Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Jutish

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Jutish
submitted verification final decision
Discuss the creation of this language project on this page. Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them (see the Language proposal policy).

The language committee needs to verify the language is eligible to be approved.

  • Check that the project does not already exist (see list).
  • Obtain an ISO 639 code
  • Ensure the requested language is sufficiently unique that it could not exist on a more general wiki.
  • Ensure that there are a sufficient number of native editors of that language to merit an edition in that language.
  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code jut (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Jutlandic / Jutish Language name in English
Language name Jysk Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q1340322 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Jutlandic
  • native label (P1705) = Jysk
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = dialect, historical language / Danish
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = jut
  • writing system (P282) = Latin script
  • number of speakers (P1098) =


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name Wikipædi "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace Wikipædi usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace Wikipædi-diskusjon "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Europe/Copenhagen "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings 1. We need a logo with description "WikipædI / Den fri encyklopædi" (>>> File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-jut.png). 2. We decided not to use the namespace of Help; it's pretty enough to have the 'Wikipedia:' namespace, unless 'Help:' will be more helpful in some future. Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Hello community. I propose you to open the new Wikipedia project, written in Jutlandic (Jutish) dialect of the Danish language. It is spoken mostly in Denmark, on the Danish-German border. Although the number of native speakers is unknown (in some sources I saw a number of 100,000 but I didn't remember where), Jutish seems to be a live language/dialect. The wiki is not very active enough just for today, but note that Jutish has a valid language code (ISO 639-3: jut) and almost all (except the only one!) most-used documentation messages have been translated. That's a good start to get a separate wiki in a future.

Look also here to learn more about Jutish. Thanks. --Ghiutun 05:04, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Arguments in favour[edit]

  1. As a proposer. --Ghiutun 05:04, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
  2. As a contributor. --Cahnn (talk) 13:16, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
  3. Support--~MMGJ~ (talk) 13:04, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
    "Votes will be ignored when judging the proposal. Please provide arguments or reasons and be prepared to defend them." (c) --Ghiutun 12:10, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
  4. Support. Jutish dialect has own ISO code and it is differs from Standard Danish. So, Jutish speakers may have own Wikipedia. --Danvintius Bookix (talk) 18:18, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Arguments against[edit]

Other discussion[edit]

To clarify for a future: as I understand the wiki will be written in several dialects, not just in an only one. --Ghiutun 12:34, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

There is a very clear difference between Nordjysk (Northern Juttish) and Sønderjysk (Southern Juttish). Both will hardly understand what the otherone is saying. The northern Jutlanders are more scandinavian in sted of the southern ones who have many German words and grammar. I forsee a problem in this as it will lead to conflicts. Rodejong (talk) 21:04, 18 November 2016 (UTC)