Community Wishlist Survey 2017/Archive/Create a widget for external website consultation of video

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Create a widget for external website consultation of video

  • Problem: The Web is full of video widgets that allow to consult in place a video which is stored on a different server domain. Most of them use a video on demand service provider among the most populars. People don't have the reflex to upload to Commons, even if the video have clearly pedagogical values and that they are fine with sharing it under a free license. Although many other factor are admittedly entering in this result, not being able to easily integrate a Commons widget in their own website might be a criteria for rejecting Commons as a video hosting service. That is sad, as we directly lose many occasion of gathering more video content. But even more detrimental is the fact that we lose many occasion of making people aware that they can share their pedagogical videos on Commons. Indeed, an easy to use external widget is not just an attractive feature for this users, it's also a way to attract a lot of audience, and consequently many new potential contributors.
  • Who would benefit:
    • Everybody on the web looking for a video on demand service provider that comes with such a feature for their pedagogical videos.
    • The Commons project and community, as it could gain a lot of visibility and new contributors.
  • Proposed solution:
    • implement a widget of external consultation, which of course include a link to the Commons relative page and maybe a "About Wikimedia Commons" link. Possibly push the Commons logo at some place/point to strengthen the promotional value of the widget.
    • make this widget extremely easy to use through copy/paste of code snippet accessible everywhere the video appears so users can disseminate Commons video wherever they want on the web.


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Discussion[edit]

  • We actually do have this, but we don't promote it much, because its rather unstable. But if on commons, you go to "Use this file", and copy paste the HTML code:
<iframe src="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3APetrSU_English_2017.ogv?embedplayer=yes" width="1024" height="576" frameborder="0" ></iframe>

Then this can be embedded into another page. The Wikimedia blog uses it. But as stated, its a bit flaky and additionally, we are terrible at Commons at encouraging usage of our material to begin with. We seem to focus on collecting rather than reusing. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 10:52, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Great news, thank you. Then I think this proposal should be turned into improve this feature to fix its unstability. For the problem of promoting reuse, it's not a technical problem. But Community Liaisons might consider the problem. @Trizek (WMF):, @Qgil-WMF:, et alia, may we discuss the topic somewhere? --Psychoslave (talk) 11:28, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • <hobby horse>It would be great to see support for something like oembed (T27854) and/or opengraph for Wikimedia urls. When I copy and paste a URL into a non-Wikimedia site or social media I'd love to see an automagical expanded player ala every other media provider on the 2017 Internet. ಠ_ಠ </hobby horse> CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 22:56, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • I don't know any details, but I expect the Structured Data on Commons program to make Commons content not only easier to find, also easier to promote. @SandraF (WMF):. Qgil-WMF (talk)
    • As mentioned above, one of the (many) goals of Structured Data on Commons is to improve our reuse scenarios. Once we have structured data in place, we'll start building out tools that take advantage of it. Reuse/embed work is currently scheduled for 2019, and our plans include ways to improve both the tech side and address the problem of promoting Commons and its content. For example, one approach may be to have a Wordpress widget for this in addition to our own tool (which, as TheDJ mentions, exists now but could use some improvement). RIsler (WMF) (talk) 18:59, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
We're archiving this proposal for the reasons above. Thanks for participating in the survey. -- DannyH (WMF) (talk) 01:22, 21 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]