Adminwiki

This is a proposal for a new Wikimedia sister project.

Adminwiki
Status of the proposal
Status	rejected
Reason	strong unanimous opposition
Details of the proposal
Project description	Private wiki for sensitive janitorial information about all WMF wikis
Is it a multilingual wiki?	Yes
Potential number of languages	1
Proposed URL	admin.wikimedia.org
Technical requirements
New features to require	No
Development wiki	no
Additional project settings	$wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; $wgNamespaceContentModels[LTA] = CONTENT_MODEL_JSON; ?

I am proposing a private wiki, where only administrators, stewards and WMF staffers can view and edit the wiki. All LTA (Long term abuse) records shall move here and should not be re-created on the wikis. Other content that should be private to only admins is also permissible. This wiki also needs to be accessible to "IP masking" in their LTA UI. Whether "IP masking" LTA access is open outside of admins or any other group is outside of the scope of this proposal. Apparently the only way to have wikipages secure from the public is to have an separate wiki (see mw:Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_viewing_of_certain_specific_pages), so here we are.

I checked the other private wikis, and none of them where fit for purpose.

Rules:

1. Administrators need to sign up to gain access
2. Stewards handle removals. When a Steward request is made to remove rights, rights to this wiki are removed alongside it.
3. Wikis who handle their own removals have to report them to an steward for removal of rights to this wiki.
4. Stewards are allowed to use sanctions on admins of an wiki that do not report removed admins.
5. Admins should not be encouraged to do actions on the wiki they are an admin on against their local wiki policy.
6. Any content that has any rights of being public is not allowed on the wiki.

User:Gifnk dlm 2020, User:Thingofme, User:Yaratmayıcı, User:Bluerasberry, User:Zzuuzz, User:Novak Watchmen, User:Music Animal, User:MarcoAurelio, User:Operator873, User:Pavlov2, User:Martin Urbanec, User:Ameisenigel, User:Victor Trevor, User:ArticCynda: Pinged since you participated in an similar discussion.--Snævar (talk) 15:40, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Proposed by

• Snævar

Alternative names

• Janitor wiki

Related projects/proposals

• Requests for comment/LTA database at meta
• phab:project/profile/2434/

Domain names

• admin.wikimedia.org
• janitor.wikimedia.org (alternative)

People interested

• Snævar (talk) 15:37, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Support/oppose

•  Oppose why? Why is this necessary? How does this improve trust and integration between three notoriously strained sub-groups on Wikimedia (admins/stewards, WMF, and regular users)? It just sounds like a recipe for w:smoke-filled rooms and paranoia. Dronebogus (talk) 14:59, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose Unneeded cabal wiki, CheckUser & steward wikis already exist and should be sufficient. ~~~~
  User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:01, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose Unneccessary, per above. --V0lkanic (talk) 22:05, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose Strongly opposed. There are enough trust problems within the WMF projects without creating a place for WMF employees and the volunteer administrative bureaucracy to have secret conversations. I see zero support for this and will take the liberty of rejecting it if some serious momentum does not build behind it in the coming weeks. Pecopteris (talk) 02:54, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose No apparent need. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 05:16, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose A private wiki is in direct conflict with the openness that a collaborative project requires. As someone who spent most of the last 5 years fighting vandalism, at the expense of new content generation, I am very much aware of the problematic nature of LTAs. However, I don't think this is the way forward to combat the problem. ArticCynda (talk) 19:01, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose 他们是无意义的。