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Aragonese Wikisource[edit]

main page Request for a new language edition: Wikisource Aragonese 2
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The language is eligible for a project, which means that the subdomain can be created once there is an active community and a localized interface, as described in the language proposal policy. You can discuss the creation of this language project on this page.

Once the criteria are met, the language committee can proceed with the approval and notify the Board of Trustees for a possible veto.

If you think the criteria are met, but the project is still waiting for approval, feel free to notify the committee and ask them to consider its approval.

  • The community needs to develop an active test project; it must remain active until approval (automated statistics). It is generally considered active if the analysis lists at least three active, not-grayed-out editors listed in the sections for the previous few months.
  • The community needs to complete required MediaWiki interface translations in that language (about localization, translatewiki, check completion).
  • The community needs to discuss and complete the settings table below:
What Value Example / Explanation
Proposal
Language code an (SILEthnologue) A valid ISO 639-1 or 639-3 language code, like "fr", "de", "nso", ...
Language name Aragonese Language name in English
Language name aragonés Language name in your language. This will appear in the language list on Special:Preferences, in the interwiki sidebar on other wikis, ...
Language Wikidata item Q8765 - item has currently the following values:
  • en label = Aragonese
  • native label (P1705) = Idioma aragonés, Aragonés
  • instance/subclass (P31/P279) = language, modern language / Iberian Romance languages
  • Wikimedia language code (P424) = an
  • writing system (P282) = Latin script
  • number of speakers (P1098) = 10,000, 20,000


Item about the language at Wikidata. It would normally include the Wikimedia language code, name of the language, etc. Please complete at Wikidata if needed.
Community
You can optionally list your user name if you are an active contributor to the test wiki. Add "N" next to your name if you are a native speaker of this language.
Links Aragonese Wikipedia (Biquipedia), Aragonese Wiktionary (Biquizionario), Academia de l'aragonés, Consello d'a fabla aragonesa, Sociedat de Lingüistica Aragonesa Links to previous requests, or references to external websites or documents.
Settings
Project name "Wikisource" in your language
Project namespace usually the same as the project name
Project talk namespace "Wikisource talk" (the discussion namespace of the project namespace)
Enable uploads no Default is "no". Preferably, files should be uploaded to Commons.
If you want, you can enable local file uploading, either by any user ("yes") or by administrators only ("admin").
Notes: (1) This setting can be changed afterwards. The setting can only be "yes" or "admin" at approval if the test creates an Exemption Doctrine Policy (EDP) first. (2) Files on Commons can be used on all Wikis. (3) Uploading fair-use images is not allowed on Commons (more info). (4) Localisation to your language may be insufficient on Commons.
Optional settings
Project logo File:... 135x135 PNG derivative from a decent SVG image (instructions)
Default project timezone Continent/City "Continent/City", e.g. "Europe/Brussels" or "America/Mexico City" (see list of valid timezones)
Additional namespaces For example for a Wikisource which would need "Page", "Page talk", "Index", "Index talk"
Additional settings Anything else that should be set
submit phabricator task (includes everything automatically, except additional namespaces/settings)

Aragonese (in English, aragonés), is a Romance language now spoken by some 10,000 to 30,000 people in Aragon.

There are a lot of medieval texts written in Aragonese, some of them of such importance as the "Cronica de San Chuan d'a Peña" (The Chronicle of San Juan de la Pena) an official history of the ancient Crown of Aragon written at the time of king Peter IV of Aragon. There are also hundreds of legal documents, poetry, narrative and popular texts.

That is why we want to compile in Wikisource some of these documents in order to make references (interesting grammatical constructions, medieval elements, toponyms, antroponyms and so on) in Aragonese Wikipedia and also provide a database of Aragonese texts for speakers, learners and researchers.

Arguments in favour[edit]

  • Support I agree with the arguments exposed above --Willtron 15:13, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Support Aragonese Wikipedia needs this data base. CHV (O mío Buzón de Correus) 16:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Support I strongly support this long-time need of an Aragonese Wikisource. There are many available texts in the language, some quite unknown to the general audience. Many are medieval but there are also some recent ones. Such a database would certainly be of great interest and help for many people as well as for the Aragonese Wikipedia. --Estrolicador 17:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong Support. Per Estrolicador. Rastrojo 13:56, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
    • Note that this is not a vote, and as such this comment will have no effect on the end result. Jon Harald Søby 14:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Support. I think it would be a great opportunity to transcribe and expose those texts from the middle ages which are a valueable source of information both to Wikipedias contributors and external researchers if they were exposed in a suitable organised format as wikiprojects provide, all of them documents referring to the middle ages Crown of Aragon, and the so-called kingdom, which I think are by now less known than expected. Many of those documents can currently be found in the internet in a sort of a mess being thus much prone to miss or escape the reader's eye. Even more, a language like ours that has the most of its speakers living in a diglossic situation and so being impelled to extinction in a few generations might find very useful having a source like this to give some shape to popular stories, traditional tales and romances that still can be registered and told the word through such tool. These are very few of the reasons that I think an aragonese language Wikisource should be created for. --Lascorz (Tell me) 20:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Support. I'm a user and sysop in the Aragonese Wikipedia, and in my view, this project will be very useful for aragonese speakers, students and scholars researching on modern and medieval Aragonese. There are lots of ancient and modern free texts in Aragonese that are sometimes difficult to find and search in a centralized way. In the case of medieval texts, many people are unaware of their existence. This will make this project very attractive for the aragonese-speaking community. Moreover, Aragonese Wikipedia has had a modest-size but stable and productive community in the last years which is aiming to participate in this new project. This should be considered as a guarantee that this project will be a success. Juanpabl 22:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Support Seems like a possible valuable addition to the current Wikisources around. Siebrand 11:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Support, as fas as I know, there is no equivalent of ar:Wikisource on the internet. Small languages, like this one, are the ones that really need this kind of possibility, big ones have usually many other possibilities. ar:Wikipedia has an active community that gives some security about the activity of the new Wikisource. --Ecelan 17:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

* Support, for an domain, Ecelan, not ar (arabic) ;) Aragonese users are making a good job at oldwikisource (oldwikisource:Category:Aragonés). And seems there will be continuity, and the project will not be abandoned. Lot of work to do. It has special interest for castilian, catalan and occitan wikisource users like me ;) -Aleator (talk) 19:26, 11 April 2008 (UTC) -Aleator (talk) 11:21, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Arguments against[edit]

Other discussion[edit]

  • Localisation of MediaWiki still needs some work. Core localisation is almost complete (98%). WMF extensions still need some work (53%). Siebrand 11:29, 25 March 2008 (UTC)