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Latest comment: 28 days ago by Pppery in topic Proposed removals
The interwiki map is used by the MediaWiki software to add, remove or update interwiki link prefixes (such as [[w:blah]] to "blah" on Wikipedia). Any Meta-Wiki administrator can edit the interwiki map at Interwiki map/list. It is synced to the Wikimedia cluster upon request through the completion of a Phabricator ticket. Please post comments to the appropriate section (Proposed additions, Proposed removals, Requests for updates, Troubleshooting, or Other discussions); read the boxes at the top of each for an explanation. Completed requests are moved to the archives.

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Proposed additions

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Wikimedia API Portal

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Interwiki request: new

Status:    On hold

The Wikimedia API Portal is a wiki that documents various APIs around Wikimedia projects. It seems to make sense to not display them as external links. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Denny (talk) 18:45, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I suggest wmapi. Nardog (talk) 12:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Would recommend waiting for the outcome of T358303 first. * Pppery * it has begun 00:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Single-letter prefix for Wiktionary

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Interwiki request: new

Status:    In progress

Same as the above. Possible choices:

NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 04:13, 15 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

I object to this for the same reason as the section above - all of these conflict with too many other things to be worth the chaos now to solve a problem that has been around for ages with no strong cry to solve. If you must do this "i", "o", and "r" are least-bad (I and R have namespace prefix uses on special wikis but that doesn't matter because namespace prefixes conflicting with interwikis are a supported concept) * Pppery * it has begun 19:08, 20 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Proposed removals

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git

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Interwiki request: remove

Status:    In progress

Conflicts with language code. See phab:T360792. Has 700 uses so cleanup would be a pain, and this is a very theoretical issue and probably not going to come up, so feel free to decline this, but putting it here for the record. * Pppery * it has begun 04:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I would be okay leaving it in place for now, but with the understanding that if a git language project materializes, developers are on the hook of migrating even more links in the future. Legoktm (talk) 04:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
On the other hand it's better practice to link to "gerrit:" anyway now that Wikimedia Gitlab et. al are a thing.
Still, there's no urgency here (as you can see from the fact that I let this lapse for six months without action), and this was largely a procedural filing, so I'm fine with leaving as is for now. * Pppery * it has begun 04:27, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I propose introducing a replacement like gitiles: and at least initiating a migration. Of course there is no urgency so it does not have to proceed posthaste or anything but then we can at least move this to in progress. —Uzume (talk) 14:46, 16 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
I've added the gitiles: prefix pointing to the same place as "Git" since that seems uncontrobersial (especially since we have GitLab now so "git:" is ambiguous). I'm not going to spend any of my own effort migrating; others may do as they see fit. * Pppery * it has begun 01:15, 13 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

zum

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Interwiki request: remove

Status:    In progress
  • related Wikidata item:

Conflicts with language code. See phab:T360792. Has 100 uses so cleanup would be a pain, and this is a very theoretical issue and probably not going to come up, so feel free to decline this, but putting it here for the record. * Pppery * it has begun 04:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

It's highly unlikely I will take the initiative here unless actual effort toward creating a Kumzari Wikipedia happens. If someone else does the cleanup they could convince me to remove. * Pppery * it has begun 22:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

twl

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Interwiki request: remove

Status:    In progress
  • related Wikidata item:

Conflicts with language code. See phab:T360792. Surprisingly few uses so suggest renaming to something longer. * Pppery * it has begun 04:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

See Talk:The Wikipedia Library#Rename twl interwiki. * Pppery * it has begun 21:14, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Pppery I don't mind this being updated to something else, it seems sensible to avoid language codes. Do you have any suggestions for a new prefix? wikipedialibrary: perhaps? Not sure if that would be too long. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
The English Wikipedia page en:Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library lists the following shortcuts. w:WP:TWL, w:WP:LIB, w:WP:LIBRARY, w:WP:WIKILIB. "twl" is the current prefix. "Lib" has the same problem (w:Likum language). "Library" probably doesn't work because there are two other libraries on the interwiki map. That leaves only "wikilib" which is awkward and rarely used. Another possibility, in addition to that and the full name, is "wplibrary". * Pppery * it has begun 15:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Pppery wplibrary sounds good to me :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 16:09, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I've added "wplibrary" as a prefix, while leaving "twl". I'll copy over all uses and remove it the next interwiki update cycle (which probably won't be for a while). * Pppery * it has begun 04:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Cleaned up a bunch of uses. Although now that I think about it it might make more sense to just leave both until a Shona Wikipedia actually approaches happening - incubator:wp/twl doesn't exist and the language isn't even enabled on translatewiki. * Pppery * it has begun 22:27, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Requests for updates

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Wikimedia Quality

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Interwiki request: Redirect..?

Status:    In progress

I noticed this as an entry at w:Help:Interwiki linking#Interwiki linking from and within Wikimedia, it's a closed wiki, all it gives you is a page with a manual redirect. Whatever way the {{Interwiki request}} template parses sort-of-kinda-internal URLs, it hates this one.

It has a "longform" IW link - [[quality:]]

Following the most relevant option at the redirect you end up at Wikiquality/Portal (actually located here on meta-wiki), which is itself a vestigial page with the {{historical}} template applied.

So, obviously not important, but maybe the target should be changed to save people the extra click.

One cookie (talk) 20:14, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why would we need a shorthand to link to a closed wiki that has basically no content? —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:25, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
We don't, but that is what we have already. It exists, I'm not requesting that it be created.
There's basically no content at the Special:AllPages link for the wiki because "this wiki has been closed and its content has been moved to meta.wikimedia.org". Some of the content you're looking for is at the correct address for the shortcut's target, meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiquality/Portal - but, since most of the content created for the project was as articles for a mailing list, the bulk of it is at listarchive:list/wikiquality-l@lists.wikimedia.org/latest.
The project was seen as important, enough so that it was given a shortcut link, and its link was used as one of the 29 examples of prefix codes included at w:Help:Interwiki linking, so what we currently do actually have is a shorthand link which: has been used, can be found on pages of projects which are not closed and which will be seen by users, was functional when it was used, is now broken and points to a dead page.
The shortcut should either be fixed or removed from that list, but removing it from that list won't remove it from anywhere anyone's ever used it, where it will remain an annoying broken link! One cookie (talk) 14:38, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
"The shortcut should either be fixed or removed from that list". 100% agreed. I'd lean toward remove, as the quality wiki was closed a long time ago and I doubt there are any/many links, but that can be checked. Thorough response: thanks. —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:54, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

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I've fixed the template above. Don't feel comfortable removing this because we currently have a convention that each Wikimedia project has an interwiki link, which I don't want to break. I.e aa: exists too despite pointing nowhere. * Pppery * it has begun 23:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

dict, dictionary

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dict • global-search dictionary • global-search

Currently points to a third-party dictionary. I just cleaned up several uses on enwiki that clearly intended to point to Wiktionary instead, and I would suggest these interwikis be updated in the same way to reduce confusion. * Pppery * it has begun 02:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Dictionary is also in the default interwiki map for new wikis (https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/master/maintenance/interwiki.list). * Pppery * it has begun 18:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
I updated these to HTTPS in the mean time. * Pppery * it has begun 17:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Etherpad

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Interwiki request: update

Status:    In progress

Currently, the formatter URL is 'https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/$1'. Each time this interwiki link is used, users need to manually add the '/p/' prefix to make it work correctly. It would be helpful to update the formatter URL to include this prefix, so users don’t have to add it manually each time. As of now, out of 5,582 pages, 4,948 are already using the correct prefix..-❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee ❚❙❚❙❙ 08:05, 8 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hence if I were to change this all 4,948 of those links would stop working, right? * Pppery * it has begun 16:27, 13 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Yes @Pppery. Technically it will. But it can be easily get fixed with a bot right.- ❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee ❚❙❚❙❙ 16:39, 13 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Running a bot to fix thousands of pages on hundreds of different wikis is not easy in my book. * Pppery * it has begun 16:54, 13 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
It would surely make sense to change this, however, it needs someone to run a bot fixing all links. -Barras talk 23:40, 13 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
So when I checked last the majority of the links are on meta, mediawiki, wikidata, commons and dewiki (more than 100). So If that's the case I can request the permisson to run my bot (GnoeeeBot) to fix this.- ❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee ❚❙❚❙❙ 06:11, 14 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
Follow up to this, I have started the discussion for the bot flag at here.- ❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee ❚❙❚❙❙ 17:06, 23 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Pppery. I plan to run my bot to update the existing Etherpad interwiki links so they continue working correctly after the formatter URL change. Before I start, I’d like to hear your advice on the best timing for this—should I wait until the formatter URL is updated, or begin preparing the fixes in advance? ❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee ❚❙❚❙❙ 11:34, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
My thinking is that it would be best for the bot to be seen as fixing rather than breaking links at the time, otherwise people are likely to revert it. Which I was going to do now (subject to the usual fact that interwiki map updates need a config change deploy), but then I discovered phab:T402554. * Pppery * it has begun 16:10, 21 August 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Gnoeee if these are going to be fixed, can the http:// be changed to https:// at the same time? — xaosflux Talk 12:51, 26 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
That's an error in the request itself. The current formatter URL at Interwiki_map/list is already HTTPS. * Pppery * it has begun 14:35, 26 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
I have updated the request.-❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee ❚❙❚❙❙ 19:09, 26 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

Troubleshooting

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Other discussions

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