User talk:Usenetpostsdotcom~metawiki

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Harrassment

Hello Usenetpostsdotcom. The Meta-Wiki is a project seperate from Wikipedia, and rules and Arbitration committee rulings do not necessarily apply from one project to the other. Jason Gastrich has no record of any misconduct on this wiki, and there is no reason to constantly point users to any trouble on another. Please stop harrassing this user by doing so. // [admin] Pathoschild (^talk/_map) 16:41, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Apparently someone else disagrees at this point. Usenetpostsdotcom 16:41, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

No. I completely agree that they don't apply here. Every project is separate. However if you take a look at User page here it seems to me to imply that anything which is a userpage rule on .en and on .fr applies in some form to meta (I'm a bit of stickler for policy and wouldn't have acted otherwise). JoshuaZ 04:43, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Davey, I'd like to send you an email but your Wikimedia email isn't enabled. JoshuaZ 15:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

I have replied on my talk page. - Amgine / ^{m | n} 18:07, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

It should be pointed out that Davey has defended Gatrich as great lengths for a while. He should be applauded for his objectivity in this. Arbusto 00:33, 21 September 2006 (UTC) In light of the recent findings of this poster's identity, I withdraw my praise. Arbusto 02:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC) How cut I am.

Are we sure this is really Davey?

It certainly is not. This person is masquerading as me. He has used an ID which refers directly to my website. He also has impersonated the opening phase of my wikipedia user page. It is not merely a coincidence that this person has decided on the name Uncle Davey - and there are at least three Uncle Daveys on the internet each of whom are bona fide independent users of the nick who do not get in each others' way - this is a case of fraud, and I would not be surprised if this is not stopped if I find myself put at some dishonest material disadvantage.Theox 17:14, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Please can the admins redress this identity theft and give me my ID back? It ought to be, that when someone registers in one part of wiki, they are automatically reserved with the same login and password on all the other parts.Theox 17:14, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I suspected as much from the beginning. Always a follower...never a leader. But it is interesting to see Davey claim that what applies on one part of the wiki should apply to all. It doesn't take much, then to extend that sort of thinking to behaviors and consequences of behaviors--not just logins. If Davey is to be consistent, he should be in support of Gastrich's ban from the metawiki. Naturally, having been banned from "one part of wiki," he should be banned "on all the other parts." 72.207.57.81 18:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

This assumes that I was in favour of his being banned from wikipedia. I wasn't, and therefore I am quite consistently in favour of his not being banned in any of the wiki parts. We cannot all be leaders, by the way. Theox 18:24, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

As usual, Davey ducks the point and gets it wrong, and I'm not sure how I could have explained it more simply. If Davey feels that logins on one part of Wiki should apply to all, why not other mechanisms, policies, and decisions? There was no assumption that Davey favored Gastrich's expulsion--not that it matters--his claims about what were assumed were wrong and likely the result of reading too quickly or superificially, which is a significant flaw that he demonstrates often. That Davey was quick to compromise whatever integrity and principle that might remain within him to support Gastrich's clear transgressions of both Wikipedia rules and Christian behavior is a matter of record and is well known outside of this community. But with respect to what occurs in the Wikimedia Universe, if Davey is to try to argue that one part of Wiki participation be codified and enforced across Wiki projects, he must also be accepting of policies and decisions with which he might not agree also being applied across the board. In other words, "if it's the rule there, it should be the rule, here." He may not favor the result, but he should be in support of the process. That would be consistent.

I am being consistent, actually. If I thought he should have been banned from wikipedia in the first place, which I didn't, then probably that worldview would lead me to believe that he should also be banned here, which I don't. Therefore it is perfectly consistent. I myself do not break Wikipedia rules, not wittingly anyway. I only have a second ID here because my main one got stolen. I don't know why you are writing anonymously when you've already made it clear who you are, by the way, but that's another issue. Theox 20:17, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Asked and answered on all counts. With respect to the issue here, I can't dumb it down any further. This won't be the first time that Davey actually avoids the point and uses misdirection. Then again, you know, it could very well be that he really just doesn't get it. It wouldn't be the first time...

On the matter of the username, in my view: Normally, the use of a username is a matter of primacy--the first to take the name within a given domain gets to keep it. There can be exceptions made by administrators and, in this case, I'd probably rule in Davey's favor, were I to have that authority, and turn over "usenetposts.com" to him. There is an issue of "good faith" involved, and principle would demand that whoever is using "usenetposts.com" did not grab that username in good faith, just as Gastrich did not buy the domains "talkorigin.org," "theinfidelguy.com," and "michaelnewdow.com" in good faith. Some of us at least try to be consistent. 72.207.57.81 18:56, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, thank you for that. We will see if there is any reaction from administrators to my request. Theox 20:17, 22 September 2006 (UTC) Suffice it to say I have heard nothing, so I beginning to think they do not care about the abuse.

Impersonation

Are you the real Uncle Davey from Usenet? If not, then it's a very bad idea to impersonate him and his legacy. He has spent a long time gaining his reputation of integrity. If you aren't him, which I'm quite sure you're not, then you should stop using his name and start using your own name. --216.217.248.84 20:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm me IP. Whatever IP. Stop vandalizing my talk page. Uncle Davey 03:29, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

It's actually quite amusing to watch Gastrich, he of the (probably) record number of wikipedia sockpuppets, as well as many other false Internet IDs, posting from behind an anonymous IP address and telling someone *else* that he or she should "start using your own name." 72.207.57.81 18:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm Me

So stop asking. Uncle Davey 03:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Nonsense. I am you, that is, me. Stop impersonating me and trying to stir up trouble. If you have nothing positive to add to wiki projects, then just go do something else. Theox 17:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

No, you're Theox. Uncle Davey 22:01, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

That's as maybe, but only because you nicked my default identity. You don't even write like me. Come on, speak some Polish or German or something Theox 22:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Davey should derive comfort in knowing that some of us were never fooled. The real "Uncle Davey" is too much of a Gastrich suck-up to ever challenge anything that he (Gastrich) does, no matter how dishonest, how vile, how underhanded, or how deceptive.

For some reason, this whole thing reminds me of this Schwarzenegger spoof. 72.207.57.81 19:03, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

You think it's funny? Why is this funny and maleboge.com not funny? Theox 22:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Davey will never get it...I think "maleboge.com" is hysterical. Every time "Fraud Buster" shows up, there are new lies and new examples of hypocrisy and unChristian behavior that we can lay right at Gastrich's door. But, of course, what Davey fails to understand is humorous about this situation and why it reminded me of that video is the "I'm me," "I am you, that is, me."

That may be so, but this time they cloned the wrong guy. Theox 12:36, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I have confirmed through email that Theox is the real Davey and Usenetpostdotcom is not. JoshuaZ 03:23, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I think that there were some who knew it all along.

Yes indeed. Especially the one resopnsible for it. Theox 12:36, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed

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04:13, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

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