Talk:Improving Foundation-l
Perhaps some of this would make a good topic for the upcoming open meeting. -- sj · translate · +
A bit lost[edit]
When a user is constantly vandalizing a page, you block the user (and do not lock the page) because the problem can be contained without punishing everyone. You only lock the page if blocking specific problematic users doesn't work.
From my perspective, it seems nearly universally agreed that there are one or two users who haven't been able to "get it" when it comes to posting to foundation-l. Here's my confusion: why haven't the moderators stepped in and put these people on moderation? I don't see a real need to put the entire list on moderation at the moment, but really, I'm utterly lost why the people put in charge have been so remiss here. You know what the problem is and how to address it; man up and take care of it. --MZMcBride 21:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Good point. Nathan T 16:18, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- Sometimes these lines are fuzzy, though; the stats show that the 'problem posters' come and go. It would be helpful to have clear community standards, like the 3RR on Wikipedia. -- phoebe 01:25, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- Except if you were to poll people with the question "Who are the problem posters?" it's clear that almost everyone would list the same three people; we can adopt long term strategies for managing the list to improve signal-to-noise, but we shouldn't focus exclusively on systemic changes when the source of the current problem is both discrete and well known. Nathan T 19:03, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Problem[edit]
Not sure where to put this :)
The problem section imho nicely points at some of the symptoms but not necessarily the underlying problem. Foundation-l as a community is one where there are very few social rules which exist in the real world. Foundation-l runs on who has the loudest voice/most time to email, this is not a problem unique to foundation-l, several online communities face this issue.
If you exhibit the behavior as commonly seen on foundation-l in a real world organization you're considered not a team player, especially in an international context where the level of English used is often too high for the non-native speakers. My suggestion would be to moderate foundation-l based on this, you're allowed to post until you commit an offense, once you do this you're moderated for a certain time period. No warnings, 1-strike and you're out temporarily.
Suggestions for what constitutes good team players: http://www.testcafe.com/team/team.html
Other suggestions could be to look at codes of conduct e.g http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct