Grants talk:Project/Wikilover90/Heritage GLAM/Midpoint

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Comments from I JethroBT (WMF)[edit]

Hi Wikilover90, and thanks for your midpoint report on your activities in the Heritage GLAM Project. I am accepting this report with the following comments and questions for your review:

  • I really appreciate the highlights you've provided for the important religious and cultural works that have been successfully digitized as a result of this project so far, such as the first Punjabi encyclopedia, a biography of a leader in the Indian independence movement, as well as fictional works.
  • You've provided very rich documentation of the discussion with and feedback from artists during the Access to Arts Conference. Thanks you for capturing this qualitative information, as it provides a good landscape representing different viewpoints and needs of local artists around the prospect of contributing their works to Wikimedia Commons. I'm glad some time was spent exploring the complexity and implications of compatible licenses on Commons, as this is important for artists to be aware of. It's great to hear that this event alone had 60-70 attendees, and that 30 attending artists were interested in donating their work to Wikimedia Commons after the conference. I'm also glad to hear that the conference was met with a lot of enthusiasm from attendees, and that for at least some artists, it was their first engagement with the Wikimedia movement.
  • Thank you for adding documentation on how to perform batch uploads using VicuñaUploader, as well as your additions to the Learning Pattern for Pattypan. Resources and documentation in the movement around the actual logistics of batch uploading in GLAM are limited, so this guidance is valuable for future Wikimedians interested in digitization work.
  • Determining the copyright status of the Punjabi work has been a challenging task. Due to lack of a centralized repository of Punjabi authors, determining the status of author’s lifespan and the work has been hard.
    • I am glad you are capturing this obstacle in the midpoint report, and appreciate your efforts to work through it. I think many editors have encountered occasional difficulty around copyright status when it comes to determining lifespan issues for a specific work. In this case however, you are dealing with a systemic issue affecting the entire body of literature, which makes the process of selecting appropriate Punjabi works necessarily more complex. What resources or approaches have you used to determine copyright status in this case?
  • At least 15000 pages of books and archives digitized
  • More than were uploaded over 9600 pages on Punjab Wikisource from 43 works.
    • I'm not sure, but is there a figure missing in this statement? Or, is it meant to read More than 9600 pages were uploaded on Punjab Wikisource from 43 works?

I'd also like to see if we could set up a time to chat about some of the challenges you've noted in the midpoint report. I'll reach out to you over e-mail later next week so we can figure out a time to meet-- I'd send one earlier, but I am heading out on vacation tomorrow! :) Thanks again for your midpoint report, and good luck with the remaining contests, workshops, and partnerships you have planned! I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 07:35, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello I JethroBT (WMF)! Thank you for the detailed analysis and comments for the report. This project has been a beautiful journey with so many new developments and I am honored to get an opportunity to work for this important project with the support of Foundation.

  • I am glad you are capturing this obstacle in the midpoint report, and appreciate your efforts to work through it. I think many editors have encountered occasional difficulty around copyright status when it comes to determining lifespan issues for a specific work. In this case however, you are dealing with a systemic issue affecting the entire body of literature, which makes the process of selecting appropriate Punjabi works necessarily more complex. What resources or approaches have you used to determine copyright status in this case?
We have been using different methods to determine the copyright status: Offline directories like Lekhak Sandarbh Kosh (Punjabi Lekhak Kosh by Preetam Singh); online directories, such as, Hathi Trust that contains author info, Punjabi Pedia, which also provides the information about some Punjabi authors, and National Library of India. These sources have been helpful in research work of some authors. Apart from that, we have been using the assistance of literature experts and scholars of Punjabi language to ask around for the author bio info. User Yann, who is a Commons administrator and copyrights expert has been advising us for our queries of copyright laws and the Public Domain works. Due to lack of centralization and insufficient presence of this data, this process has been slow yet really productive in helping us research work for Copyrights of Punjabi works.
Done
  • More than were uploaded over 9600 pages on Punjab Wikisource from 43 works.
I'm not sure, but is there a figure missing in this statement? Or, is it meant to read More than 9600 pages were uploaded on Punjab Wikisource from 43 works?
Yes, this link shows the works we are digitizing and uploading on Punjabi Wikisource and Commons.
  • I'd also like to see if we could set up a time to chat about some of the challenges you've noted in the midpoint report. I'll reach out to you over e-mail later next week so we can figure out a time to meet.
Looking forward to it! Regards Wikilover90 (talk) 14:43, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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