Meta:Babel/Archives/2015-05

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MassMessage bot "user page"

Hello :) I just noticed that the new "global user page" for the bot looks kinda... useless (see example here). Does anybody know how to tweak it? Thank you. --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 20:58, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

A translation admin should check this, this is not a real solution, it's only a quick hack to see what happens:
  1. I've removed a rather obscure "double-includeonly" in the first line, because it had no obvious (for me) purpose.
  2. I've enclosed everything else in "noinclude", after that step the page was empty on other projects.
  3. I've added the same English text without translate-tags as "includeonly" below the translated noinclude (2). After that the English text was shown on your example link.
Be..anyone (talk) 00:20, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
User:MediaWiki message delivery (history) --MZMcBride (talk) 00:27, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, Be..anyone! If someone approves your changes, I'll then add a note to the user page to make readers aware they can find translated versions of the page on Meta. (MZMcBride, ?) Best, --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 09:05, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
I think we should directly show the translations on each wiki's language. I attempted to make it work some days ago but didn't have time to look at it further so left it as it was. Maybe I'll take a look at it later to make it work. Glaisher (talk) 11:02, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Made it finally work. \o/ (preview). Erica, feel free to add that note as the language tag shows links to the translations relative to Meta-Wiki and breaks when viewed on other wikis. Regards, Glaisher (talk) 16:20, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
^.^b If I'm a user elsewhere, and look at this page elsewhere, I'd always see the English version, is that correct? Otherwise Pathoschild would have to update the documentation. –Be..anyone (talk) 21:42, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
@Be..anyone You'll see the version in your interface language (compare sv and ja text). This works because the translations are in translated Meta templates, and the interface language is taken into account when rendering the global user page. (That's why {{int:}} works on global user pages but {{CONTENTLANG}} doesn't.) —Pathoschild 22:55, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
Better example, sv worked immediately, ja reported an error, and after a purge I got an sv header with ja text on ja. I fear I can't test global preferences and translated global user pages at the same time for any remotely reproducable results. –Be..anyone (talk) 23:02, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Does opting-out from bot messages work if people add their user pages to localized, nonexistent categories such as Category:Esclusione dalla ricezione di messaggi massivi? --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 11:49, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

No, it won't work. It depends on the content language of the wiki. Since Meta's content language is English, it will only work for the English category name here. Likewise at French Wikipedia the Italian category name won't work. But it will work even if the category "page" hasn't been created. Glaisher (talk) 11:47, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Then how about not having that category name localized? (That's how I noticed the red link on User:MediaWiki message delivery since my interface language here is in Italian.) --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 11:56, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Well, just because of an issue in that userpage, I don't think we should disable localization but if you think that it should be disabled please file a task. --Glaisher (talk) 12:02, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm not suggesting we shouldn't translate that page, just that the name of the category should stay in English so that it works for everyone. The suggestion to add the user page to an otherwise not working category doesn't make sense to me :) --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 12:17, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #2—2015

19:48, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Apparently <h3>Let's work together</h3> instead of === Let's work together === gets rid of the bogus "edit links" within a newsletter, keeping the anchor + ToC entry as is. How can that be arranged globally for all newsletters posted on Village Pumps or similar pages? –Be..anyone (talk) 22:17, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Sometimes people add feedback right below the newsletter, and I know for sure I use the section links to edit that bit when I reply (as I would have done in this case if those were still real sections), but it's not a huge loss for me. I'm wondering how would I mark these tags for translation before delivery though? Thanks! --Elitre (WMF) (talk) 12:26, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

A new protection level for "editors"?

There seems to be a new user right "Edit pages protected as "Allow only editors" (editeditorprotected)". Where can I find more information about this? Is it a global right or is it for a special wiki? What does the user group "editor" mean specifically? Is it a Flagged Revisions group "editors" who have the right "review"? --Pxos (talk) 12:05, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

What I found are: Phab:T94368 and Gerrit:202380. --Stryn (talk) 12:10, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! So it seems to be only for German Wikipedia (only members of the Flagged Revisions user group "Editors" (Sichter) can edit). When this has been implemented in the main code, other projects that are using Flagged Revisions and thus have a user group similar to "Editors" may apply for this protection if necessary. This is good to know. --Pxos (talk) 14:22, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Granted self temporary adminship

Hello. I granted myself temporary administrator rights to debug a CentralNotice bug. I do not intend to perform any administrator actions, and will remove the right in a few hours at the latest. Thanks for understanding. --Ori Livneh (talk) 03:25, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi Ori Livneh. Thanks for the note and for your help in mantaining CentralNotice! I see that you have already the rights but no log action on Special:Log/rights is stored. I guess you granted the rights yourself directly on the server. If it is not much asking, in light of Meta:Meta–steward_relationship#Logging_of_actions policy, we would like that further rights grantings and removals are logged. We have of course no issues with developers working here and setting rights as they need, but we would like that the process be transparent, otherwise it is hard to track right changes. If you could create a log entry for your rights addition it could be great, the same when you remove your rights. I see that you posess no specific local nor global rights that allows you to use Special:UserRights, maybe Jalexander-WMF could ask to add you in the sysadmin group so you could have access to that interface? Best regards. -- MarcoAurelio 11:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
MarcoAurelio, understood. I did log the action on Wikitech's Server Admin Log, but I understand that that is not an especially admin-facing medium. I will be more mindful in the future. Thank you for your note. --Ori Livneh (talk) 07:59, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Ori, and thanks again for your services. I hope that they can add you or your Ori Livneh (WMF) account to the relevant global groups so your work is facilitated :-) Best regards. -- MarcoAurelio 13:41, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Instructions for creating test wiki?

At Requests for new languages/Wikipedia French Simple 3 I was informed that I needed to create a test wiki for this project. However... I never received instructions for opening it. I can create a test wiki once I know how to do this. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:10, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Please see here, at Wikimedia Incubator. Best regards, -- MarcoAurelio 10:14, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
@MarcoAurelio: Incubator does not accept non-ISO languages as of today. See also incubator:Incubator:Community_Portal/Archive/2012#Simple_world_languages. Vogone (talk) 12:22, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
I have asked Langcom about the scenario here: Talk:Language_committee#Any_chance_of_simple_French_Wikipedia_being_approved.3F WhisperToMe (talk) 19:23, 15 May 2015 (UTC)