Requests for new languages/Wikibooks Ladino

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikibooks Ladino
submitted verification final decision
Applications-system.svg This language has been verified as eligible.
The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval and notify the Board of Trustees for a possible veto.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

A committee member provided the following comment:

Be this marked as eligible per the existence of lad.wikipedia. --MF-W 22:22, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code lad (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Ladino Language name in English
Language name Judeo-Español Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q36196 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Ladino
  • native label (P1705) = Lingua djudeo-espanyola, גﬞודיאו־איספאנייול‎ (Djudeo-espanyol), לאדינו‎ (Ladino)
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language, modern language / West Iberian languages, Jewish languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = lad
  • writing system (P282) = Latin script, Hebrew alphabet, Cyrillic script
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 137,000


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name Vikilivros "Wikibooks" in your language
Project namespace Vikilivros usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace Vikilivros Diskusyon "Wikibooks talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:Wikibooks-logo-lad.svg 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Continent/City "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Proposal[edit]

Ladino is a language that developed along side Spanish until the expulsion of Jews from Spain in 1492. After the expulsion, Ladino evolved separate from Spanish. Although there are similarities between the two, Ladino includes a number of Hebrew words, and the grammar and vocabulary of 15th century Spanish. During World War II, Communities in Eastern Europe were completely destroyed and the number of individuals were greatly reduced. Since then the language has been endangered of dying out. There are a number of religious and secular works were written in Ladino using Hebrew script as well as roman letters. There are a number of organizations around the world that are working for the preservation of Ladino, and setting up Wikibooks in Ladino would be a valuable asset in the preservation and continuation of the language. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Menachem.Moreira (talk)

Discussion[edit]

Arguments in favour[edit]

  1. Symbol support vote.svg Support --Chabi1 (talk) 13:44, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support --Rolando 1208 (talk)

Arguments in opposition[edit]

  1. Oppose: a proposal like that one, that focuses on the number of works in the language and talks about preservation, is an appropriate proposal for a Wikisource, not a Wikibooks.--Prosfilaes (talk) 05:32, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
  2. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Ladino is not suitable for Wikibooks because each book consists of many pages which can be be a long page, if collected. Such a long text samples are not observed in Ladino sources. --Doostdar (talk) 08:37, 17 March 2019 (UTC)