This is an older technique.
If you would like to use this technique on an individual basis, you can add the signwriting_viewer.js file to your personal common.js page.
We are currently using the Sutton SignWriting Web Components. In order to display a sign in FSW, you can wrap the word with a custom element tag, such as <fsw-sign>AS1ea51S15a37S20e00S26a07M529x524S15a37472x489S1ea51486x491S26a07508x476S20e00480x512</fsw-sign>. To enable the custom components, you need to add a script tag to the HTML page.
I do have a design for a two-dimensional font for SignWriting, but I haven't completed the work yet. I did apply for a grant from the Wikimedia Foundation, but I was declined. This would be the best technique, but it isn't available yet. -Slevinski (talk) 03:02, 7 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
@EnaldoSS: I often see your efforts show up in the Lexemes Challenge -- keep up the good work!
Steve: Thanks for the user script, if I can get it working it will be quite handy. Right now it seems to load the symbol version for me and then revert to the ASCII almost immediately (with d:user:Arlo Barnes/common.js). Arlo Barnes (talk) 03:29, 28 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Arlo Barnes: Thank you so much! I'm using this one, and it's working great for me. Enaldodiscussão 13:07, 19 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Nice. Thanks for the link. Slevinski (talk) 16:05, 19 June 2022 (UTC)Reply