Abstract Wikipedia/Historic proposal/hr
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Naziv "Apstraktna Wikipedija" je privremeni, vidid podnaslov o alternativnim prijedlozima imena ovog projekta.
Ovaj se prijedlog sastoji od dva dijela: Apstraktna Wikipedija i Wikilambda.
Cilj Apstraktne Wikipedije je omogućiti da više ljudi dijeli više znanja na više jezika. Apstraktna Wikipedija je nastavak/dodatak Wikipediji. U Apstraktnoj Wikipediji ljudi mogu stvarati i održavati članke Wikipedije na način neovisan o jeziku koji koriste. Wikipedija na pojedinom jeziku može prevesti ovaj članak koji je neovisan o jeziku na svoj jezik. Kod odrađuje prevođenje.
Wikilambda je novi projekt Wikimedija koji omogućava stvaranje i održavanje koda. To je korisno na mnogo različitih načina. Nudi katalog svih vrsta funkcija koje svako može pozvati, pisati, održavati i koristiti. Također pruža kôd koji prevodi članak neovisan o jeziku sa Apstraktne Wikipedije na jezik pojedine Wikipedije. To omogućuje svima da pročitaju članak na svom jeziku. Wikilambda će koristiti znanje o riječima i entitetima iz Wikidata.
To će nas približiti svijetu u kojem svi mogu dijeliti u zbroj svog znanja.
|Abstract Wikipedia and Wikilambda (working titles, to be decided by the community)|
|Status of the proposal|
|Details of the proposal|
|Project description||Many Wikipedia language editions have large gaps in knowledge. We want to close these gaps by allowing to create and maintain content in one place and allow the Wikipedias to use this content if they choose so. This will allow more people to create, maintain, and read more knowledge in more languages. In order to do this, we need to represent the content in a way that can be translated to many different natural languages. We do this by introducing a new project, Wikilambda, that allows editors to create, maintain, catalogue and evaluate functions as a new form of knowledge the communities work on. This will allow completely new use cases, and allow more people to share in more forms of knowledge.|
|Is it a multilingual wiki?||one multilingual wiki|
|Potential number of languages||multilingual, in the same way as Wikidata|
|Proposed tagline||Multilingual content for Wikipedia and a wiki for functions|
|Proposed URL||depends on the name the community chooses|
|New features to require||see technical plan|
|Development wiki||see technical plan|
|see talk page|
Background / supporting material / existing discussion
An article in the Signpost provides a more detailed introduction to the idea. The material below - research papers, videos of talks, prototype software - offers a lot of detail. A detailed draft plan for the development of Wikilambda is also available.
Wikimedia community discussions
- Discussion on Meta
- Signpost article on English Wikipedia - with discussion
- Kurier article on German Wikipedia - with a (mostly preceding!) discussion
- Discussion on wikimedia-l about the paper proposing Wikilambda and Abstract Wikipedia
- Discussion on wikidata mailing list
- Blog post on Wikimedia Space
- 2013 proposal on Meta and discussion
- Capturing meaning: Toward an abstract Wikipedia (short intro)
- CCC Blue Sky award for the paper (it won both the Jury and Audience awards)
- Architecture for a multilingual Wikipedia (technical aspects)
- Collaborating on the sum of all knowledge across languages (social aspects)
Videos and podcasts
Note that the two long videos are rather redundant to each other, and the short video is a short version of the long one.
- Short intro to Wikidata and Abstract Wikipedia idea (New York, 2019) (18 min)
- Keynote at SWAT4HCLS (Edinburgh, 2019) (56 min)
- Keynote at EMWCon (Daly City, 2019) (1:02h)
- "Between the Brackets" interview with Amir Aharoni, discussing Wikilambda and other topics, many related (1:41h)
- Interview on Wikilambda between Shani Evenstein Sigalov and Denny Vrandečić (1:10h)
- Summary: overview of the project plan
- Name: discussion on the name of the project
- Goals: what are we trying to achieve? Primary and secondary goals
- Organization: how the development team would be set up
- Requirements: overall conditions that the project needs to fulfill
- Architecture: an overview of how the project components would work together
- Components: individual software components the project needs to deliver
- Tasks: individual tasks that need to be done by the projects
Denny Vrandečić je osnivač Wikidata projekta, suosnivača Semantic MediaWiki-ja, prvi administrator i birokrat Hrvatske Wikipedije, član Upravno vijeće Fondacije Wikimedia 2015.-2016. koji je izabran od zajednice. Denny se u srpnju 2020 pridružuje Wikimedija Fundaciji kako bi radio u punom opsegu radnog vremena na prijedlogu.
Wikilambda is just a project name. One of the first tasks of the projects will be to come up with the communities with a name for the project and that is available as a domain name. Some options include Wikifunction, Wikicode, Wikialgorithm, and other proposed alternative names of this project.
Related projects / proposals
The following existing projects would be most affected by Wikilambda, but all Wikimedia projects will be able to call functions in Wikilambda.
- Wikidata - suggested to store abstract content in Wikidata next to the item pages
- Wikipedia - suggested to allow display of content from Wikidata for missing articles
There are numerous proposals that cover aspects of Wikilambda and that have been made over the years (going back to 2001). The large number of related proposals is another indicator of the wish to get this done. In this proposal we aim to extract the common goals and learn from the other proposals:
Proposals for repositories of modules, templates, and other code
- Global templates - a proposal with some overlapping goals
- Wikitemplates - similar to the global templates proposal above
- Template repository - similar to the global templates proposal above
- Global-Wiki - the parts regarding global templates and modules
- WikiApps - provide access to functions and algorithms
- WikiAI - a repository for ML models
Proposals for linguistic projects
- Wikilanguage - linguist knowledge needs to be recorded in Wikilambda beyond Wiktionary
- Girgit - may be developed in Wikilambda
- Wikilinguistica - information about syntax and grammar etc.
- Wikidioma - information about agreement and declinations etc.
- Wikipedia Virtual Mind - could be implemented with Wikilambda
Proposals for structured data access projects
- WikiSandy - index Wikipedia content semantically
- Konsciajxo - seems almost the same idea, but goes well beyond that
- WikiCode - pretty much the same idea
- Wikibot - give access to content in Wikipedia
Proposals for collections of knowledge about math and other sciences
- WikiDerivations - capture scientific models and their relations
- Wikimath - a wiki that can do math
- DRMF - capture mathematical formulas
- Wikimedia Pi Abacus - calculation
- WikiProves - capture theorems, lemmas, and relate them to each other
- WikiTeched - providing an IDE for developing etc.
- EncycloPDia - computational knowledge engine
- WikiCalculator - implementable in Wikilambda
Depends on the name.
Support and discussion
We don't really have an effective process for starting new projects, so I am trying to follow a similar path that we took for Wikidata back then. And back then it all started with Markus Krötzsch, me and others talking about the idea to anyone who would listen until everyone was bored of hearing it, trying out prototypes, and then talking about it even more, and improving all of it constantly based on your feedback. And then making increasingly concrete proposals until we managed to show some kind of consensus from the communities, you, and the Foundation to actually do it. And then, well, do it.
The goal is to show interest in making this goal a reality, and then go to the Board of Trustees and ask them to commit to this project (in rough strokes - the details of the proposal will be further adjusted with you). But in order for the Board to confidently agree, we need to show support for the project.
If you support the goals of this proposal, please express your support on the talk page.
Also discussions and reservations regarding the goal of the proposal or the project plan should be raised there.
Just as with Wikipedia and Wikidata and our other projects, this is a crazy idea at first. Maybe even more crazy than our other projects. And the only way there is a chance of us being successful is, if, eventually, thousands of us work together on it. The only way this worked in the past is by being open, start out collaboratively, discuss the path forward, and work towards creating the project together.