Grants talk:PEG/Stephen Wanjau - Wikimedians in Kenya/Start-up

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Thanks for the submission. I suppose this grant application is not ready, as the sums do not figure within the text. Best regards.--Kiril Simeonovski 22:30, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[]

Huh! They were there, a few revisions ago. I guess WMKE is still working on it, despite their e-mail to me asking to have it considered. Their mailing list suggests they'll be discussing it this weekend. Let's wait for next week, then. Ijon 22:42, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[]
Yes, there were some members who wanted us to factor in some changes to the budget and as Ijon put it we had a meet-up on skype in the weekend and I have now put in the desired changes.Sorry Kiril Simeonovski in case of any inconvinience caused. Stephenwanjau 03:50, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[]

Camera[edit]

We were also looking into a possibility of the foundation purchasing us a camera. Please advice. Stephenwanjau 04:18, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[]

We'd be happy to consider funding a camera, if you have a concrete plan for using it to benefit our mission. If you do, describe the plan in the grant and add it to the budget. Ijon 19:25, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[]
As we were doing our Wikipedia for schools projects, we came across very notable features that require to be uploaded on Wikicommons as a way of maximizing the outcome of our projects. We tried our best to use our mobile phone cameras but they are not as good. Some feature that we visited which I think should be having an up to date photo on commons were or from views from various elevations:

Previous reports?[edit]

I was looking for a report on Grants:WM KE/Wikipedia for Schools Project, but there doesn't seem to be one despite the project being well past its scheduled end date. Was it funded as the page says, or were there some difficulties? I'm asking because IMO it's generally good practice to ensure that past reports are filed before taking on new grants.--Eloquence 07:42, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[]

I am compiling this report and I will submit it ASAP. I take full responsibility for the delay -- my apologies. Abbasjnr 11:50, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[]

Questions about cost allocation[edit]

For me seems like the amount requested could even be lower if you ask for a part of the merchandise of the Wikimedia Foundation? So, what is the experience you previously had with the Foundation to procure T-shirts and other promotion material, and is it possible to reduce the sum of $1,302 with something like this? I also lack details about the other costs listed with sum that is more than 20% of the total amount requested? Best regards.--Kiril Simeonovski 18:54, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[]

I have highlihted reasons why we would like to produce some of the merchandise here localy on the grant proposal. --Stephenwanjau 09:15, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[]
Thanks. Now it seems more comprehensive in the table. Since you mention that the other costs are for consulting services and you don't know what is the actual cost for it, I'd suggest to use the similar use of the service as a criterion to get the estimate. Best.--Kiril Simeonovski 16:47, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[]
I haven't understood what you mean by "...I'd suggest to use the similar use of the service as a criterion to get the estimate..." --Stephenwanjau 09:46, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[]
I meant, if you don't know how exact will cost the consulting service, probably you should try to find out what is the average cost for that service and to use it as an estimate.--Kiril Simeonovski 10:31, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[]
Got it and I am on it --Stephenwanjau 10:49, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[]
From what I have learnt by inquiring from a few proffesionals and by relating to the amount that we were charged by the lawyer (who is a friendly)- BTW, the lawyer is the one who shall facilitate our registration. In fact I was informed that accountants would charge more.--Stephenwanjau 06:37, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[]
It sounds to be a relevant information, so when you're up having a rough sum for this cost just change within the budget. Best.--Kiril Simeonovski 15:39, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[]
Yeah, we will adhere to that--Stephenwanjau 12:09, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[]

Domain Renewal[edit]

Since Wikimedia.or.ke is not managed by the foundation as it was discussed at our mailing list and decided that we include the sum required to have the website hosted locally. The expiry date for the domain is 4th January 2012 and thus is due for renewal.--Stephenwanjau 14:24, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[]

Most important items?[edit]

Hi Stephenwanjau. Your requests have a very different importance, I think. I don’t know your local life and institutions, so I cannot compare them. Which items are most important for you? Could you divide them, for instance into the “first USD 3000 items” and other items (here on the discussion page, of course)? Thanks. --Pavel Hrdlička 23:49, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[]

I am not very certain that I got your question right!!

However, the items in the table are arranged in no particular order of preference. But for the first $3000 we would use that for:

  • Registration and legal fees - $833
  • Bank Account Opening - $31
  • Hosting our Domain - $450
  • Pocket Wi-Fi router - $167
  • Internet on our meet-ups - $ 625 (A portion of this shall be used to have Wi-Fi available *as We will hold a meet up after we get registered to discuss on the way forward)
  • T-shirts, banners, and Stationery - $1302 (A part of these funds shall go into making/printing some merchandise, preferably WMKE customized after we get registered)

--Stephenwanjau 04:26, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[]

No, this is exactly what I told. I don’t intimate that you should get only $3000; I only wanted to know which items are most important for you. For instance, for me with European experience is $1302 for t-shirts, banners, and stationery extremely high outcome. But after you discussion with Kiril I understand your needs. So good luck! --Pavel Hrdlička 23:11, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[]
I still don't, actually. $1302 seems like the result of some calculation (e.g. per-unit price multiplied by estimated unit count, plus perhaps one-time fees such as cost for a contractor designer?) -- where can we see that calculation? Ijon 01:28, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[]
Here is the Google Doc on which we estimated some of our estimations.--Stephenwanjau 16:54, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[]
What I'm seeing in that doc is just 250 T-shirts. Is that what you meant? Ijon 21:23, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[]

Travel/Logistics item[edit]

I recommend increasing the travel/logistics budget item to $1000, to allow more activity without requiring separate grants. Ijon 19:50, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[]

We were a bit worried to put a huge amount as it would seem extravagant, but since Asaf was here and had the first hand experience of transport around we discussed and agreed it is ok to put it at $ 1,000 for the whole year. --Stephenwanjau 16:51, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[]

Currency[edit]

Since the Kenyan shilling fluctuates so much, perhaps it makes more sense to budget this request in Kenyan Shillings -- that way, you know what things cost, and we just disburse Kenyan shillings (if we can), or the equivalent US dollar amount, at time of disbursement. Ijon 21:02, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[]

I am waiting on this update (travel to ~$1000, and converting everything to accurate Kenyan shillings amounts, to protect against currency fluctuation) to move forward with this. Ijon 17:25, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[]

Report past due[edit]

This report is due within 3 months of the projected completion date, or in March 2013. Please submit it now, and Email grants at wikimedia dot org with any questions. Sincerely, Winifred Olliff (Grants Administrator) talk 20:07, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[]