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The associated page is used by the MediaWiki software to add and remove interwiki link prefixes (such as [[w:blah]] to "blah" on Wikipedia). Any Meta-Wiki administrator can edit the interwiki map. It is synced to the Wikimedia cluster every few weeks. Please post comments to the appropriate section (Proposed additions, Proposed removals, Requests for updates, Troubleshooting, or Other discussions); read the boxes at the top of each for an explanation. Completed requests are moved to the archives.
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Proposed additions[edit]

Symbol comment vote.svg The Interwiki Map exists to allow a more efficient syntax for linking between wikis, and thus promote the cooperation and proliferation of wikis and free content.

This section is for proposing a new interwiki link prefix. Interwiki prefixes should be reserved for websites that would be useful on a significant number of pages ({{LinkSummary}} can help). Websites useful only to a few pages should be linked to with the usual external link syntax. Please don't propose additions of sites with too few pages or that contain copyright infringing content, such as YouTube. As a guide, sites considered for inclusion should probably

  1. provide clear and relevant use to the Wikimedia projects, including the purpose of the site
  2. be trusted not to encourage spam links being added to the Wikimedia projects
  3. be free content (under a Commons-acceptable license)
  4. be a wiki
  5. have reasonable amounts of content
  6. not contain malware

Add new entries at the bottom of the section. When requesting a new prefix, please explain why it would be useful keeping the above in mind. Admins, please allow consensus to form (or at least no objections to be raised over a period of a few days) before adding new entries, as once added they are hard to remove from the many copies around the world.

Requests for removal should be submitted on the talk page in the removals section and will be decided on by a Meta admin.

GitHub[edit]



GitHub is a site for hosting free, open-source software (FOSS). It's often linked on MediaWiki.org, and Wikimedia hosts their mirrors on GitHub as well. SamanthaNguyen (talk) 06:27, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

  1. Firstly we already have git: for local use that ends up at phabricator. Might that be confused and seen as problematic?
  2. @MER-C: do you have an opinion on this request? Noting that we seem to have about 530 links to github.com from the major wikis.
 — billinghurst sDrewth 09:19, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

UTRS[edit]



https://utrs.wmflabs.org/appeal.php?id={{{1}}}

Similar to otrs: and ticket:. See also phab:T154858. DatGuy (talk) 22:42, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

What is the purpose of requiring links? What level of usage, and has the hierarchy of UTRS expressed an opinion and desire for the linking. It is not directly analagous with OTRS/ticket as these are permanent points to permissions and discussions that are required to be referenced forever after by all wikis. UTRS is a one wiki tool.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:13, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
There are 800 transclusions of the {{utrs}} template. See here for 'confirmation.' DatGuy (talk) 18:29, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Adding this as w:en:special:permalink/758899587 for utrs admin confirmation.  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:42, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
UTRS isn't just used on one wiki, ptwiki also is either using or looking to use it, and from what I know there are plans to extend use beyond that. I see no downside to a network-wide interwiki link. – Ajraddatz (talk) 21:57, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

ICANN Wiki[edit]



link: http://icannwiki.com/index.php/$1 prefix:icannwiki:

ICANNWiki, the independent collaborative resource for the ICANN community.

  • There is Top Level Domain explosion. WikiPedia do not allow creating pages for every top level domain.
  • This wiki contains very detailed information about all the generic top level domains.
  • Has many other topics related with the top level domains, such as DNSSEC.
  • Some of ICANNWiki sponsors are Google, VeriSign, ICANN, Donuts, Sedo, Dyn, DotAfrica, Radix.
Wikipedia has allowed pages about every top-level domain. There are hundreds of country-level domains, for instance. Not sure what "sponsors" have to do with anything, as we are not for sale? K7L (talk) 17:02, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
K7L, check out w:Template:Generic_top-level_domains, I have created some pages like w:.ninja etc, they have all been proposed for deletion or they were redirected. Plus, I have been blocked for a week for mass creating new pages (they claimed that for example .ninja is not popular thus cannot be created). Okay, if this is the case let's at least link them to ICANN Wiki. --Kirov Airship (talk) 17:08, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Oppose Oppose, massive spamming for new TLDs on enwiki, actually a case for the spamblock instead of the interwiki list. –Be..anyone (talk) 10:57, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
You mean this site has been spammed as an external link? This, that and the other (talk) 11:03, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes, some rather poor enwiki new TLD stubs with a link to this site as everything remotely resembling a notable 3rd party reference (not counting ICANN itself as 3rd party.) Not their fault, they are also victims of the new TLD flood. –Be..anyone (talk) 21:36, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
As a general comment, this wiki does seem very detailed, particularly in regards to gTLDs, but I also wonder about how serious it is. It seems to include a cartoon drawing of each individual alongside their photo, which is really bizarre. Does anyone know if it is an official ICANN-sanctioned project? It claims to be, but I wonder... This, that and the other (talk) 11:08, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Having looked more closely, it does seem to be a perfectly serious wiki - the "caricatures" just being a part of its community identity - and I would Support Support this addition. The fact that the site was spammed isn't necessarily the fault of the wiki operators, and the potential for legitimate use is clear. This, that and the other (talk) 14:10, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

OmegaWiki[edit]



link: http://www.omegawiki.org/Expression:$1

I'm pretty surprised that I didn't see this here already: OmegaWiki is a good and extensive non-WMF wiki with incoming links. I think we should support it thought the map. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:06, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Proposed removals[edit]

Symbol comment vote.svg This section is for proposing that a prefix be disabled; please add new entries at the bottom of the section. Remember to explain why it should be disabled, particularly in view of the difficulty involved in correcting any use of the prefix (to generate a list of pages to fix: toollabs:pirsquared/iw.php). Completed requests are marked with {{done}} or {{not done}} and moved to the archives.


Remove vd:[edit]

I propose to remove vd: as it's causing that the entire Catalan Wikiquote which uses VD as shortcut and namespace aliases breaks. PiRs' tool above says no uses, but it's a bit broken so I'd not fully trust its results. —MarcoAurelio 19:31, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

It was recently added and most IW linking I see is not intended to be. This interwiki link is conflicting several instances. —MarcoAurelio 10:51, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
@Astirmays and Matiia: for comment.

Is this something that just needs to be altered to another shortcut, or complete removal?  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:14, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

With vikidia: already in the map I don't see a reason why we need a second IWL. —MarcoAurelio 14:55, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm okay with its removal. Matiia (talk) 17:21, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Well, we are beginning to use it to Vikidia, so I'm not for its removal but... Astirmays (talk) 21:39, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Removed RemovedMarcoAurelio 14:50, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Technical social suggestion to revert the removal.I'd suggest to put it back to allow for more discussion, and as the interwiki map can't be updated before January (code freeze).
We generally observe a principle of parity before code in repo / code deployed in server, and this table is the source of wmf-config/interwiki.php, and as such, should reflect the current server content.
Notifications of persons who left a comment on Phabricator.' @Linedwell and Unapersona: You participated to the Phabricator discussions, and as such perhaps have an opinion.
My opinion. On Phabricator, in the tasks where Marco asked the same thing, the reception was mixed.
I understand the VD: namespace was an issue, but we ran a script to removed these shorcuts.
So I don't think we should lost an interwiki only because ONE wiki, ca.wikiquote, uses *12* shorcuts (with a potential for more in ca. projects). The vd: prefix has potential to link to thousands of pages if a wiki wishes to offer links to these articles, not only a few pages.
Furthermore, these VD: aliases are so rarely used on ca.wikiquote the vd: interwiki has been added by Matiia the 30 April 2016‎, deployed in production May 3, but VD: alias issue was only reported recently.
The 6 months delay needed to find the issue tends to support the fact VD: aliases aren't a vital emergency for ca.wikiquote.
--Dereckson (talk) 20:44, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
As I am notified, I give my opinion here too. I can't understand how a local alias (used for only 12 pages on a single project) can be a valid reason to remove an interwiki link from ALL the interwiki maps. Linedwell (talk) 20:54, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Sure, let's disrupt a project that created their shortcuts in good faith as did every other ones just because they're small. Is that hard to use vikidia: or, say, vkd: instead? —MarcoAurelio 21:03, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
I disagree. Interwikis are to help projects, not to disrupt them, and vd: is certainly disrupting ca.wikiquote, a WMF project, in favor of an external website which can use a whole variety of other interwiki codes. Besides, it's not also disrupting ca.wikiquote, but several other places. —MarcoAurelio 20:49, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
I totally agree with MarcoAurelio. Vikidia and Catalan Wikiquote are very different projects, which have a very different objective. Vikidia interwikis are not used on Catalan Wikiquote at all, and I think I can safely say that they will never be used (and if we needed it we could use vikidia:, which is already enabled). I can count around 15 shortcuts which have been renamed to VQ: and a lot more that have been renamed to VD-. I think that the interwiki vd: should be removed at least on Catalan Wikiquote and other wikis with similar problems; I don't understand why are you keeping an interwiki to an unrelated wiki when it has a clear conflict with an official WMF project. For the record, the issue was already discussed on Catalan Wikipedia four months ago, and the active Wikiquote community of that time decided to rename the shortcut instead of filing a task on Phabricator because a user told them that it would probably be dismissed (as you can see in the linked thread). --Unapersona (talk) 22:28, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Comment Comment is this matter considered resolved?  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:31, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Requests for updates[edit]

Symbol comment vote.svg This section is for requesting update for an existing interwiki. This could be needed if your site's URL has changed. Please add new entries at the bottom of the section.

Troubleshooting[edit]

Symbol comment vote.svg This section is for comments related to problems or corrections with the interwiki map (such as incorrect syntax or entries not functioning). This is not the section to request that a prefix be disabled (see Proposed removals above).

Other discussions[edit]

RFC: Overhaul Interwiki map, unify with Sites and WikiMap[edit]

An ongoing RFC at Phabricator regarding the interwiki map is taking place. Please see phab:T113034. —MarcoAurelio 08:55, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

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