Grants talk:PEG/User:MMelvaer/Just for the record

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Hi @Lfurter:, thanks for posting this Idea! I think it's got heaps of potential and I wanted to check in and see if you are interested in developing it further (and if funding is needed, in turning this into a grant proposal -- the Inspire campaign is offering $250,000 in grants funding to gendergap-related projects). There's a couple of days left before the deadline on March 31, if you want to add more detail, rally people to help out, etc. --Skud (WMF) (talk) 00:58, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Impact on Wikimedia projects[edit]

Hi @Lfurter:, @Léonie Butler:, @Sarah magnan:, and @MMelvaer:. Thanks so much for submitting your idea to the Inspire Campaign. We currently are doing our eligibility review of open proposals and it would be great to learn more about how your project will impact the Wikimedia projects. I'm not clear from the activities or measures of success if you will be doing editing training, editathons, or adding content related to women and the gender gap to Wikimedia projects. It would be helpful to learn more! Cheers, Alex Wang (WMF) (talk) 00:50, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Related proposal[edit]

You may want to take a look at‘Unknown_Unknowns’, which I see as being a related proposal. --Mssemantics (talk) 17:31, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Project questions[edit]

Hi Lfurter, Léonie Butler, Sarah magnan, and MMelvaer. Thanks again for submitting your proposal. We're excited about your idea and have a few remaining questions.

  1. Please clarify how the events (presentations/discussions) are connected to impacting the diversity of editors and/or content on Wikipedia. The proposal mentions editing training and editathons, and also mentions documenting ideas developed in the events. We are supportive of awareness building and knowledge sharing around gender issues, but can only fund activities that will directly impact the Wikimedia projects. We also want to be sure that any content created on Wikipedia as a result of these events follows Wikipedia's No original research policy.
  2. Do you have an idea of the different themes you're interested in hosting events around?
  3. In order for us to better assess your budget, please let us know how many people you expect at each event.
  4. Has the team notified the existing Wikimedia community in Belgium. If yes, can you provide a link and let us know what type of response and feedback you've received?
  5. Please provide more detailed measures of success. For example, # of participants, # of new editors and active editors retained after X months, # of articles written/improved.
  6. Please provide more details regarding the tools that will be developed in order to ease replication of this type of event.
  7. It would be great to have more details regarding the communications and publication budgets.

Please let us know if you have questions about the above. Looking forward to your responses. Cheers, Alex Wang (WMF) (talk) 21:04, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Aggregated feedback from the committee for Just for the record[edit]

Scoring rubric Score
(A) Impact potential
  • Does it have the potential to increase gender diversity in Wikimedia projects, either in terms of content, contributors, or both?
  • Does it have the potential for online impact?
  • Can it be sustained, scaled, or adapted elsewhere after the grant ends?
(B) Community engagement
  • Does it have a specific target community and plan to engage it often?
  • Does it have community support?
(C) Ability to execute
  • Can the scope be accomplished in the proposed timeframe?
  • Is the budget realistic/efficient ?
  • Do the participants have the necessary skills/experience?
(D) Measures of success
  • Are there both quantitative and qualitative measures of success?
  • Are they realistic?
  • Can they be measured?
Additional comments from the Committee:
  • Has the potential to attract and retain new women editors, and also decrease systemic bias in online content. There is also the potential for new learning in these tried and true projects.
  • Really like this idea, but the proposal is somewhat vague right now.
  • This project seems to have a high potential to increase gender diversity in terms of both content and contributors, with the potential for online impact. Not clear how well it would adapt to other Wikipedia projects..
  • The participants seem to have community support, but would be good to see more engagement with existing Wikipedia communities and projects. For example, would love to see some community notifications.
  • Would be great to know if Wikimedia Belgium is involved in this project.
  • The budget seems a bit high, but the activities proposed are currently quite broad. I'd like to see more clarity and focus and, subsequently, a revised budget.
  • The budget would be more acceptable with a decrease in the publication & organization costs (~66% of the budget)
  • It seems likely that the project's outcome can be measured; however, there probably needs to be more attention paid to how to do that quantitatively.
  • There is some potential in this proposal but I'm not sure whether Wikipedia (given its non point of view, verifiability, and other policies) is the appropriate platform to capture the reflections and discussions coming out of such a series of events. Also am not sure how the project's creation of editing guides will be differ from Art+Feminism's materials or where the 'visual' aspects of the project fit in.
  • Would like to see more concrete measures of success that show a strong commitment to creating content and not being primarily a social event.
  • The Systemic Bias Kit could be useful for this group.
  • Looks like a very interesting initiative, however it would be good to have exact number of edit a thons and activities that will be delivered for the amount demanded, around 10 events is a bit low for the investment. The measures of success are also difficult to evaluate.

Inspire funding decision[edit]

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Congratulations! Your proposal has been selected for a Project and Event Grant through the Inspire Campaign.

WMF has approved partial funding for this project, in accordance with the committee's recommendation. This project is funded with 4,000 EUR

Comments regarding this decision:
Thanks for engaging in the Inspire campaign! We’ll be in touch about setup soon.

Next steps:

  1. You will be contacted to sign a grant agreement.
  2. Review the grant implementation information.
  3. Make any necessary scope adjustments to your proposal page, as discussed with grantmaking staff.
  4. Start work on your project!

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About 2000 € for two small gatherings of 20 persons each isn't especially cheap but I appreciate there were no salaries. If you have produced a handful of (really) active editors that's quite a good thing, however it would help to link them from your report. You can also use toollabs:magnustools/herding_sheep.php.

It's not clear to me if you really used an article talk page as discussion place for the event participants; that would sound like meatpuppeting. Nemo 13:56, 3 June 2016 (UTC)