Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Pökoot

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main page Request for a new language edition: Wikipedia Pökoot

submitted verification final decision


This language has been verified as eligible.
The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval and will verify the test project content with a reliable neutral source, such as a professor or expert.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics, recent changes). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Language code pko (SILGlottolog) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Pökoot Language name in English
Language name Pökoot Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q36323 - item has currently the following values: Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Directionality no indication Is the language written from left to right (LTR) or from right to left (RTL)?
Links Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Project name Wikipedia "Wikipedia" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikipedia talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads yes Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo This needs to be an SVG image (instructions for logo creation).
Default project timezone "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example, a Wikisource would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk", "Author", "Author talk".
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit Phabricator task. It will include everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings. After creating the task, add a link to the comment.

The Pokot people have produced world champions in marathon racing. They are widely known, and are instrumental in bringing an end to violence in Northwestern Kenya related to cattle rustling and raiding. A pastoralist consciousness is growing among the tribes, and a Wikipedia that would allow students to describe their world in their own language would enhance their pride in their culture. unsigned by Pastoral 01:15, 30 March 2007.

Arguments in favour[edit]

The project plan is to extend the Pokot entries by enlisting students at Moi University, and at the numerous secondary schools in the El Doret and Kapenguria region as Kenya Data Networks extends Internet coverage over the next six months. In particular, the speech delivered in Pokot in March to a two-thousand person Fifth World Life Science Conference of UNESCO in Lyon is an indication of the vibrancy of this culture.

  • We need to be careful with sub-saharan african languages, because they have often failed, however with five dedicated speakers and more apparently being recruited i think Pokoot will go the way of Zulu and Afrikaans and not the way of say Herero. Lets try.Qrc2006 18:12, 10 August 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Arguments against[edit]

  • This proposal appears to have been brought forward without any native speaker involvement. While no-one disputes that any living language is a viable candidate for a Wikipedia edition, there is no point in filing such requests, when there is no-one in sight to do the actual work of
    • defending the proposal
    • setting up a test project
    • localising the Wiki interface and finally
    • contributing to the proposed language edition. --Johannes Rohr 21:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC) situation looks different now.--Johannes Rohr 12:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Kein aktiv Test Project. Deutschlehrer 14:03, 6 February 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • no active test project (although a handful of pages have been created longer ago), no localisation. Siebrand 11:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Oppose Oppose Where is the Native speaker? Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 06:52, 25 February 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

General discussion[edit]

  • Two weeks ago a group of native Pokot speakers associated with the Tegla Loroupe Peace Foundation all registered as contributors on the Incubator site:

Tegla Loroupe (NP), Ruto wero yottwo (NP), Dr. Krop, (NP), Kochomay (NP).

Today, their names are not visible...the page has changed. Clearly, we need help. We tried to follow directions to create pages in the Incubator, which do not seem to be visible here. By looking at other languages, we discovered we didn't name them with a "Wp/pko/ prefix, so I'm afraid we've lost pages; the search mechanism does not seem to find them, so we will try to copy and paste the ones we can find into the newly named pages. We spent many hours creating the first pages in Pokot, and learning the editor.

Is there a simple guide, in clear language, about the steps to take to create the Incubator Wikipedia, for vote by those managing the project? And what should the first page link to? How do all the entries become visible? How do we generate the count of pages in the language? Is it all by some magic involving the Wp/pko prefix to all page names of pages written in Pokot? What are we missing, here?

These users do not exist on meta-wiki. Please contact them and ask them to register and add themselves to the list of interested contributors. Further, if you set up a test project in the incubator, please use an according category for all pages you create, e.g. Category:Pökoot Wikipedia. You may look at other test projects to see how this works. After all, a successful test project is the most important single prerequisite for a new language edition. If you have trouble understanding the system, please don't hesitate to ask. For starters, you can put your questions here in the General discussion section. --Johannes Rohr 11:38, 25 April 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sorry to abuse this page; I will move to the discussion page, but I don't want to lose you: Here are entries for the N contributors:

So they must be registered somewhere...I know we registered as we sat together in Nairobi.

Clearly, they don't exist under these names in meta-wiki. Anyways, I can only reaffirm that the most important point is having a successful test in the incubator. I have tried to fix your test project a bit: Created incubator:Category:Pökoot Wikipedia, Moved the template from incubator:Wp/pko to the category page and included the existing test pages into the category. (All new pages should be put into this category by adding [[Category:Pökoot Wikipedia]] at the bottom.) Further, I've included your test into the listing on the incubator main page. --Johannes Rohr 11:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks so much...I've hunted down pages and followed your instructions by adding the Category tag. More to come.Pastoral 12:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi there, yes, two your friends have registered at incubator:, but none at [[meta:]], therefore, they do not exist here. If they would like to participate in this discussion, they should register at meta as well. We do not have Unified login yet, so you have to register separately on each wiki. --Johannes Rohr 16:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Localisation update[edit]

There is no observable localisation effort at Betawiki. Thanks, GerardM 06:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Currently 0.00% of the most used MediaWiki messages have been localised. Localisation of these messages is a requirement before your request is finally assessed. This is the recent localisation activity for your language. Thanks,