User talk:Kylu

Hi

I replied to your message on my SUL Request. Fridae'sDoom 04:06, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Replied again, maybe you could change the password for me? Fridae'sDoom 04:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Um, you really don't need to leave a note each time you edit the sul request page. I see the edit the moment it happens anyway. Kylu 04:36, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Ho Ho

Nice. :) –SJ · talk | translate 00:03, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

It's silly to think that just because we take a job that grants additional buttons and responsibilities that we're somehow no longer able to voice our opinions and act in the other capabilities that we have. I volunteered for a technical position, not a political or leadership position, no matter how much people attempt to push such responsibilities on us. Anyone who disagrees and thinks that I may only act as a steward (instead of my positions as editor and, here, admin and bureaucrat) is free to voice that opinion on my "reasons to hate Kylu" section and during my confirmation. *shrug* Kylu 01:13, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

A minor comment.

Dear Kylu, I would like to comment your discussion with SergeyJ.

The key issue is expressed in the following your text:

Certainly you can leave a message, but you left him a warning about his conduct on Wikipedia, a completely different project. Administer your project based on the edits performed on that project, please. This said, wouldn't you agree that the warnings based on Wikipedia actions are inappropriate and then should be removed? Kylu 12:33, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

There are some administrators in Russia Wikipedia who make warnings and blocks in Russian Wikipedia for actions taken outside the Wikipedia. At some point, it's an extension of English Wikipedia policy on off-wiki harassment prevention.

The discussed SergeyJ's actions is a "return fire" of some kind. I don't think he's correct, but it's the rationale behind his actions... Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 18:09, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I see a significant difference between harassing users outside of the project and giving them warnings for things that are in the scope of their job inside the project. Unfortunately, I think my main error anymore is mis-stating what I'm trying to say. I'm working on that problem, actually.

Yes, I just tried to explain the idea behind what SegeyJ writes and does - just for you to know. I think, more information is better... Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 20:18, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

On an aside, if you (or Alex or Sergey or anyone else) would like to leave a comment on how I'm doing as a steward, I set up a subpage for people to leave such comments. I have a suspicion that it'll attract more negative commentary than positive, but that's how things like that work regularly anyway: You don't compliment the waiter who brings you the correct order, you yell at the one who doesn't. :) Kylu 19:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I've already seen this page. However, I don't think it will attract many negative comments. I've seen many pages like that, and there's no too many negative comments there. Ok, I will write a negative comment for you :-). Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 20:18, 24 August 2010 (UTC) (Sorry if my negative comment is not serious, I could remove if it makes a harm to the page. Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 20:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC))

Other than it not being my preference in pronoun, it's kind of silly, but I'm certainly not going to ask you to remove it... I suspect that asking you do to so is not really the best thing to do when I'm trying to show some sort of respect for accountability and transparency, y'know? I figure I've annoyed folks at ace.wikipedia, ru.wikiversity, and plenty of others this year, so this gives them an opportunity to store diffs and legitimate gripes for the steward confirmation. It's a fairly easy-to-find page, but I suppose there's something to be said against storing the data there, since it's in my userspace and could, then, technically start deleting things if I didn't like them. Hm. Sounds like an essay on the idea should go where I have the redirect (on the userpage opposite) now, what'cha think? Kylu 22:11, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

I removed the comments, as you have read them and got the message :-), so they are of no use anymore.

I don't think that the people you mentioned would go to this page and to report. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've never seen it worked that way - I don't know exactly why... Sorry for silly advice, but from my personal perception, if you wish people to consider the page seriously, it should be a bit less emotional (w/o hate'n'love), I think.

And I think, any redirect won't help. As far as I note, requests on the personal pages don't work in conflicts - in law and war people do whatever they want, ignoring the requests...

By the way, in Soviet Russia your user page edits you one can't delete others' texts, but only to archive them in a manner that they are accessible by few mouse clicks; and the archives can't be deleted. Dr Bug (Vladimir V. Medeyko) 02:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Oho, the Russian guy sneaks in a Yakov Smirnoff joke! So, how would you go about fixing this speedy-delete-politics situation? I don't want to sound like I'm rushin' things, so take your time! :D Kylu 02:52, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

• Just to make it clear, contrary to what DrBug seems to imply, there are only three ways to get a warning or get blocked on Russian Wikipedia with zero edit count: (i) inappropriate user name; (ii) cross-wiki vandalism; (iii) sockpuppetry. Whatever whoever thinks about the policies, it is impossible to get banned for off-wiki harrassment for somebody who never edited in Russian Wikipedia.--Yaroslav Blanter 14:30, 25 August 2010 (UTC)