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Proposed additions

Creative Commons

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  • Wiki format: [[Creative Commons:]] and [[CC:]]
  • Interwiki link: http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/$1
  • Statistics: None
  • Cross-wiki Link search: [1]
  • Reasons: Over 3 900 links to Creative Commons' licenses, freely licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 --Joku Janne 13:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone read this? No one has answered since 29th December. --Joku Janne 16:52, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
No need for [[Creative Commons:]] It's longer than the current [[commons:]] but [[cc:]] as a shortcut makes great sense.--Doug.(talk contribs) 10:49, 31 October 2009 (UTC) I misunderstood, you're looking for a link to the Creative Commons license pages. Bad idea as it would be likely to confuse others, maybe even some less dense than I.--Doug.(talk contribs) 10:54, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done - I've added this as Creative Commons:. It looks fine to me. --Barras 17:09, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikimedia Labs

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I am not sure about "labs", since it is rather generic and has potential to be a namespace for some wikis. May be "wikilabs". Hillgentleman 11:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
There is more than one labswiki - enlabswiki and delabswiki would be fine by me.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 14:28, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Are separate ones needed for separate languages? With the other projects you can do wikibooks:fr:Accueil for example to get to the French Wikibooks rather than needing a separate interwiki for it. Angela 10:40, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't know if they're set up in the same way normal wikis are (probably not). OTOH, I see zero need for this - the wikis may be temporary, and there's little need to link to them.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 03:10, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done per Mike's last comment on this. Furthermore, it needs to be claryfied if we need for every language an extra link or if it works like the normal interwikis. Re-request the adding if needed. --Barras 17:12, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikimedia Usability

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Was already done by someone else. --Barras 17:14, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Accelerating Future Wiki

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  • Wiki format: afwiki:
  • Interwiki link: http://acceleratingfuture.com/wiki/$1
  • Statistics: [6]
  • Reasons: We plan to use extensively interwiki links on many of the wikis in the Accelerating Future Wiki Network. This wiki is relatively new, and is expected to continue to grow. The wikis in the network are spread across several different hosts, and we expect to continue adding more wikis to the network. For example, FreeBio, which is already in the interwiki map.--PeerInfinity 00:17, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Looks to me like a copy of the Wikipedia i.e. [7] / [8] (without implementation of Copyrights and therefore in violation of the GNU Free Documentation License). --Aff123a 11:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
If you are using these links internally on only your wikis, you should check out mw:Manual:Interwiki for information on modifying a local copy of the Interwiki map. Nakon 02:47, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
At least one of the wiki's writers (and one of the people adding these links to en.wikiedia), en:User:Jeriaska, has received multiple warnings[9][10][11][12][13][14] (most of them erased by the recipient) for adding these and other links. We have other links that have been added by regular editors so I don't think this is a "spam domain" for Wikimedia's projects. Nevertheless, we have no way to monitor a link's usage once it's added to the interwiki map, so I'm nervous about adding this one given the history. --A. B. (talk) 13:28, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done per the comments mentioned above. This could be abused. Furthermore, the wiki looks inactive. --Barras 17:21, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

WebCite

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  • Wiki format: [[wc:]]
  • Interwiki link: http://webcitation.org/$1
  • Cross-wiki link search: 500-odd listed but seems out of date judging by how many are now appearing in enwiki
  • Links from enwiki already: Many hundreds, and growing very rapidly because of the new bot
  • Reasons: A large-scale bot (WebCiteBOT, see request) has begun the task of creating a WebCite archive copy of any external web page referred to as a cited source in articles on the English Wikipedia (and perhaps to be extended to others soon), for good reasons related to stability and linkrot which you can read about at the links above. This means enwiki is starting to build up a huge collection of links to this particular external site, which clog up the already very messy referencing templates. Clearing out extraneous addressing fragments from the mass of wikitext involved in ref formating will make it easier for humans to parse. Implementing this in the interwiki map would avoid having to change the referencing templates to give them a special field for WebCite links, which some might feel privileges a particular archiving website over others. Now I know WebCite isn't a wiki, but this site is beginning to develop a particularly tight integration with the Wikimedia projects that involves vast numbers of links, and the advantages of keeping URL clutter out of the footnoting syntax seem to make this a special case. If we have these kind of abbreviated links to e.g. Slashdot, which isn't a wiki but a normal website - not even a database retrieval kind of site like WebCite is, the case for this one seems much stronger. I've picked "wc" because it's short and sweet, there are already many more links to this website than some of those listed on the interwiki map, and very many more to come, and it doesn't appear to clash with anything in ISO 639. If there is a problem like an ISO 639 clash, I'd suggest "wcite" or "webc" as alternatives. The bot's operator agrees that this would be a useful change. Thanks!

79.64.254.219 11:28, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I am the BOT owner of WebCiteBOT. I would be happy to make this change to my code if/when it becomes active. The BOT is still "going slow" at this time, as I make sure there aren't any remaining bugs before I set it loose en mass. When it is running at full speed, it could easily be adding 3000+ links to webcitation.org a day, so obviously the number of affected links will grow rapidly.
I do have a couple of questions:
1) Would such a change affect all Wikipedias a once - there are definitely plans to expand the project to non-english language Wikipedias at some point:
2) Would there be any technical issue with the "$1" having any equal sign or question mark in it such as "query?id=12345678901234567890"?
Also can someone inform when when/if this goes into effect by leaving either me or WebCteBOT a message on enwiki? Thank you, --ThaddeusB 14:24, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
As a heavy user of WebCitation, I would also support this. Anything that can be done to reduce the length of citations is welcome. Huntster (t@c) 22:23, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
To answer your questions, 1) After the interwiki map is synced, it will be live on all Wikimedia projects and 2) If all of the links will have the "query?id=" tag in it, it can be included in the URL on the map. Nakon 06:55, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done This is not a wiki. --Barras 17:23, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Medpedia.com

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  • Wiki format: [[medpedia:]]
  1. Medpedia is a useful resource for peer-reviewed medical information. It is a wiki for health care professionals and patients. It would be beneficial to be able to quickly interlink the two wikis.
  2. Medpedia is updated by healthcare professionals in large part, and is sponsored by a number of academic medical centers. It is assumed this type of oversight will limit the spam content.
  3. Medpedia is currently under the GFDL
  4. Medpedia is definitely a wiki, and seems to be based on the wikimedia platform.
  5. It's currently in its beta stages, but contains thousands of articles
  6. No malware has yet been detected to my knowledge

The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ellisbjohns (talk • contribs) 15:14, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

What is the requested target link? Nakon 15:40, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Here's more info on the project:
Looks like a good project.
--A. B. (talk) 18:49, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done It looks like a wiki, but I couldn't find recent changes or statistics of the wiki. No lik provided. --Barras 17:27, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Bulbapedia

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  1. Very large fan wiki for the Pokémon fandom, a collaborative project between numerous fan-groups, headed by Bulbagarden, one of the primary websites in the fandom.
  2. At the time of writing, is available in 7 languages through the Encyclopaediae Pokémonis network, namely English (Bulbapedia), German (PokéWiki), Japanese (ポケモンWiki), French (Poképédia), Polish (Wikinezka), Portugese (LANDpedia) and Spanish (Pokéteca).
  3. Currently operates under a mix of the CC Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 2.5 Generic (English, Japanese, Polish and Portugese) and CC Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 Generic (German, French and Spanish) license
  4. This wiki has effectively supplanted Wikipedia's Pokémon info following Wikipedia starting to delete and condense its Pokémon info a couple of years back, with many old Wikipedia editors for the Pokémon Project having since moved to Bulbapedia.
  5. The Wikipedia Pokémon Project has adopted a standard practise of migrating old information from Wikipedia to Bulbapedia where appropriate to assist in Wikipedia's continued consensation and deletion of in-universe information related to Pokémon.
  6. Bulbapedia is demonstratively notable in that it holds a Google Pagerank of 5 despite its narrow focus of Pokémon, and in that as of time of writing its parent Bulbagarden records a ranking of 5000 on Quantcast, and a ranking of 5,366 on Alexa. It should be also noted that these rankings are reflective only of the English version of the site (with respect to the entire internet), and not of the entire Encyclopaediae Pokémonis network.
  7. Bulbapedia is also recognized by Wikipedia as the proper location for articles regarding Pokémon. The Wikipedia Manual of Style page regarding writing about fiction specifically lists Bulbapedia under alternative outlets for fictional universe articles.

Yes check.svg Done Looks fine to me and so I've added this to the interwiki map. --Barras 17:36, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Jpop Stop!

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  • Wiki format: [[jpopstop:]]
  • Interwiki link: http://wiki.jpopstop.com/wiki/$1
  • Statistics: [17]
  • Reason: Semi-official successor to ThePPN (wiki.theppn.org) for Asian pop music. [18] Also see below for proposed removal of ThePPN.

X mark.svg Not done Only a very few links to this page. No need to add this. --Barras 17:58, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

lurkmore.ru

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  • Wiki format: [[lm:]]
  • Interwiki link: http://lurkmore.ru/$1
  • Statistics: http://lurkmore.ru/Special:Statistics (version translated by Google)
  • Cross-wiki Link search: [19]
  • Reason: lurkmore.ru is a unique encyclopedia of the Internet subculture in Russian. It can be used in the Russian Wikipedia as a source of additional information about Internet memes. Moreover, it's a place where could be transfered articles about Internet memes that are considered not important enough for Wikipedia.
Looks fine to me. If no one obejcts in the next days, I'll add it. --Barras 15:30, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done, but as lurkmore:, because lm: could become a conflict with normal interwikis. --Barras 17:54, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

http://flickr.com/photo.gne

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  • Wiki format: Flickr:
  • Interwiki link: http://flickr.com/photo.gne?id=$1
  • Statistics: (none, not a wiki)
  • Reasons: A large number of images on Wikimedia Commons are from Flickr. I think this would be quite useful at Commons. --Ixfd64 20:15, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm not 100% sure if this kind of links belong to this page. Surely it would be good for commons, but is it allowed? --Barras 16:22, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Well, we already have [[FlickrUser:]], which links to Flickr profiles. In fact, the interwiki map contains several links to several other sites that are not wikis (e.g., Acronym Finder). Was [[FlickrUser:]] grandfathered (i.e., added before the "wikis only" rule was added) or something? --Ixfd64 18:39, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

X mark.svg Not done - not a wiki. --Barras 17:43, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Proposed removals

lyricwiki

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This wiki was proposed for addition in November 2006 and rejected for legal concerns, before being added in December of 2007. However, as they note themselves, here, they no longer attempt to pay royalties but rather shelter behind DMCA: "Fortunately we’re protected by the DMCA. After trying unsuccessfully for a long time to pay royalties to anyone who would take them in the music industry, we realized we are protected. We have registered an official DMCA agent, so if an artist wishes to have their lyrics removed, they just need to send a request. We have not had a single request sent to us." Copyright concerns not only persist, but have apparently worsened. (Context: I'm an admin at english language Wikipedia busily removing links to this website from our articles. My first edit here; pardon me, please, if I've misformatted anything. --Moonriddengirl 22:28, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I concur with and endorse this request. The site clearly disregards copyrights and should, if anything, be blacklisted. Stifle 14:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Absolutely. What will it take to get something to happen on this? Clearly one comment a month isn't doing much.Kww 16:51, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Endorse this. The site does carry a variety of public domain lyrics or freely licensed lyrics (these are becoming increasingly common), but ideally we want to link to resources under our control by uploading any such lyrics to Wikisource, so that they don't break all our links when the record industry takes them out. :-P Dcoetzee 03:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Strongly endorse removal, and consider for blacklisting. Triplestop 18:41, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


Yes check.svg Done - removed. Per this comments and per this website is linking to a wikia wiki which doesn't need an extra interwiki on this interwiki map. --Barras 18:31, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikia links

As all Wikia wikis can be linked to via [[Wikia:Projectname:Article name]], shouldn't all the Wikia links be removed? There's about 10 in total.--Otterathome 14:43, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so; not only would this break a slew of links, but some of the wikis are plenty large to warrant their own interwiki entry (I'm thinking chiefly of Wookieepedia). EVula // talk // // 17:04, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
I think large isn't necessarily the same as importance. We ought to look at how many times such sites are actually linked to, and in what capacity. Majorly talk 21:19, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Remove per the perception of self-dealing of a sitting WMF Board member, and the head of the Advisory Board. -- Thekohser 02:05, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
As much as the discussion on Uncyclopedia appears to be the work of one user with an agenda to push, I'm a little unsure about the wider question of whether we should be linking to Wikia at all. That has received outside attention from online media, due to the self-dealing issues perceived and widely reported since at least 2007. Might be worth taking a look at Wikipedia: Special Treatment for Wikia and some other Wikis, Nik Cubrilovic, TechCrunch, April 28, 2007 and related discussion, including en:Template talk:Wikia#External_instead_of_interwiki_links locally. The effect of making [[wikia: an internal link while wikis of similar calibre hosted elsewhere are forced onto external links is to artificially manipulate page rankings in search engines (the external link gets the 'no-follow' tag, the [[wikia: prefix does not). This is being perceived and widely reported as the use of Wikipedia resources to promote for-profit Wikia, an issue that is a perceived conflict of interest because of the overlap between founders and persons in other key positions between the two organisations. The resources of a donation-funded non-profit encyclopedia should not be used to selectively promote one for-profit commercial concern in this manner. Perhaps both the interwiki and the en:template:Wikia should be deleted? --66.102.80.212 12:01, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

If anykind of removal is wished, so please provide directly which prefix and site name. I'm not going to sear for every wikia link the whole (and not small page). Therefore, X mark.svg Not done --Barras 18:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Shakti

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Hi ! We have a problem on fr-wikipedia because of Shakti:, an interwiki prefix that seems to refer to an obsolete link. Because of that, we can't create the movie title : Shakti: The Power (Shakti (2002 film) on en), according to the typographic conventions. Does anybody have a solution to this problem ? Could this prefix be removed if unused ?

Regards Stef48 -- 08:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

P.S. Shakti is not a language but a religious and philisophical concept.

Could anybody answer this request, please ? Shakti: refers to a dead link and we'd need it to be removed. Thanks. --Voxhominis 21:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC) PS : Previous request here.

Yes check.svg Done - I've removed the link, because it's a deadlink. Even it is long time ago (this request), I hope it helps. --Barras 12:27, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

ThePPN

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Site was lost to server crash. Recovery effort was unsuccessful. [20] Has been semi-officially replaced by Jpop Stop; see above for proposed addition.

Notes:New ThePPN Address -> http://ppn.wikia.com/wiki/$1 --Mikipedia 11:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)


Yes check.svg Done - I've removed the link. For wikia we don't need to add an extra link, just use [[Wikia:Projectname:Article name]]. --Barras 12:33, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Requests for updates

Creatures Wiki

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Could someone update CreaturesWiki to go to http://creatureswiki.net/wiki/$1? We're moving onto this new domain shortly - it will work as a redirect until then. GreenReaper 04:21, 16 October 2009 (UTC)


Seems to be already done. --Barras 18:44, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Troubleshooting

Bug 16356 - broken interwikiprefix

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The interwiki links on this site must be with underline instead of a blank. Any letter makes problem: Ĉej: is defined (live list), but does not work. Thanks for correcting them. --Der Umherirrende 17:09, 29 May 2009 (UTC)


No input, nothing done here. --Barras 18:06, 18 November 2009 (UTC)