Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Belgorod Dialect

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Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy).

The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved.

  • Check that the project does not already exist (see list).
  • Obtain an ISO 639 code
  • Ensure the requested language is sufficiently unique that it could not exist on a more general wiki.
  • Ensure that there are a sufficient number of native editors of that language to merit an edition in that language.
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code  (SILGlottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Belgorod Dialect Language name in English
Language name Белѓородi Рѣч Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q115632936 - item has currently the following values: Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality LTR Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.

Settings
Project name Вiкiпедiя "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:Belgorod Logo Wikipedia.png This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone Belgorod "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit Phabricator task. It will include everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings. After creating the task, add a link to the comment.

Proposal[edit]

The language exists on the border with Ukraine in the Belgorod Region, I can give confirmation. It is spoken by about 3,000 people in the villages.KittenBroEeev (talk) 17:28, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Discussion[edit]

This isn't even going to be considered if there is no valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code. (See "Language code" is the "Proposal" box above — "belgorod" is not a valid code.) - dcljr (talk) 08:19, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Oppose Same situation as Dcljr, per LPP, this request is a violation of #2 and #3:
    1. The language must ordinarily have a valid ISO 639 1–3 code
    2. The language must be sufficiently unique that it could not coexist on a more general wiki. In most cases, this excludes regional dialects and different written forms of the same language.

--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:02, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

      • It does not have code in ISO, that is the problem(but if it necessary, i can try to add it into ISO through the management(admins?) of ISO standart. About originality of language. I can provide some songs in it and texts and you can compare it to russian or ukrainian and find out they are very differentKittenBroEeev (talk) 14:52, 18 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]